I'm giving away recording gear leading up to NAMM...

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fluff191":38mzohbd said:
He is a SOFTWARE engineer, pimpin. Not a sound engineer. :yes:
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An engineer is an engineer. They're all the same.
 
Bob Savage":xo2t4nl2 said:
fluff191":xo2t4nl2 said:
He is a SOFTWARE engineer, pimpin. Not a sound engineer. :yes:
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An engineer is an engineer. They're all the same.
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Do you work in Marketing or procurement? :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:
 
LukeCurd":3nei2xr8 said:
What do I win for giving you tips on recording or mixing from home?

I listened to your clips and they are far from a finished project. I don't mean to burst your bubble or flame you but if you represent yourself as a engineer, you should be open to feedback.

The vocals are boxy and missing upper presence. The bass guitar is barley heard and has no articulation. The electric guitars sound digital and lifeless. The drums are distant and uneven in levels.

All of these things can be fixed if re tracked with better choices.
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There's always one of you guys huh :) Yea, I am a software engineer, I work at Microsoft. I am a hobbyist recordist and I am learning as I go. I enjoy sharing what I learn and learning from others, which is the point. I don't make a dime from it, nor do I claim to be an expert. I just love it. You're more than welcome to sling poo. I'll still sleep tonight.

That being said, I appreciate your constructive feedback on my mixes...just not your delivery.
 
Bob Savage":1n4ihdb6 said:
You came to the right place, Jason. "Luke" will get you dialed in. His cell number is probably already in your PM box.
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Hopefully is PMs are less dicky. lol
 
I prefer to waste my hopes and dreams on things like a night with Megan Fox or winning the lottery. lol
 
I'm in. Recording an album for charity with basically no recording gear but a laptop and no budget. :lol: :LOL:
 
SkyhighRocks":xgoamtvc said:
I'm in. Recording an album for charity with basically no recording gear but a laptop and no budget. :lol: :LOL:
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A shame you are on the other side of the country man. I'd love to help with something like that. I am a big fan of Karma.
 
The mixes sound great man, I was wrong. Have fun building your brand. :)
 
LukeCurd":22botusk said:
The mixes sound great man, I was wrong. Have fun building your brand. :)
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HAHA, we're cool man. I want you to be honest and sincerely want tips and feedback. I just don't want to need lube to get it. :)
 
projectk2r4":2rojl8zt said:
SkyhighRocks":2rojl8zt said:
I'm in. Recording an album for charity with basically no recording gear but a laptop and no budget. :lol: :LOL:
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A shame you are on the other side of the country man. I'd love to help with something like that. I am a big fan of Karma.
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No worries! I'll make due with what I have. I had a set of studio monitors donated by a friend so it's good.
 
projectk2r4":60w473qc said:
LukeCurd":60w473qc said:
The mixes sound great man, I was wrong. Have fun building your brand. :)
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HAHA, we're cool man. I want you to be honest and sincerely want tips and feedback. I just don't want to need lube to get it. :)
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Let me smoke a joint and get back to you in a few mins.
 
with sonic space and Psycho-Acoustics in mind , this is how I record.

Before I start, I decide how loud I want the song to be and my target audience. How and where will they hear this music and on what listening device. Ipod, Youtube, Laptop speakers, Car, College Bookshelf system, Audiophile headphones or a Hi-Fi Home audio System?

If I we're mixing strait to vinyl it would be easier fine tuning a mix to one listening medium. However times have changed and I what I listed above is what you might say is typical.

A simple word on Tracking Quiet and Mixing Loud. Mixing standard 85 dB. Which is background music volume. If someone is hopefully singing along or jamming out to the song its most likely to peak around 100 dB. Which is college girls, dancing on the bed in their panties volume. We know as source material gets louder the mid's fade and the bass and treble have a nice sweet ring to them. That's why we turn things up because it really sounds better that way. However if you mixed the song to peak out around 85 or 90 that 10 dB jump is going to make your mix sound horrid. Thin and Boomy right?

Lets talk mics.

Acoustic Drums: AKG D112, Senn MD421, SM7B or EV RE20 I center the mid eq sweep at around 800hz in the middle and 2k on the high side and 250k on the low side. I drop as little as -6 or as much as -12 db of gain till I get rid of the boxiness of the drum. The Shure Beta 52a already has this frequency response and which makes things plug and play. However, I would rather gain headroom in the mix by notching the eq.

Cymbals : Shure KSM-137 or AKG C541B. These are airy and articulate mics. Again I choose to use the EQ curve on the board vs the roll off filter on the mic. Anything under 500k you can shelve out.

Acoustic guitars I use the same mic but shelf around 100k. Mic at the 12ft fret about 9 inches out. 22.5 degree angle towards sound hole. You fill find some string noise to filter out in the 1-5k region. Depends on the guitar and strings and player. There is some boom from 250-500k that could use some massage however

Electric guitars: Senn MD-441 up close. This mic is also great for snare. It has a unique honky midrange and sweet roll off. As you suspect I use this to gather most of my upper mid frequency's. 1-4k. Then I have a Royer R-121 to catch all the tame high's and juicy lows and mids. About 1 meter from source and I eq this channel wide open. Now to give the guitars some Cut I normally take a DI feed off the amp. I delay this signal around 5-30 ms of time depending. The DI signal will hit the board faster than the mic signal so there will be a phase alignment that needs corrected. However with just a splash of this feed goes a long way. I normally send this feed a good dose of roomy verb to give it some natural compression and depth. From there the tracks sound pretty dry and straight up the middle.

