Is anyone still using the Egnater Mod50 or 100?

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Been using mine hardcore for a half a year or so and have no plans of stopping - the only thing I want is to try a few more modules... but when things already sound great I've gotten lazy here. I really don't come on here much since I'm so happy with it and well, gloating only goes so far... but for good measure:

I'VE GOT A FN MOD50 AND IT SOUNDS WAY BETTER THAN WHAT YOU GOT!

The only time I'll even think about redoing my electric rig is when I have enough money and someone else to lug around a few AC30s, Twin Reverbs, SLO, etc... sigh... even the thought of this is uninteresting.

Phil
 
Mod100 fanboi

Have m4. Rt/50 rig and a dual modded lynchbox as well.
 
Another Mod 50 fan here. Been through all of the Egnater modules and bunch of custom modules too. There is a tone for just about everyone. And it's so much easier to pickup a new module and experiment instead of buying another small builder of crazy expensive boutique amps and lose money - done with that nonsense!! I've easily owned 50 amps in the last 10 years. The Mod 50 stays. Just my 3.5¢.
 
btw i would say that the stock egnater modules are my favorite by far.
 
I too am an Egnater MOD50 user. I have the MOD50 and the M4 and can also attest to the M4 with the RT2/50 sounding much fuller.

Also, I've noticed that my M4 with RT2/50 has considerably more headroom than the MOD50. Both are 50W, but I basically have to dime the MOD50 to get the volume/dB level of the M4 and RT2/50 at about 35% through the same cab. I have no explanation for this. It makes no sense to me.
 
bbaug14":3ji22314 said:
..I've noticed that my M4 with RT2/50 has considerably more headroom than the MOD50. Both are 50W, but I basically have to dime the MOD50 to get the volume/dB level of the M4 and RT2/50 at about 35% through the same cab. I have no explanation for this. It makes no sense to me.
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Close. Being that both are pretty much 50 watt amps, they both have probably almost the exact same amount of usable headroom, it's just the input sensitivity of the RT is crazy high, and the output of the M4 is definitely no slouch either. Put those two together and you end up with a wickedly hot signal hitting the output section of the RT.

I absolutely love my M4 and RT2/50 rig. I could actually use two more modules when I play out, so I'm still holding out for an E2. From September on I'll playing four nights a week, so if the E2 hasn't released by then I'll have pick up something else for the additional sounds I'll need. Probably another 3+SE as it's always been a favorite of mine.
 
E2 is a 1 rack space, 2 module slot version of the M4 - holds two modules. Coming....sometime in the future.
 
Still say the 20th Shiva with El34s into a good cab has about no fizz or buzz. Not sure what you heard! A friend of mine said that too as did his friend but they played the KT88 version into V30s! :) Anyone, different tastes...

Mod50 just always left me wanting more punch and cut...always looking for more treble/presence, etc.

I just prefer the feel and tone of a proper tube amp frmo preamp to power amp. For example...I thought the Egnater Erect was good till I picked up a new Reborn Dual Rec last year and it was a real eye opener and WOW experience. I am happy with the Shiva, Rectifier and Mark V. :)

If I ever wanted a digital (AxeFX) or modular rig....I would most likely go Randal R4/RT2-50 rig since the R4 is the same thing as the M4.
 
richedie":3mb2q2fq said:
Mod50 just always left me wanting more punch and cut...always looking for more treble/presence, etc.

I just prefer the feel and tone of a proper tube amp frmo preamp to power amp. For example...I thought the Egnater Erect was good till I picked up a new Reborn Dual Rec last year and it was a real eye opener and WOW experience. I am happy with the Shiva, Rectifier and Mark V. :)
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classic example of "your mileage may vary". I went from a dual rec to the mod50 and can't imagine ever going back.

As long as you find what works for you, that's all that matters! A mod50/100 is a great place to start looking, as it seems for many people it becomes the last stop :thumbsup:
 
Haha, gear forums discussing preferred tone are always a huge source of enjoyment for me. I was thinking about a dual or trip rec b4 I found the mod50 and probably only like the mod50 better because its tolex is a warmer color and the knobs aren't cold machined metal - tube amps shouldn't have cold knobs IMO. The dual rec also has a nasty habit of placing the image of a person I really dont like in my brain - so regardless of how it sounded, it's ruined for me.

