Is a Sig:X The Answer?

[ape2000]

Then there's some KSR and Peters offerings that come up surprisingly cheap on the used market but idk where those sit on in terms of the tight or dry/saturated matrix. Part of me wonders what the center point is if VHT is dry and Mesa is saturated. More of a random thought.

 

[MetalHeadMike]

Just trying to land on an amp finally and lay the search to rest for a good while.

This is not the place to hang if your trying to "lay the search to rest for a good while"

Don't let the "dry" statements regarding VHT/Fryette deter you from trying these amps. Just have to try one and see if it's your thing.

I've never played the Sig X (almost nabbed one on more than one occasion, and still might someday), but the D60 I had was "dry" in the sense that it lacks the compression/saturation of the gain structure that so many other higher gainers have, e.g. diezel, engl, mesa, ksr, etc. However, there is a degree of clarity and punch that seems to come from that "dry" un-compressed type of gain structure. Throw a good OD in front and saturate to taste while still maintaining the punch & clarity.

The Splawn QR, at least the one I had, was a great blend of tightness, saturation, clarity, and punch; phenomenal amp.

The D60 would be another to consider and they can be had cheap.

But the SigX might be something you'd really dig and I've seen those go from $900-$1400.

Good luck!

 

[ape2000]

Just trying to land on an amp finally and lay the search to rest for a good while.

This is not the place to hang if your trying to "lay the search to rest for a good while"

Don't let the "dry" statements regarding VHT/Fryette deter you from trying these amps. Just have to try one and see if it's your thing.

I've never played the Sig X (almost nabbed one on more than one occasion, and still might someday), but the D60 I had was "dry" in the sense that it lacks the compression/saturation of the gain structure that so many other higher gainers have, e.g. diezel, engl, mesa, ksr, etc. However, there is a degree of clarity and punch that seems to come from that "dry" un-compressed type of gain structure. Throw a good OD in front and saturate to taste while still maintaining the punch & clarity.

The Splawn QR, at least the one I had, was a great blend of tightness, saturation, clarity, and punch; phenomenal amp.

The D60 would be another to consider and they can be had cheap.

But the SigX might be something you'd really dig and I've seen those go from $900-$1400.

Good luck!

ha! I always tell myself, "ok, I'll get the gear, then I'll avoid reading any threads about anything unless I can be helpful to someone else" damn you, GAS.

But yeah, no matter what, I'm going to need to pick something up and try it out. I'll probably start VHT and go to Splawn if I'm not in love.
I was thinking I'd use a Strymon Deco to add some "saturation" and I actually recently copped a VFE Dragon after hearing so much about them. Any other pedals you recommend for adding some juice?

 

[nightlight]

Sig:Xes are great amps. It's very hard to dial them in incorrectly, the controls are remarkably intuitive.

I don't find it really dry, I think of it more in terms of being a slightly different gain structure, very organic and woody/throaty as compared to say my Engls, which are compressed to hell (but sound really good).

I used to own a Soldano Avenger, and I'd say that had an even more raw sound, but it didn't have the amount of gain that the Sig:X did and was only single channel. Given that the Avenger is supposedly based off the SLO lead channel, that's something to keep in mind.

If you push it the Sig:X with a tube screamer, it will sound a lot more liquid and saturated, but will still have that raw tone underneath. Honestly though, I think you'd only need a TS if you were going for really high ultra super gainie music.

The Sig:X will keep up with the Diezel VH4 I have in terms of gain, though due to the gain structure, a lot of people might feel it's not as distorted.

I did a Sig:X video a while ago, here it is:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BylHozSnkEv ... _copy_link

 

[MetalHeadMike]

Just trying to land on an amp finally and lay the search to rest for a good while.

This is not the place to hang if your trying to "lay the search to rest for a good while"

Don't let the "dry" statements regarding VHT/Fryette deter you from trying these amps. Just have to try one and see if it's your thing.

