In you opinions, what amp brands will leave a mark...

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We know brands like Fender and Vox where THE brands, then MArshall took it one step further, then Mesa took Marshall stuff and heading towards another direction became the IT brand for a while.

What amp brand do you think will take over next?

In my very humble opinion, I think Egnater will take over. Bruce and the guys are REALLY making awesome sounding amps that appeal to almost everyone, and with the Guitar Center deal, the brand name is getting more and more recognized. They're dominating the small amp market with the rebel and now the Tweaker. They lacked the metal crowd and with the Armaggedon and Vengeance they seem to have a solid offer.

What's the brand in your opinion that'll take over?

Disclaimer:

Taking over doesn't mean dethroning other well establish brands, Fender didn't fall after Marshall and so on.
 
James brown will dominate when he quits fucking around with pedals and gets back into the amplifier business. this is the guy that single handedly created the 5150 at peavey. No one has heard from him in a while, but im sure he's got something up his sleeves. IMHO i cant wait for his next product.

i do agree with you, in that Bruce Egnater has got the bases covered. but honestly Vox is seriously stepping up to the plate lately too. no real metal amplifiers, but have you heard that new night train?!
 
Joeytpg":1gd1kc61 said:
then Mesa took Marshall stuff and heading towards another direction became the IT brand for a while.

Mesa was created by tweaking Fenders, not Marshalls.

I don't think your going to see any big name brands dominate anymore. There are so many small builders out there that can beat the big guys at their own game.
 
BrokenFusion":2g471w80 said:
Joeytpg":2g471w80 said:
then Mesa took Marshall stuff and heading towards another direction became the IT brand for a while.

Mesa was created by tweaking Fenders, not Marshalls.

I don't think your going to see any big name brands dominate anymore. There are so many small builders out there that can beat the big guys at their own game.

I was referring to the "popularity" Marshall had.... that's what I meant with the "Mesa taking Marshall stuff" :)
 
Joeytpg":31ojfw4p said:
BrokenFusion":31ojfw4p said:
Joeytpg":31ojfw4p said:
then Mesa took Marshall stuff and heading towards another direction became the IT brand for a while.

Mesa was created by tweaking Fenders, not Marshalls.

I don't think your going to see any big name brands dominate anymore. There are so many small builders out there that can beat the big guys at their own game.

I was referring to the "popularity" Marshall had.... that's what I meant with the "Mesa taking Marshall stuff" :)
I thought you meant Mesa were taking Marshalls design in another direction. There are so many choices now I think it will be hard for one brand to dominate the market.
 
glpg80":3kj792xa said:
James brown will dominate when he quits fucking around with pedals and gets back into the amplifier business. this is the guy that single handedly created the 5150 at peavey.!

He did a couple of Kustom amps... triple cross and the coupe. I think it will be a long wait for anything that good again.
 
Honestly I'd say Orange is already doing it. Yall might not know it but one thing ive noticed is that all the young players ive met either play Orange amps or really want to get an Orange. A lot of it has to do with most of the bands kids look up to these days (basically any band that plays on the vans warped tour) are either endorsed or simply just play Orange amps. They see the bands they listen to (albeit most are really shitty bands) play Orange and then see the price tag and they automatically assume they're just awesome. I dont think any company at least not anytime soon will ever really take over marshall, fender, or mesa etc... but from a popularity standpoint Orange is appearing to be what the recto was to the 90's if you get what im saying.
 
Joeytpg":242kw6nq said:
We know brands like Fender and Vox where THE brands, then MArshall took it one step further, then Mesa took Marshall stuff and heading towards another direction became the IT brand for a while.

What amp brand do you think will take over next?

In my very humble opinion, I think Egnater will take over. Bruce and the guys are REALLY making awesome sounding amps that appeal to almost everyone, and with the Guitar Center deal, the brand name is getting more and more recognized. They're dominating the small amp market with the rebel and now the Tweaker. They lacked the metal crowd and with the Armaggedon and Vengeance they seem to have a solid offer.

What's the brand in your opinion that'll take over?

Disclaimer:

Taking over doesn't mean dethroning other well establish brands, Fender didn't fall after Marshall and so on.

Not sure how you can compare this, are we talking popularity on forums? Real world use? Sales? Impact on other brands?

