Installing new grill cloth?

[LP Freak]

I'm considering installing new grill cloth on my Marshall 4x12 straight bottom and could use some tips on how to do the job. I've never done it before, so I'll take all the help I can get. I need to know how much cloth to get and anything else I might need.

 

[mrp5150]

No clue if it would be the same, but when I replaced the grill cloth on my Bogner cab, I called them and ordered a new cloth/frame. Just had to unscrew the old one and install the new one.

 

[snowdog]

Here's a couple of places to buy the cloth, not sure how much you would need...might want to give Mojo a call, I think they will even make one for you if you want.

http://www.mojotone.com/amp-parts/Grill ... 8Ta38Lbh50

http://www.marshallparts.com/content/es ... rill+Cloth

 

[LP Freak]

I was kinda wanting to do it myself since I like to do stuff like that.

 

[John4021]

Northern1 did his Bogner in a pinstripe grill cloth, Thats hard to work with but he did a really nice job...definatly a plus doing it yourself. Se if you can shoot him a PM.

 

[lolzgreg]

This is a two man job. It's not easy as it looks, especially to get it super tight and have the best possible results. Dave and I spent several hours doing this, and it wouldn't have been possible without him

You need to remove the old staples, draw lines on the inside of the cloth to line it up with the baffle; use one of the stripes from the pinstripe to get it lined up. You will need to put in staples to set it into the baffle, then staple the opposite side more tightly, remove the first staples you put in, and then put in the final staples for each side. It's basically gradually tightening it until its perfect. The job can go down the hole quickly if you're not careful.

 

[LP Freak]

Thanks man.

 

[Ancient Alien]

I've done a few, and it is fairly easy if you are handy. It's upholstering 101.
A second person would help, but not necessary. You only need one yard for a 4x12.
Hardest part is removing the old staples and making it ready.
Paying close attention to alignment of the cloth pattern.
When I do it, I use a straight edge to cut the first side perfectly straight with the pattern.
Staples should also go on a diagonal to give it the best grip.
Start on one side (either top or bottom).
Line your straight edge cut with the inside top rail and staple across the whole frame about one inch apart.
Fold the material over the top edge and lay the frame on top of the cloth.
(this is where a second person would help)
Pull as tight as you can in the middle and fold it over the back of the frame.
Place your first set staple there.
Continue to pull and staple from the middle out to each edge, making sure the pattern stays straight.
After the top and bottom are done, trim off the excess material on the bottom with a utility knife and a straight edge.
At this point, you will need to make relief cuts at all 4 corners so the corners don't bunch up. You can cut it parallel to the frame or at a 45.
Then simply pull the material over one side, making sure it is straight to the frame. Pull staple, pull staple and so on.
Repeat on the other side.
Then trim off all excess material and you are done.
You can get plastic piping and run that around the whole frame for that Marshall cabinet look.
Hope this was helpful.
Good luck.

 

[Ancient Alien]

This is the pattern you should staple for best results, not parallel.

 

[LP Freak]

I've done a few, and it is fairly easy if you are handy. It's upholstering 101.
A second person would help, but not necessary. You only need one yard for a 4x12.
Hardest part is removing the old staples and making it ready.
Paying close attention to alignment of the cloth pattern.
When I do it, I use a straight edge to cut the first side perfectly straight with the frame.
Staples should also go on a diagonal to give it the best grip.
Start on one side (either top or bottom).
Line your straight edge cut with the inside top rail and staple across the whole frame about one inch apart.
Fold the material over the top edge and lay the frame on top of the cloth.
(this is where a second person would help)
Pull as tight as you can in the middle and fold it over the back of the frame.
Place your first set staple there.
Continue to pull and staple from the middle out to each edge, making sure the pattern stays straight.
After the top and bottom are done, trim off the excess material on the bottom with a utility knife and a straight edge.
At this point, you will need to make relief cuts at all 4 corners so the corners don't bunch up. You can cut it parallel to the frame or at a 45.
Then simply pull the material over one side, making sure it is straight to the frame. Pull staple, pull staple and so on.
Repeat on the other side.
Then trim off all excess material and you are done.
You can get plastic piping and run that around the whole frame for that Marshall cabinet look.
Hope this was helpful.
Good luck.

Thanks. I've ordered the grill cloth and should see it in a few days, then I'll give it a shot. I'm pretty handy so it shouldn't be too much trouble. It's just nice to talk to someone who's done it before and get a few pointers.

 

[LP Freak]

This is the pattern you should staple for best results, not parallel.

What kind of staple gun are you using?

 

[Ancient Alien]

This is the pattern you should staple for best results, not parallel.

What kind of staple gun are you using?

I use a Senco pneumatic stapler set to 80 psi.
If you are going to use a manual stapler, make sure it's a good one so you don't have to hammer down half the staples

 

[LP Freak]

This is the pattern you should staple for best results, not parallel.

What kind of staple gun are you using?

I use a Senco pneumatic stapler set to 80 psi.
If you are going to use a manual stapler, make sure it's a good one so you don't have to hammer down half the staples

I've got both kinds that's why I was curious.

 

[LP Freak]

Replaced the grill cloth. Man, that was easier than I thought and it turned out great. Start straight and pull it tight, wahla! Thanks for the help guys.

 

[Ancient Alien]

I had faith in you.
It's actually extremely easy to do.
Next, you can do a re-tolex.
I find that extremely easy too

 

[PeteLaramee]

I like doing things like this, but am not good at it. I changed the grill in a Mojo 4x12 straight front with cloth from the Mojo site. It was a bitch. I didn't have help, but could've used it for the stretching/stapling of the cloth.

Next time I'll gladly pay $100+ for someone else to do it.

 

[LP Freak]

I found an easy way to stretch the grill cloth by myself. After stapleing the first edge of the grill cloth I cut a 2x2 about 3' long. I stapled the excess grill cloth to it that I planned to trim off on the opposite side. I was able to use the 2x2 to pull the grill cloth tight and even at the same time while I stapled it to the frame. I also did the same when I got to the other side and it worked great.