The weird part is I still love the distortion channel of my previous main amp - a Crate GX-212. It took many years to come to the realization and how to develop coping mechanisms for the fact that I really, really liked the sound of an amp someone abandoned at my house b/c they thought it sucked something fierce. If I could get rid of the rest of the buzzing at loud volumes/certain notes (something inside the chassis still vibrates) then I'd just keep on using that POS. Everyone used to laugh at me for using that thing, however no one ever complained about its tone (the buzzing was another story).

I now run the mod50 with Guitar Rig on the Mac for all the modulation/time-based/wacky effects and I am fairly confident I can get any amp sound out of this combo if I spent enough time with it. Amps and technology are so insane today the sonic range of even 'crappy' gear still boggles my mind. The difference, I suppose, is the mod50 I don't have to alter the base tone and it ends up wasting less time to make me happy. That and the knobs aren't cold.
 
Broknstuff, I know what you mean, I hated Dual Rectifiers. The new Reborn Dual Recs are a new animal. Apples to oranges compared to the old ones. I have owned plenty through the years, sold them all, not the new one! Much better than Egnater's Erec for me. Very smooth amp, one of the best classic rock amps I have owned. I also got the classic tolex covering so it looks vintage. :)

Either way the Mod 50 just started to seem like a toy once I got back into using real amps again. The first eye opener was when I picked up a VHT and everyone noticed tight away how much more authority my tone was, bigger, bolder, etc.

From talking to other Mod 50 owners, it's the power amp Bruce used in the Mod 50 that gave it the whimpy, congested feel and tone to all the modules, no matter which ya used.

I heard from Eric and others on the forum that the Mod 100 was better, a
and I know the rack configuration us a lot better.
 
richedie":1tk6akqc said:
... once I got back into using real amps again...
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Yo Richedie, how you doing man? Good to hear from you again. Glad you've found an amp that's working for you!

Still, considering the mod50 as not a "real amp" is a bit of a stretch...I'm sure you didn't mean it like this, but I just gotta say for anyone reading who might be interested in it and thinking it's just a little bedroom practice amp toy... With guitar rigs, there's an incalculable amount of permutations from strings, guitars, pickups, amps, speakers etc, but the two most important are playing style and subjective preference. The mod50 does not feel like a "toy" or "not real amp" to me, nor to any of my friends who played it and that inspired them to go check out the egnater stuff and buy it too (my friend bought a rebel 20 + 2x12 cab after hearing the mod50). So if it doesn't work for you, totally fine and no problem at all, there's no one amp that fits all (but I have to say this might be the one that comes closest just do it's nature flexible nature of module swapping). If the sounds don't work for you, then all the features and flexibility don't mean much. But if it sounds great to you, then it makes it all that much better and more special!

Guitar tone is a balancing act: one person's tight is another person's too compressed, one persons warm is another persons muddy, one person's clarity and sparkle is another persons ice-pick. The mod50 definitely has a more rounded top end over all, but you can still get it brighter sounding with the tone switches on the modules. I'd love to try out a mod100 or a poweramp with my mod50, just for a change of pace or using them together, but I like the intrinsic tone that the mod50 imparts. Some may gravitate towards the randall stuff, but from what I've heard my ear likes the egnater more (again, just preference, no right or wrong).

There's 1000 way to skin a cat...but I've found mine, and I'm done hunting :lol: :LOL: Point is, it's all just preference, but I'm a proponent of giving the modular series a try, just because it's basically cured all my amp gas and it's great to feel like the main part of my rig is done, and the rest (effects etc) is just icing on the cake. I can't imagine how much money, time, and headache I've saved rather than constantly swapping amps. Now I can spend more money on guitars -- haha what can I say, gear buying and selling is still fun :rock:
 
I just bought a 1969 Marshall Plexi and have been A/B'ing it with my Egnater rig for kicks, specifically the SL module, channel A.

At high volumes, the Plexi (dimed) and the SL module Ch A are tonally pretty similar. The Egnater is not toyish at all. It actually holds its own, which I found very impressive vs. a real deal holy grail amp.

Please don't take what I am saying as disrespect, but I have no clue what you are talking about when you say this amp is like a toy to you - to me that's just absurd.

