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donbarzini":1ba6oxbd said:
I want to know everything about Jose, let us discuss. I recently learned he was Chilean, I always thought he was Mexican.
He's Mexican. He picks grapes down the road from me.
 
Which reminds me....very sad....

Gidget, aka The Taco Bell Dog. She died from a stroke Tuesday night at the age of 15.

Gidget was not only the famous “Yo quiero Taco Bell” spokesdog, she also starred as Bruiser’s mom in Legally Blonde 2. Gidget’s trainer said she loved being on set and in front of the camera.

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I have a RM50 incoming and am contemplating getting a Voodoo modded Jose module to see what the fuss is all about. That is all that I know.
 
This post of Curts is always killer to read, never get tired of it......

Joe Holmes has two killer sounding '72 Jose modded Super Leads. Those things are his prized possessions. He used them forever around the LA clubs and used them when he played with Ozzy. His tone with Ozzy live was one of the best tones I have ever heard. Just monstrous.

Also as mentioned, Sykes's amps he uses in the current Thin Lizzy stuff sound killer.

I heard a lot of Jose modded Marshalls in Hollywood back in the mid to late 80's. Most of them sounded like crap, but was that the amp or the players fault? A few of them were awesome. The thing is, there were quite a few different "Jose mods" that he did. Some were higher gain than others.

Brian Jay from Keel had a great Jose modded Marshall. SO good in fact that when Keel got their record deal, someone from Peavey used Brian Jays amp to make the VTM series amp. I never played a VTM series but Mark Cameron tells me if you get all the dip switches set right that they sound pretty good.

Here's a very interesting Jose story that I experienced first hand. My buddy owned a guitar shop in Huntington Beach. Mark Cameron worked for him and I was already having Mark work on my amps. This was probably 1997 when his store opened. In about 2000, my buddy bought the entire Jose collection of amps from Jose's family after Jose passed away. They took the truck down to pick them up and I left my store I own and drove to their store to wait with Mark for the delivery. The truck gets there and we start unloading Super Lead after Super Lead after Super Lead (almost exclusively metal panel amps). Someone noticed that taped to the bottom of almost every single amp was an invoice. We started turning all the amps upside down and reading off the names on the invoices: Neal Schon, Mick Mars, Bruce Bouillet, etc etc I don't even remember all the names but it was a who's who of LA rock guitarists.

All these guys had sent Jose amps for mods and then Jose passed and they never got their amps back. Well Mark and I start weeding through the amps and going for the ones that we could tell from the exterior were already modded. Very soon we found an amp that had the name ATOMICA stenciled across the front where the Marshall logo should have been. It was a '71 Super Lead and was beat to hell. This was THE amp guys seriously. It was that sound, in a box, right in front of us. Mark was playing through it and it was just that tone I had always wanted. We switched off playing it and I decided I HAD to have that amp. I went to talk to the owner who was one of closest friends at the time. I offered him $1500, he said no. I offered him $2k he said no. Now $2k was about what a very nice plexi was selling for at the time and this was a beat to hell metal panel. $2500? No. $3000!!!!!!!!! No.

He said, just let me sort through this stuff and I'll sell you the amp once I figure out what's what. Mark loved the amp so much, and there were so many Super Leads there that Mark took it and hid it in his pile of amps to be repaired in his repair room. For months, Mark would pull it out when I came in and we would play it then he would hide it again. The owner and I had an agreement that it was mine when he decided to sell it, but by this point he didn't even remember he had it. Then my buddies shop started having severe financial trouble.... severe. Mark kept telling me the amp is still there. You better get it soon. I said don't worry it's mine, your boss promised.

