John Frusciante Named Top Guitarist in 30 YEARS!!!!!!

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Mudder":1g34lwcp said:
Comparatively, there isn't anything Fruciante can do that Petrucci can't do better, then go even farther, and I don't think any of us are suggesting JP is the best guitarist of the last 30 years.

You don't think Satriani, Gilbert, Bonnamassa, Paisley could cover every RHCP song?

I mean, it's funny how people think that metal players can play all the music styles.
 
Jakem":cwk0z8ls said:
Mudder":cwk0z8ls said:
Comparatively, there isn't anything Fruciante can do that Petrucci can't do better, then go even farther, and I don't think any of us are suggesting JP is the best guitarist of the last 30 years.

You don't think Satriani, Gilbert, Bonnamassa, Paisley could cover every RHCP song?

I mean, it's funny how people think that metal players can play all the music styles.

Of course they can play anything, but they play metal for all the money and hot chicks. :lol: :LOL:
 
misle":28n3mw5h said:
I liked his guitar work on Blood Sugar Sex Magik, but I think all the heroin he took after that fucked his mind up. I haven't been impressed with much of his work since then.

+1.

I think he kinda shat all over Stadium Arcadium. That album could have been a LOT better, but the production was too over the top, and the engineering kinda sucked too. Sounds small.

He's getting a little too artsy-fartsy lately. He's not "into" songs with structure or hooks or choruses...
 
Strat+Marshall":v7dkcq7i said:
Jakem":v7dkcq7i said:
Mudder":v7dkcq7i said:
Comparatively, there isn't anything Fruciante can do that Petrucci can't do better, then go even farther, and I don't think any of us are suggesting JP is the best guitarist of the last 30 years.

You don't think Satriani, Gilbert, Bonnamassa, Paisley could cover every RHCP song?

I mean, it's funny how people think that metal players can play all the music styles.

Of course they can play anything, but they play metal for all the money and hot chicks. :lol: :LOL:


LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
 
Mudder":2jdyq27o said:
Comparatively, there isn't anything Fruciante can do that Petrucci can't do better, then go even farther, and I don't think any of us are suggesting JP is the best guitarist of the last 30 years.

You don't think Satriani, Gilbert, Bonnamassa, Paisley could cover every RHCP song?

As if Petrucci would sound any good playing that style. Gilbert too. The players you mentioned are awesome at what they do but that doesn't make them a master of all trades. Not that I think Frusciante is particularly amazing since BSSM.

So true about that metal player comment too. I love how metal is seen as the toughest genre to play and so any good metal player can play all "inferior" styles by default.
 
FWIW, Mudder DID say Bonamassa and Paisley, who definitely aren't metal.
 
guitarslinger":3kq2psiy said:
FWIW, Mudder DID say Bonamassa and Paisley, who definitely aren't metal.

No shit but they couldn't just immediately be masters of other styles either. Bonamassa and Paisley are both absolute monsters but they're monsters of blues-rock and country, respectively. I'm not saying they wouldn't be able to play other styles to a very high standard, I'm sure they would, but it doesn't work that way just because they can play their own styles brilliantly, which is what the original point was getting at.
 
Random Hero":2hedtkv2 said:
guitarslinger":2hedtkv2 said:
FWIW, Mudder DID say Bonamassa and Paisley, who definitely aren't metal.

No shit but they couldn't just immediately be masters of other styles either. Bonamassa and Paisley are both absolute monsters but they're monsters of blues-rock and country, respectively. I'm not saying they wouldn't be able to play other styles to a very high standard, I'm sure they would, but it doesn't work that way just because they can play their own styles brilliantly, which is what the original point was getting at.

I agree with what you're saying, BUT..........

I think Paisley would probably be AWESOME in the RHCP. :rock: :rock: :rock:
 
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ShaneV":21kk8s5i said:
Hipsters just need to stop making lists. Actually, come to think of it, hipsters just need to kill themselves in large quantities.
 
Tom Morello is #5 :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:

Goes to show guys, forget wasting money on good tone just use a Pod, play simple chords, make noises that sound different from anybody else.
Talent really doesn't matter, it's all about what band you're in.
 