For those interested (if any) here are my observations between my 1969 Plexi and the SL module (Ch A) through the same 4x12:

1. Tonally - from a timbre standpoint, the voicing is pretty close.
2. The Plexi shines in all the areas I feel the SL module is lacking:
a. The top end is clearer on the Plexi, where the SL feels and sounds attenuated;
b. There is more clarity between the notes in the Plexi where the SL is thicker - the Plexi is leaner sounding in a pleasant way;
c. Plexi def. has more punch (duh), but it was not a huge difference or a dealbreaker;
d. Plexi sounds more raw and chimey (esp. scaled back on guitar vol.) where the SL sounds rounder/polished;
e. Dynamically, both have great dynamics but the Plexi is noticeably more touch-sensitive;

I run my M4 through a Mesa 50/50 with 6L6s. Very impressed with the similarities in the two amps, despite the noted differences. I really feel a few changes to the module design/circuit on the SL module to make it more lean, chimey, and present in the highs could close the gap between the two. Gain is not a problem.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again, To get my M4 they will have to pry it away from my cold dead fingers!!
I think lots of folks forget the main ingredient in your tone. YOU!
Most of what you hear comes out of your fingers, how you play, how you pick or what angle you hit the strings, how you attack the guitar. It's why only EVH sounds like EVH or Jeff Beck sounds like Jeff Beck.
I witness this several years ago, a friend of mine was playing a show back in the mid 80's. his rig was 57 reissue Fender Strat, and Sunn Enforcer 100 watt tube amp. He had a killer ballsy tone. Later that night another guitarist sat-in on a few tunes. I didn't even sound like the same rig even though the guy was using my friends guitar and rig. I mentioned this to my friend while this was happening and he said, "Yeah, that guy just don't know how to play a Strat."

So if the MOD50 doesn't not sound right it's your fault. :D or you just haven't found the amp that works with your playing style. Besides, all an amp does it AMPLIFY your sound......
 
LRStrat":2c9v6gxm said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, To get my M4 they will have to pry it away from my cold dead fingers!!
I think lots of folks forget the main ingredient in your tone. YOU!
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So if the MOD50 doesn't not sound right it's your fault. :D or you just haven't found the amp that works with your playing style. Besides, all an amp does it AMPLIFY your sound......
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Haha, I guess that using a GX-212 makes me the greatest guitar player of all time! Thanks! :thumbsup:

Lol there was an Adam Jones interview somewhere (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7A1cMfl0Xc, in fact - at 4:28) where he says that is BS and that it's the guitar :) Either way, it's all a moot point and any arguments here are to stroke our egos in some fashion. I still stick by: THE MOD50 IS THE GREATEST AMPLIFIER OF ALL TIME - PAST AND FUTURE... THIS IS A GODDAMN UNDENIABLE FACT.
 
LRStrat":216bmqc4 said:
I think lots of folks forget the main ingredient in your tone. YOU! Most of what you hear comes out of your fingers, how you play, how you pick or what angle you hit the strings, how you attack the guitar. It's why only EVH sounds like EVH or Jeff Beck sounds like Jeff Beck.
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I agree 100%. I think at least 75% of your tone comes from the way you play and attack the strings. I can dial in pretty much any amp (e.g., Bogner, Soldano, Egnater, Marshall, etc.) and get "my" tone. Sure, it won't be *identical*, but guys that know my tone would instantly recognize it as such.....

LRStrat":216bmqc4 said:
I witnessed this several years ago, a friend of mine was playing a show back in the mid 80's. his rig was 57 reissue Fender Strat, and Sunn Enforcer 100 watt tube amp. He had a killer ballsy tone. Later that night another guitarist sat-in on a few tunes. It didn't even sound like the same rig even though the guy was using my friends guitar and rig.
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I have witnessed the same phenomenon on numerous occasions. In fact, just go sit and watch/listen to an open mic night at a club where they provide the backline and instruments and you'll see that, as the guitar player changes, so too does the tone coming from the backline - even when the players don't change a single knob on the amp!
 
Got a mod100 incoming, wahooooo! I had 3 modules lying around that had no home, so now they'll have a place to sleep soundly at night :cheers:
 
No one will sleep soundly with a MOD100 in da house.....

Congrats!
 
Oh, btw, I just picked up a second MOD50 on Friday (HNAD for me!) and grabbed Brent's COD module after 'broknstuff' bought his MOD100 unloaded.

Hmm, I guess people still are using the Eggie MOD50 and MOD100.......um, maybe it's because they are PHENOMENAL amplifiers?
 
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