Plus they all took their basic design from Western Electric and RCA Tube Receiving manuals. And then small changes occurred over the years...but FWIW you can't leave out stuff like Selmer or Ampeg. And most certainly there are guys that already made more of an impact in terms of design, Reinhold, Mike Soldano, Steve Fryette come to mind for hot rodding stuff and doing to Marshall type amps what Mesa did to Fender. You had Andy Marshall that started the entire tweed retro craze, etc...
 
Outside the forums the big boys are all that most people know, IMO there is not going to be another brand riding up from the sunset anytime soon. Not totally a bad thing either, nothing wrong having kids learn to play a marshall.
 
sinestro":3swlblp5 said:
glpg80":3swlblp5 said:
James brown will dominate when he quits fucking around with pedals and gets back into the amplifier business. this is the guy that single handedly created the 5150 at peavey.!

He did a couple of Kustom amps... triple cross and the coupe. I think it will be a long wait for anything that good again.

he was on rig-talk and mentioned starting his own business off of pedals first. was this recent or are you speaking in general terms?
 
No single builder/company is going to rule the market. And there will probably never be another brand as iconic as Marshall was to classic rock, or Mesa to rock of the late 70's with the Marks or the Recto to the 90s/2000s.

Once that kind of status is achieved and the market gets flooded the way it has, there isn't a clear ruler anymore. It's kind of like how there will never be another Van Halen or another Nirvana, in that they just completely took over and everyone was tuned into it. It's not like that anymore with music OR music gear.

The big names will continue rolling. Marshall will keep being Marshall and banking on their name. Mesa will continue to innovate and patent everything they can possibly think of. Bogner has a pretty huge following, and Diezel will continue to grow.

I can also see the Cameron brand as well as Fortin becoming quite popular and companies like Baron and Peters having a strong and ever-growing underground following.
 
Digital Jams":1664t6uk said:
Outside the forums the big boys are all that most people know, IMO there is not going to be another brand riding up from the sunset anytime soon. Not totally a bad thing either, nothing wrong having kids learn to play a marshall.
well the reality in terms of amp sales it goes something like this...Line 6 Fender Peavey

Used to be Peavey Fender Marshall...
 
AxeFX... or something similar.

I don't think you'll see it in tube amps because there's no more marks to make. Marshall took over from Fender because they produced amps that made NEW SOUNDS that the Fenders couldn't make. Mesa did the same to Marshall and Soldano for the same reasons. These days, instead of breaking new ground everyone and their dog seems to be producing either a hot-rodded Marshall or a hot-rodded SLO/Recto, and everyone who isn't is producing some variant of a vintage amp design that's supposed to perfect some tone we've already been listening to for 40 or 50 years.

I don't think Egnater (and brands like his) will be anything special for the same reason that no one gives a shit about Sound City, Garnet, or Laney... those companies didn't really break any new ground, they simply offered their own version of what was already available.

I know Orange wants to become the new Marshall, but I don't know if they'll make it... I mean, they have a pretty good gimmick going in that their amps are bright Orange... however, once ever band in town has an orange backline it won't be very novel any more, and if they suffer a backlash the way Mesa did over nu-metal they won't have the modern history to carry them through it.
 
degenaro":82raa9w5 said:
Digital Jams":82raa9w5 said:
Outside the forums the big boys are all that most people know, IMO there is not going to be another brand riding up from the sunset anytime soon. Not totally a bad thing either, nothing wrong having kids learn to play a marshall.
well the reality in terms of amp sales it goes something like this...Line 6 Fender Peavey

Used to be Peavey Fender Marshall...

Hung out with a rep for a big name several weeks ago to show him some stuff as a favor and even he was having issues keeping up who was what.

Other then trying to score old marshalls I am done.

How is Battydiva doing with all this India stuff?
 
the next king of amps....
 

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Everything's a copy of a copy....made to sound like something else. I'll just stick with the tweaked originals. Some start from the ground up though.....Mike Fortin being one of them.

Steve
 
Technology evolves too, we can't disclaim the 'uncomfortable' mention of the Axe-FX a few posts up... I'm not in agreement or disagreement with this viewpoint, I'm just saying it's a very valid one for sure.

I mean shit, who woulda thunk we'd all be tapping away on keyboards into online forums just 20 years ago? Texting? Facebook? Cell phones?

Just sayin'...
V.
 
FIREBALL":1b24xeh9 said:

as much as I like Diezel amps, they have TOO MUCH of a unique thing to be HUGELY popular. You know the "you either LOVE THEM or you HATE THEM.

there isn't much in between with Diezels.
 
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