Intonation problems with high and low e strings

[Thunkful]

Took my guitar to a tech and got it back today. She mentioned something about not being able to set up the intonation completely on those two strings because the screw was almost already as far as it can be. This is probably due to scale length of the neck being little off or tremolo misplaced maybe?

Is this fixable somehow? If not i can surely live with it. It still sounds amazing with duncan jb now in the bridge and NYXL strings.

 

[GOHOINC]

Took my guitar to a tech and got it back today. She mentioned something about not being able to set up the intonation completely on those two strings because the screw was almost already as far as it can be. This is probably due to scale length of the neck being little off or tremolo misplaced maybe?

Is this fixable somehow? If not i can surely live with it. It still sounds amazing with duncan jb now in the bridge and NYXL strings.

Is this on a trem or stop tail? I found a worn saddle on strat style trem doing this to me in the past. I had maxed out the saddle screw and it still wasnt right. replaced the saddle and then had to pull it back to a normal position and it intonated properly.

 

[Thunkful]

Took my guitar to a tech and got it back today. She mentioned something about not being able to set up the intonation completely on those two strings because the screw was almost already as far as it can be. This is probably due to scale length of the neck being little off or tremolo misplaced maybe?

Is this fixable somehow? If not i can surely live with it. It still sounds amazing with duncan jb now in the bridge and NYXL strings.

Is this on a trem or stop tail? I found a worn saddle on strat style trem doing this to me in the past. I had maxed out the saddle screw and it still wasnt right. replaced the saddle and then had to pull it back to a normal position and it intonated properly.

It is actually a Gotoh floyd rose, i think i need to measure the neck at home to see if i can spot the problem. I'm relieved to hear tho that you were able to fix it

 

[PBGas]

On a gotoh floyd or any Floyd for that matter, you can simply grind down the lower corner of the saddle if you need it to run a bit longer to intonate.

 

[Thunkful]

On a gotoh floyd or any Floyd for that matter, you can simply grind down the lower corner of the saddle if you need it to run a bit longer to intonate.

Thanks, will keep this in mind!

 

[scottosan]

Are you drop tuning? Pickups to close to the strings can Also cause intonation problems

 

[skullfxr]

On a gotoh floyd or any Floyd for that matter, you can simply grind down the lower corner of the saddle if you need it to run a bit longer to intonate.

I have had to do this as a worst case scenario.

 

[Thunkful]

Are you drop tuning? Pickups to close to the strings can Also cause intonation problems

It's in E standard tuning, the action's low, but the pickups aren't that close to strings.

 

[Dave L]

She does know there are other holes for the intonation screw, right? I can´t possibly think of a scenario where the high E actually is as far back as it can go, or where the high E is as far forward as possible and the low E as far back as possible at the same time.

 

[Thunkful]

She does know there are other holes for the intonation screw, right? I can´t possibly think of a scenario where the high E actually is as far back as it can go, or where the high E is as far forward as possible and the low E as far back as possible at the same time.

She might have made a mistake. The guitar sounds ok tho and i'll take it to another tech after these new strings wear off.

 

[Dave L]

Snap a pic and we´ll know soon enough.

 

[splatter]

On a gotoh floyd or any Floyd for that matter, you can simply grind down the lower corner of the saddle if you need it to run a bit longer to intonate.

I'm having trouble picturing what you mean. Grind down the front of the saddle at the last point where the string makes contact ?

I don't have an intonation problem, I'm just curious?

 

[splatter]

She does know there are other holes for the intonation screw, right? I can´t possibly think of a scenario where the high E actually is as far back as it can go, or where the high E is as far forward as possible and the low E as far back as possible at the same time.

She might have made a mistake. The guitar sounds ok tho and i'll take it to another tech after these new strings wear off.

If you have a decent tuner you can check the intonation.Its my experience that a lot of so called guitar techs have no business working on a guitar, theirs or anyone else's.
I didn't watch the whole video but i watched enough to see that this guy seems to have the right idea.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ho ... ORM=VIREHT


Keep in mind you can pull the string sharp when you fret it .

 

[Dave L]

On a gotoh floyd or any Floyd for that matter, you can simply grind down the lower corner of the saddle if you need it to run a bit longer to intonate.

I'm having trouble picturing what you mean. Grind down the front of the saddle at the last point where the string makes contact ?

I don't have an intonation problem, I'm just curious?

What he's talking about there is grinding down the little angle at the lower back corner of the saddle to get it further back where it otherwise would contact the whale tail carrying the fine tuners. In some extreme cases it could be necessary, but very rarely.

 

[xzyryabx]

Took my guitar to a tech and got it back today. She....

There's your problem right there...

 

[scottosan]

I think a picture is necessary. My bet is that the tech doesn't know the saddle retention screws have 3 spots that can be screwed into. The high E is typically the closest to the neck, no way it's back all of the way

 

[Thunkful]

I think a picture is necessary. My bet is that the tech doesn't know the saddle retention screws have 3 spots that can be screwed into. The high E is typically the closest to the neck, no way it's back all of the way

Might be that she's not familiar with gotoh floyds?

Also, from which angle/spot should i take the picture?

 

[scottosan]

I think a picture is necessary. My bet is that the tech doesn't know the saddle retention screws have 3 spots that can be screwed into. The high E is typically the closest to the neck, no way it's back all of the way

Might be that she's not familiar with gotoh floyds?

Also, from which angle/spot should i take the picture?

Top should work

 

[glip22]

That makes no sense. I've seen it where the high E saddle was out of adjustment flat. The saddle had no more adjustment forward toward the neck; never sharp away from the neck. If that was the case, I would throw the guitar out because the other 5 strings would be much further out and it would sound like crap.
On softer woods the mounting hole inserts can widen out toward the neck. This could cause an intonation issue with a string or strings being to flat without adjustment but not too sharp. Is you issue too sharp or too flat or you aren't sure?