I've never played the Sig X (almost nabbed one on more than one occasion, and still might someday), but the D60 I had was "dry" in the sense that it lacks the compression/saturation of the gain structure that so many other higher gainers have, e.g. diezel, engl, mesa, ksr, etc. However, there is a degree of clarity and punch that seems to come from that "dry" un-compressed type of gain structure. Throw a good OD in front and saturate to taste while still maintaining the punch & clarity.

The Splawn QR, at least the one I had, was a great blend of tightness, saturation, clarity, and punch; phenomenal amp.

The D60 would be another to consider and they can be had cheap.

But the SigX might be something you'd really dig and I've seen those go from $900-$1400.

Good luck!

ha! I always tell myself, "ok, I'll get the gear, then I'll avoid reading any threads about anything unless I can be helpful to someone else" damn you, GAS.

But yeah, no matter what, I'm going to need to pick something up and try it out. I'll probably start VHT and go to Splawn if I'm not in love.
I was thinking I'd use a Strymon Deco to add some "saturation" and I actually recently copped a VFE Dragon after hearing so much about them. Any other pedals you recommend for adding some juice?

The Dragon is awesome, but most days I actually prefer the SD 805.

 

[ape2000]

Sig:Xes are great amps. It's very hard to dial them in incorrectly, the controls are remarkably intuitive.

I don't find it really dry, I think of it more in terms of being a slightly different gain structure, very organic and woody/throaty as compared to say my Engls, which are compressed to hell (but sound really good).

I used to own a Soldano Avenger, and I'd say that had an even more raw sound, but it didn't have the amount of gain that the Sig:X did and was only single channel. Given that the Avenger is supposedly based off the SLO lead channel, that's something to keep in mind.

If you push it the Sig:X with a tube screamer, it will sound a lot more liquid and saturated, but will still have that raw tone underneath. Honestly though, I think you'd only need a TS if you were going for really high ultra super gainie music.

The Sig:X will keep up with the Diezel VH4 I have in terms of gain, though due to the gain structure, a lot of people might feel it's not as distorted.

I did a Sig:X video a while ago, here it is:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BylHozSnkEv ... _copy_link

I dig the riffage, man!
I honestly normally don't even play with high levels of gain; but, that's comforting to hear all around. I always care more about tone than brootz. I can always boost or overdrive the piss out of something if I want gain. Versatility is important, too. So the Sig:X gets points there.

 

[ape2000]

I have a VH4 and a Sig X. The Sig X is very different to the VH4, in fact I can't really think of an amp that sounds like the Sig X does. It is it's own beast.

The Sig X is tight and refined sounding, definitely has tons of mids. It doesn't have a boomy low-end, and the high-end is very smooth. It isn't abrasive and nasty in the way that say a 5150 can be.

If you want to hear some Sig X tones, I actually put up some stems of my guitars from our last two albums.
Exegesis - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/56nf9uvyphkv ... beQqa?dl=0
Wires/Dream\Wires - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0r0sh7hhcygf ... pZvwa?dl=0

Finally, the VH4 is great. It's got tons of low end density and it has the high-end aggressive thing going on, but it can be tamed with the presence control. It has lots of mids too, but I'd say the Sig X is tighter sounding.

If you love the VH4 sound, then you've gotta go with that really haven't you? Maybe a VH2, or a Paul? My VH4 cost me £1200 and my D-Moll cost me £1000, and my Sig X cost me £750. So there are bargains out there to be had. Just gotta save up and be patient.

I will check these out. Gave a few tracks a quick scroll through. Please let me know where I can listen to the full band stuff! Mostly cause I dig what I'm hearing and because it'll give me a good contextual idea.

As for Diezel - it's part of a sound I love but doesn't tick every box. I know I'll need to make a compromise somewhere, so I'm figuring out what might give me a little of each of what I want. I considered a VH2 or even a Lil Fokker.

That Sig:X sounds great in your stems though. So I'm intrigued.

Albums can be heard at: http://www.bridgedisaster.co.uk
The other amp was a Laney VH100R.