Random Hero":1u251rlw said:
guitarslinger":1u251rlw said:
FWIW, Mudder DID say Bonamassa and Paisley, who definitely aren't metal.

No shit but they couldn't just immediately be masters of other styles either. Bonamassa and Paisley are both absolute monsters but they're monsters of blues-rock and country, respectively. I'm not saying they wouldn't be able to play other styles to a very high standard, I'm sure they would, but it doesn't work that way just because they can play their own styles brilliantly, which is what the original point was getting at.

Joe B definitely has the chops to be considered a good hard rock guitarist.... jeesh every gear demo he has ever done sounds like EJ with a Les Paul.....
 
Blackie08":3dhpziis said:
Random Hero":3dhpziis said:
guitarslinger":3dhpziis said:
FWIW, Mudder DID say Bonamassa and Paisley, who definitely aren't metal.

No shit but they couldn't just immediately be masters of other styles either. Bonamassa and Paisley are both absolute monsters but they're monsters of blues-rock and country, respectively. I'm not saying they wouldn't be able to play other styles to a very high standard, I'm sure they would, but it doesn't work that way just because they can play their own styles brilliantly, which is what the original point was getting at.

Joe B definitely has the chops to be considered a good hard rock guitarist.... jeesh every gear demo he has ever done sounds like EJ with a Les Paul.....

He considers himself a rock player doesn't he? A rock player playing blues, right?
 
guitarslinger":sb4r44yy said:
Random Hero":sb4r44yy said:
guitarslinger":sb4r44yy said:
FWIW, Mudder DID say Bonamassa and Paisley, who definitely aren't metal.

No shit but they couldn't just immediately be masters of other styles either. Bonamassa and Paisley are both absolute monsters but they're monsters of blues-rock and country, respectively. I'm not saying they wouldn't be able to play other styles to a very high standard, I'm sure they would, but it doesn't work that way just because they can play their own styles brilliantly, which is what the original point was getting at.

I agree with what you're saying, BUT..........

I think Paisley would probably be AWESOME in the RHCP. :rock: :rock: :rock:

I can't argue with this but that's because Paisley is awesome in anything :thumbsup:
 
Jakem":txvm2xud said:
Mudder":txvm2xud said:
Comparatively, there isn't anything Fruciante can do that Petrucci can't do better, then go even farther, and I don't think any of us are suggesting JP is the best guitarist of the last 30 years.

You don't think Satriani, Gilbert, Bonnamassa, Paisley could cover every RHCP song?

I mean, it's funny how people think that metal players can play all the music styles.
World famous metal players Joe Bonnamass and Brad Paisley? You don't think the guys I mention can play anything Fruciante can? Have you listened to any Gilbert lately?
 
Mudder":1e08rn3y said:
Jakem":1e08rn3y said:
Mudder":1e08rn3y said:
Comparatively, there isn't anything Fruciante can do that Petrucci can't do better, then go even farther, and I don't think any of us are suggesting JP is the best guitarist of the last 30 years.

You don't think Satriani, Gilbert, Bonnamassa, Paisley could cover every RHCP song?

I mean, it's funny how people think that metal players can play all the music styles.
World famous metal players Joe Bonnamass and Brad Paisley? You don't think the guys I mention can play anything Fruciante can? Have you listened to any Gilbert lately?

I wrote "metal players" so I think you understood who I was talking about.
 
guitarslinger":t9zmkc5m said:
BlinkTwice":t9zmkc5m said:
Look at the polll that website did and who people could vote for; John Frusciante, Slash, Matt Bellamy, Johnny Marr, and Tom Morello.

:doh: :doh: :doh:

I'm surprised they included Johnny Marr.

I'm impressed. :rock: :rock: :rock:

From those you listed I would say he is the best. Outside of that :thumbsdown: not a chance. Guthrie can play 2 strings and kill most guitarist.
 
Jakem":2vtn27sb said:
Mudder":2vtn27sb said:
Jakem":2vtn27sb said:
Mudder":2vtn27sb said:
Comparatively, there isn't anything Fruciante can do that Petrucci can't do better, then go even farther, and I don't think any of us are suggesting JP is the best guitarist of the last 30 years.