Vocals are simple as getting the right mic for the right timbre and loudness. Hendrix sang into a M160, Michael Jackson SM7b, Trent Reznor SM57, Everybody else either a U47,U67,U87 would get an outstanding vocal track. 100hz to 500hz I notch for boxy and 2-5k I notch for raspy voices. For everyone else I run it wide open.

Now if your still with me we have everything tracked, Eq'd, and panned center right? Faders and unity and only limiting was used to prevent digital distortion.

My next installment I will cover mixdown, automation and mastering.
 
LukeCurd":3sajc3ht said:
wid sonic space 'n Psycho-Acoustics in mind , dis is duh, how I record.

Bef'e I start, uh, I decide duh, how loud I want the, ERRRR, song t' be 'n my target audiess. Uhhh....Duh, how 'n whehe will dey hear dis music 'n on what listenigg debice. GEE danks.Ipod, uh uh uh uh, Youtube, uh uh uh, Lappop speakehs, duuhhhh, Car, College Bookshelf syssem, Audiophile gordphones or a Hi-Fi Home audio Syssem, duh...uh...?

If I webuh're mixigg strait t' binyl it wudd be easieh fine tung a mix t' one listenigg medium. Um uh.Duh, howebeh times habe changid and I what I listid abobe is what you mite say is typical.

A siple word on Trackigg Kiet 'n Mixigg Loud. Mixigg standard 85 dB. Which is background music bolume. If someone is hopeful siggigg along or dgammigg out t' the, ERRRR, song its most like to peak around 100 dB. Which is college girls, duuhhhh, dancigg on de bid in deir panties bolume. Webuh know as suhce matehial gets loudeh de mid's fade 'n de bass 'n treggle habe a nice sweebuht rigg t' dem. GEE danks.Dat's errrr, why webuh turn diggs up cuz it real sounds betteh dat way. Duh, howebeh if you mixid the, ERRRR, song t' peak out around 85 or 90 dat 10 dB dgump is goigg t' make your mix sound horrid. Din 'n Boomy rite, duh...uh...?

Lets talk mics.

Acoustic Drums: AKG D112, Senn MD421, SM7B or EB RE20 I centeh de mid eq sweebuhp at around 800hz in de mibble 'n 2k on de high side 'n 250k on de low side. I drop as little as -6 or as much as -12 db of gain till I get rid of de boxiness of the, uhhh, drum. De Shure Beta 52a already has dis frekency reponse 'n which makes diggs plug 'n play. Duh, howebeh, I wudd radeh gain gordroom in de mix by notchigg the, uh, eq.

Cymbals : Shure KSM-137 or AKG C541B. Dese are ayree 'n articulate mics. Again I choose t' use de EQ curbe on de board bs de roll off filteh on de mic. Gawlly!Anydigg undeh 500k you can shelbe out.

Acoustic guitars I use the, ERRRR, same mic but shelf around 100k. Lee me lone!Mic at de 12ft fret bou' 9 inches out. 22.5 degree angle toerds sound hole. Duh, you fill find some strigg noise t' filteh out in de 1-5k region. Depends on de guitar 'n striggs 'n playeh. Dehe is some boom from 250-500k dat cudd use some massage duh, howebeh

Eleckric guitars: Senn MD-441 up close. Dis mic is also great f' snare. It has a uke honky midrange 'n sweebuht roll off. As you suspeck I use dis t' gadeh most of my uppeh mid frekency's. 1-4k. GEE danks.Den I habe a Royeh R-121 t' catch all the, duh uhh, tame high's 'n dguicy lows 'n mids. Bou' 1 meteh from suhce 'n I eq dis channel wide open. Now t' gibe de guitars some Cut I normal take a DI feid off de amp. Lee me lone!I delay dis signal around 5-30 ms of time dependigg. De DI signal will hit de board fasteh dan de mic signal so dehe will be a phase alignmin dat need correcked. Duh, howebeh wid dgust a splash of dis feid goes a long way. I normal send dis feid a good dose of roomy behb t' gibe it some natural c'presshun 'n depd. From dehe the, duh uhh, tracks sound pretty dry 'n straite up de mibble.

Bocals are siple as gettigg de rite mic f' de rite timbre 'n loudness. Hendrix sang into a M160, Michael Dgackson SM7b, Trent Reznor SM57, Ebehybody else eideh a U47,U67,U87 wudd get an outstandigg bocal track. 100hz t' 500hz I notch f' boxy 'n 2-5k I notch f' raspy boices. F' ebehyone else I run it wide open.

Now if your still wid me webuh habe ebehydigg tracked, uh uh uh uh, Eq'd, uh uh uh uh, 'n pannid centeh rite, duh...uh...? Fadehs 'n uty 'n on limitigg was usid to prebent digital distorshun.

My next installmin I will cobeh mixdown, automashun 'n mastehigg. Duh.
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I don't understand a word you just said...
 
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