Our last single, Truth Escapes, was all Diezel. The D-Moll, VH4, and Hagen.

Basically any of the amps listed are epic and well worth having.

I meant to say - I checked y'all out on Spotify the other day. I dig it!

 

[Orvillain]

Cheers dude!

 

[ape2000]

I have a VH4 and a Sig X. The Sig X is very different to the VH4, in fact I can't really think of an amp that sounds like the Sig X does. It is it's own beast.

The Sig X is tight and refined sounding, definitely has tons of mids. It doesn't have a boomy low-end, and the high-end is very smooth. It isn't abrasive and nasty in the way that say a 5150 can be.

If you want to hear some Sig X tones, I actually put up some stems of my guitars from our last two albums.
Exegesis - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/56nf9uvyphkv ... beQqa?dl=0
Wires/Dream\Wires - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0r0sh7hhcygf ... pZvwa?dl=0

Finally, the VH4 is great. It's got tons of low end density and it has the high-end aggressive thing going on, but it can be tamed with the presence control. It has lots of mids too, but I'd say the Sig X is tighter sounding.

If you love the VH4 sound, then you've gotta go with that really haven't you? Maybe a VH2, or a Paul? My VH4 cost me £1200 and my D-Moll cost me £1000, and my Sig X cost me £750. So there are bargains out there to be had. Just gotta save up and be patient.

Oddly enough, I've been giving a lot of thought to the Paul today. The whole Marshall meets Diezel thing intrigues me.

 

[skullfxr]

I agree with the fact that it is very dry, but that is a preference thing IMO. You have to a adapt your playing to be slightly different than you would on a ENGL. It does not make sense, you just have to have a different texture (if that is the right word). Personally I like drier amps for some things, and more saturated than others..

The Splawn Promod at high volumes (100db-105db in room), is where I like to be for a lot of things. The Splawn needs to be lous though to enjoy it IMO.

The sigx is really just its own thing. Kind of polarizing, you love it or you hate it. All in or all out. Hot or cold.

I have a thought that may be worth entertaining. Have you played a Krank Rev+? It has nice ckeans, and I think the gain is at a spot you may like. I had one for a while, and miss it, but I traded it for my ktre. Like a pissed off 5150. Lots of edge. Worked great for me. I got mine for under $400 on a fluke on CL. Note the '+' makes a big difference IMO.

 

[skullfxr]

I should also note that I love the K-tre and would whole-heartedly recommend one.

Also, I want more time on an archon tbh. Once I played a combo and loved it. The next time I played a head into a random cab and really despised it. I would like to hear one in a familiar cab and had a chance to roll tubes and see if I liked it better.

With the krank, tube compliment is a major thing.

 

[stephen sawall]

Fryette in general cuts better in a mix than Diezel. With pedals it's easy to add compression and rawness. I prefer the Herbert over the other Diezel. But that's just personal preference. All the Diezel and Fryette amps are great amps.

 

[ape2000]

I agree with the fact that it is very dry, but that is a preference thing IMO. You have to a adapt your playing to be slightly different than you would on a ENGL. It does not make sense, you just have to have a different texture (if that is the right word). Personally I like drier amps for some things, and more saturated than others..

The Splawn Promod at high volumes (100db-105db in room), is where I like to be for a lot of things. The Splawn needs to be lous though to enjoy it IMO.

The sigx is really just its own thing. Kind of polarizing, you love it or you hate it. All in or all out. Hot or cold.

I have a thought that may be worth entertaining. Have you played a Krank Rev+? It has nice ckeans, and I think the gain is at a spot you may like. I had one for a while, and miss it, but I traded it for my ktre. Like a pissed off 5150. Lots of edge. Worked great for me. I got mine for under $400 on a fluke on CL. Note the '+' makes a big difference IMO.

I'll take a gander! Today's thread crawling has me enamored with some of the Baron offerings. If every amp I'd like to try would just appear in the same shop at once, that'd be greeeeaaaat lol