You don't think Satriani, Gilbert, Bonnamassa, Paisley could cover every RHCP song?

I mean, it's funny how people think that metal players can play all the music styles.
World famous metal players Joe Bonnamass and Brad Paisley? You don't think the guys I mention can play anything Fruciante can? Have you listened to any Gilbert lately?

I wrote "metal players" so I think you understood who I was talking about.
Sure I do. I also mentioned that no one is called Petrucci the best guitarist of the last 30 years. I wouldn't consider Satch or Gilbert (nor JP for that matter) to be metal players per se, all three have demonstrated a fairly wide range of musical taste and style.
 
I think the bottom line is naming someone as the best is too definitive in a field where personal taste and subjectivity rule. Music is very personal - so it's impossible to rank anyone as the 'best'... What criteria would they use? Most sales? First person mentioned in 10,000 people asked? Because, other than these rather objective criteria, the rest is all up in the air. So, first thing's first, look at this thread - fast growing and lots of involvement. The bottom line here is it's created a stir, and at the end of the day, the publisher of that magazine is benefiting their bottom line - end of story. Make a statement, create a stir, get people interested - all press, bad or good, is good press - and this is a perfect example of it. Let's also take into account the demographic of the voting public - you ask a 60 year old living in the delta who the best guitarist is, and you're gonna hear tales and stories of Robert Johnson and Muddy Waters and Fat Hand Mallroy and Guitar Watson and the rest of 'em... Eddie Van Who?? Exactly. Then ask some 14 year old from the Bronx who the best is, hell if I know what he'll say, but you ask a 40 year from the Bronx and they'll say Johnny Ramone or Steve Vai. Ask someone from the west coast and you may even end up hearing Navarro or Frusciante. Ask someone in Germany and they'll say Rudolf or Michael Schenker. It's WAY TOO SUBJECTIVE.

Might as well have a magazine with the front cover stating:
VOTED WORLDS BEST COLOR!!!
or...
VOTED BEST SMELL IN THE WORLD, EVER!!

Know what I mean? All I can tell ya is, I've seen Frusciante live before and after his heroin years, and I think he's a phenom with a 6 slinger. Guy's got chops and soul, and man, that beats the f*ck outta some hairband rocker blazing 128th notes in the Lydian mode of whatever minor or major. Speed's great, but soul's better. Let's look at Slash - why's he so special? Well, because he's the full meal deal man - the whole package - cool, hair, top hat, tats, low slung Les Paul, attitude, and a butt nonchalantly hangin' from his gob - blues guitar on steroids, and I think he's awesome at it. So whatever, can't make a statement about anyone being better than someone else - there's no measure to artistry. But one thing is for certain, that magazine is gonna get picked up FAST from the racks.

Peace,
V.
 
Jakem":3n5j0nvc said:
Mudder":3n5j0nvc said:
Jakem":3n5j0nvc said:
Mudder":3n5j0nvc said:
Comparatively, there isn't anything Fruciante can do that Petrucci can't do better, then go even farther, and I don't think any of us are suggesting JP is the best guitarist of the last 30 years.

You don't think Satriani, Gilbert, Bonnamassa, Paisley could cover every RHCP song?

I don't anyway.
Technically they could probably go note for note after the fact, but it wouldn't sound or feel right.
Blood Sugar Sex Majik would not blend like it does if any of these guys played on it, not saying it would sound worse just different.

The guitar on BSSM was all about feel, vibe, space and the notes that are not played are more important.
I'm not convinced that a more technically gifted guitarist would have achieved that.
If you ask me Petrucci would ave really f*cked the whole album up, imagine what he'd have done to If You Have To Ask or Apache Rose Peacock?

Listen to the solo on "Could Have Lied". Can anyone here say they could replicate the phrasing and feel there?


Do I think he's the best guitarist of the last 30 years?
What the fuck does "best guitarist" even mean? Best tone? Fastest sweep picker? Best vibe? Most groupies? Coolest head-gear? Best improvisor? Most modal knowledge?
 
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