is my amp the problem?

[bigchungusstuckinmymouth]

im using a peavey express 112 and the recordings ive done with a royer r121 and sm57 sound horrible, especially when i add distortion to the mix.

 

[ChurchHill]

Do you have a reference for what you're wanting that to sound like? I mean, for something, that might be perfect, but we don't know what it is that you're trying to achieve, so figuring out what the problem is might be difficult without knowing your desired result.

Having said that, I'm hearing a LOT of effects and not a lot of definition. Maybe that's what you're going for, IDK.

 

[bigchungusstuckinmymouth]

Do you have a reference for what you're wanting that to sound like? I mean, for something, that might be perfect, but we don't know what it is that you're trying to achieve, so figuring out what the problem is might be difficult without knowing your desired result.

Having said that, I'm hearing a LOT of effects and not a lot of definition. Maybe that's what you're going for, IDK.

siamese dream, be quiet and drive deftones, master of puppets

 

[bigchungusstuckinmymouth]

Do you have a reference for what you're wanting that to sound like? I mean, for something, that might be perfect, but we don't know what it is that you're trying to achieve, so figuring out what the problem is might be difficult without knowing your desired result.

Having said that, I'm hearing a LOT of effects and not a lot of definition. Maybe that's what you're going for, IDK.

thats what i mean. i want more definition

 

[Smash]

Yeah. It is pretty heavy on effects..Maybe try being a little more subtle. I bet you will get some clarity

 

[ChurchHill]

Are you hearing what you want to hear in the room?

You've got some good mics, but how you place them can greatly affect definition. Sometimes, it helps to play a looper through your amp, or have a friend play, while you're moving the mic and seeing what it does to the sound.

 

[bigchungusstuckinmymouth]

Are you hearing what you want to hear in the room?

You've got some good mics, but how you place them can greatly affect definition. Sometimes, it helps to play a looper through your amp, or have a friend play, while you're moving the mic and seeing what it does to the sound.

the amp is tiny. i move it to the side and it sounds so muffled it’s unlistenable

 

[ChurchHill]

You could try backing it up about 6" or a foot. Try changing the angle it's pointed at the speaker, too. Like place the mic to the side and point it at the center of the speaker. Even moving the mic a hair can really change what it picks up.

It's counterintuitive, but you could try turning the gain down on the amp a bit. What sounds great in the room can sound like mush on a recording.

More to the point of your original question, that's probably not the amp I'd choose if I were going for those types of sounds. I've had a few Peaveys similar to yours and they are great amps for what they are, but that's not quite what you're going for.

From your other thread, the speaker is going to make a big difference, too, as is the guitar, and everything else in between. Get whatever you have to sound the best in the room that you can, then worry about recording it. If it sounds good to start with, it's a lot easier to capture it in a recording. If it sounds bad in the room, no matter what you do to the recording is going to fix it.

 

[CoreyW]

Those are open back right? Try micing the back and see what happens.

 

[Floyd Eye]

I’m gonna go with yes. It’s your amp.

 

[BABMusic]

siamese dream,... master of puppets

Gonna be hard to find an amp that can do both of those sounds. A Mesa Mark series will do MoP. Siamese Dream? I've never found an amp that can do that tone because I think Corgan recorded 20 guitars to get that sound. But maybe something with a lot of low mids and low end and add a Big Muff. I think he did use a JCM800 with distortion pedals on that album.