I think I am going back to good ol' Marshall 412 cabs...

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D-Rock":q2mbyqso said:
Regardless, Killertone can make any Marshall cab have KILLER TONE!
Any Marshall cab? What about a MG412A :lol: :LOL: Any well built cab can give you killertones. I sadly played a MG cab like 5 yrs ago as my only experience with Marshall cabs. Poopy brown tone. I recently tried out a buddies late 70's Marshall with 25 GB's and it RIPS :rock: He's got a couple and I'm trying to talk him into selling me one.
 
nevusofota":1gwzcw28 said:
All cabs sound the same to the FOH when mic'ed.
It's good to have a cab that sits in the right EQ spectrum for stage sound. Yeah after that they all sound pretty much the same out front.
 
Its interesting. I have the old VHT Fatbottom cab, from when Fryette owned VHT. I bought it with interest of a tighter sound. I haven't loaded it with v30s yet. I have a Marshall 1960VB cab as well, and it sounds pretty good. I'm always looking to improve the tone, as well as my skill.

KillerTone, you should do a comparison clip of the Marshall, and the Fryette. :poke: That would be interesting.
 
tripstan":2zbhhmqj said:
D-Rock":2zbhhmqj said:
Regardless, Killertone can make any Marshall cab have KILLER TONE!
Any Marshall cab? What about a MG412A :lol: :LOL: Any well built cab can give you killertones. I sadly played a MG cab like 5 yrs ago as my only experience with Marshall cabs. Poopy brown tone. I recently tried out a buddies late 70's Marshall with 25 GB's and it RIPS :rock: He's got a couple and I'm trying to talk him into selling me one.
Ummm....you must not have heard Killertones clips. He could make a wet paper bag sound metal.
 
I've used a number of cabs although never through a Mesa, Orange or Splawn cab - would love to one day.

My favourite cabs are the Marshall 1960BV from 1984 and Cornford RK 4x12 - both have V30's and both sound spot on for what I want.
 
D-Rock":1uw5djua said:
FL'd cabs definitely have a chirpy, weird highend. Not really overkill or an abundance of highend, just...not a proper high end.
Marshall cabs have a nice...flex to their sound and response. Sweet is a good word. I like em too.

In the words of the late Ed McMahon, "you are correct sir !"
 
I am interested in going to Marshall 412 cabs. How are the Marshall 1960BHW cabs with the Heritage G12H30s?
 
metalmaniac93":1e98vhhl said:
I am interested in going to Marshall 412 cabs. How are the Marshall 1960BHW cabs with the Heritage G12H30s?

i love mine. it's thick and meaty...mine is not fully broken in just yet. I got mine for a great price.
 
People so often talk about the 1960BV and AV cabs today like they're crap. But then they talk about the Silver Jubilee cabs and other late 80s cabs with Vintage 30s like they're great.

But there is no difference between a new one and an old one except broken in speakers right?

They went to mdf backs in the 70s, but has anything else changed since the 80s? The new ones still have birch ply sides and baffle, right?
 
cnote":vx0n406m said:
People so often talk about the 1960BV and AV cabs today like they're crap. But then they talk about the Silver Jubilee cabs and other late 80s cabs with Vintage 30s like they're great.

But there is no difference between a new one and an old one except broken in speakers right?

They went to mdf backs in the 70s, but has anything else changed since the 80s? The new ones still have birch ply sides and baffle, right?

The new ones do seem lighter than older ones. And I think the backs are particle board instead of mdf, though I'm not sure how much that would amount to.
 
richedie":1pyj3rer said:
I don't like Marshall cabs. My Stone Age 212 and Bogner 212 both sounded better than either my Marshall 1960 a or 1960b. Favorite 412 cabs are Bogner and Splawn. Smoother, richer and more full than Marshalls, unless maybe you find one from the 70s.


couldnt agree with you more. The OS Bogner 2X12 sounds better/bigger then a Marshall cab IMO and the Bogner 4X12 wheat with V30s....

:worship:
 
tried and true. The history of rock n roll, you cant go wrong.

That said, I have been using for quite awhile my UberKab and a Splawn with almost identical black/silver piping.
 
Question about the older Marshall cabs (crica '75)...are the handles the same size as the newer ones? I might pull the trigger on a vintage cab that happens to be missing one of the handles. Could I simply yank one off an extra Marshall 1960a to replace it? Thanks.
 
I like Marshall cabs. My Bogner Uberkab and OS2X12s may have sounded "better", but there's nothing wrong with Marshalls and a good quality tube head will generally sound great through a bone stock Marshall 1960 cab.
 
RockNRun":2b1wso8q said:
Question about the older Marshall cabs (crica '75)...are the handles the same size as the newer ones? I might pull the trigger on a vintage cab that happens to be missing one of the handles. Could I simply yank one off an extra Marshall 1960a to replace it? Thanks.

According to Jim they are the same size. People rave about the scumback metal handles, I wish he offered them for my Marshall 212... http://www.scumbackspeakers.com/handles.html
 
blackba":ku547har said:
RockNRun":ku547har said:
Question about the older Marshall cabs (crica '75)...are the handles the same size as the newer ones? I might pull the trigger on a vintage cab that happens to be missing one of the handles. Could I simply yank one off an extra Marshall 1960a to replace it? Thanks.

According to Jim they are the same size. People rave about the scumback metal handles, I wish he offered them for my Marshall 212... http://www.scumbackspeakers.com/handles.html
HEY GREAT! Thanks for that help. :)
 
I'd like to go the 1960 slant cab route. Been debating some custom offerings like mojo or other but at the end of the day, getting a 1960 cab used for 4-500$ (or cheaper sometimes) WITH speakers, seems like you come out ahead. Two questions for you veteran marshall cab users though. Are you ever satisfied with the G12t75's once broken in so much that you leave two of them in an X pattern with another speaker? I guess there are rules for matching speakers but i was maybe going to try two lynchbacks in with two g12T-75's. Also, are the cabs wired with 8 ohm speakers or 16 ohm in most cases? (the lynchbacks being only 8 ohm) Finally, any word on those g12-70 speakers? My quick search seamed to indicate that these sound like shit. They seem to be found in a lot of the 1960 cabs with the JCM800 label and a few have popped up locally for reasonable prices..
 
Kapo_Polenton":9pghj5ts said:
I'd like to go the 1960 slant cab route. Been debating some custom offerings like mojo or other but at the end of the day, getting a 1960 cab used for 4-500$ (or cheaper sometimes) WITH speakers, seems like you come out ahead. Two questions for you veteran marshall cab users though. Are you ever satisfied with the G12t75's once broken in so much that you leave two of them in an X pattern with another speaker? I guess there are rules for matching speakers but i was maybe going to try two lynchbacks in with two g12T-75's. Also, are the cabs wired with 8 ohm speakers or 16 ohm in most cases? (the lynchbacks being only 8 ohm) Finally, any word on those g12-70 speakers? My quick search seamed to indicate that these sound like shit. They seem to be found in a lot of the 1960 cabs with the JCM800 label and a few have popped up locally for reasonable prices..
The 1960's will have 16 ohm speakers.
I always prefered mixing the T75's with V30's in an X.
Never played the 70's.
 
$hitty, so I am stuck seeing as all my other speakers are 8 ohm for mixing. Have 2 pairs and a weber 8 ohm. I think I might just need an empty cab!
 
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