About 3 weeks later Mark called me..... "did you get the Atomica amp?" No, I said...... Mark said, "WELL IT'S GONE. I've torn the whole shop apart!" I called the owner and when he finally got back to me he confirmed he had sold a "bunch of broken stuff that Mark was never going to fix" to a competitor. HOLY CRAP!!!!! I called that shop and he said, "Oh yeah, the Atomica amp? I had ******* fix it and return it to stock and I sold it". Now ******* was the biggest electronics doofus you could imagine. He was a keyboard player and didn't have the slightest clue about tone. The ATOMICA amp was gone, but thankfully Mark Cameron poked around inside that amp for months and knows every little secret as to why that amp sounded so good. How much of the Atomica amp inspired Marks's "Jose" mod? More than a little I'd guess.

Sorry for the long post, but there's some Jose history for you.
 
donbarzini":30j9nyir said:
Gainfreak":30j9nyir said:
http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=15606&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

One quote from that thread :lol: :LOL:

I had a 74 100 moded from him, it plain sucked. It was thin as a razor.

old news. Jose did many mods and some of them plain sucked. I heard 2 back in the 80's that sounded like complete ass. The ones I heard sounded like the tone on the bullet boys album and I think that tone sounds like dogshit. The thing about Jose is that he didn't tweak the amps. If a good sounding Marshall was modded it would come back sounding killer but if the amp sounded bad to begin with, it came back sounding bad. Dave Friedman will more then likely tell you the same.
 
donbarzini":2ndw706k said:
Gainfreak":2ndw706k said:
old news. Jose did many mods and some of them plain sucked. I heard 2 back in the 80's that sounded like complete ass. The ones I heard sounded like the tone on the bullet boys album and I think that tone sounds like dogshit. The thing about Jose is that he didn't tweak the amps. If a good sounding Marshall was modded it would come back sounding killer but if the amp sounded bad to begin with, it came back sounding bad. Dave Friedman will more then likely tell you the same.

So do you think Dave actually tweaks a shitty sounding amp prior to modding? It would only make sense that a shitty sounding amp going in would sound like a shitty sounding amp with a mod coming out, no?
No. IMHO this is what sets the new breed of modders from the old guys like Jose and Lee Jackson. The new guys will trace back what sounds like shit and fix it. At least that has been my experiance but it comes with one caveat. With some guys It will highly depend on how busy the said modder is, how far they are in there career and how much time they have lol. I know for ceratin that Mike Fortin goes out of his way to make all his mods sound good.
 
These guys used one on their 1st few albums:

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How about a receipt:

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So reading that metro thread Curt is saying that the holy grail Jose was early EVH in a box without any pedals or eq...........sounds to me other than the ppimv it was justa really really good plexi??

I do not have a lot of experience with Mark's Jose mod but after hearing Dave's during the Fortin hang they have WAY more gain and some compression working than a really good plexi :confused:
 
Digital Jams":3qmstuuq said:
So reading that metro thread Curt is saying that the holy grail Jose was early EVH in a box without any pedals or eq...........sounds to me other than the ppimv it was justa really really good plexi??

I do not have a lot of experience with Mark's Jose mod but after hearing Dave's during the Fortin hang they have WAY more gain and some compression working than a really good plexi :confused:
It depend on where you set the Master volume. There are two types of setting and one is more open sounding.

With that said, your new Fortin mod will have a plexi type setting where you also have the ability to kick in a few bright switches which can hop up the gain a bit and give it a kick in the ass. There is a VH vibe with that setting for sure but you have to crank it.
 
donbarzini":14cv0ftf said:
I still don't think that everyone, new modders included, will listen to an amp and say this sounds shitty and make it sound good in stock form then perform the mod. From what it sounds like, Mike would though, he seems like he is willing to please the men.
you are correct, not every modder will, that's why I mention the caveat ;)

Mike is the type of guy who will go the extra mile and if and when He can't, he will stop modding. That's just the type of guy he is.
 
Gainfreak":13ssf9e5 said:
Digital Jams":13ssf9e5 said:
So reading that metro thread Curt is saying that the holy grail Jose was early EVH in a box without any pedals or eq...........sounds to me other than the ppimv it was justa really really good plexi??

I do not have a lot of experience with Mark's Jose mod but after hearing Dave's during the Fortin hang they have WAY more gain and some compression working than a really good plexi :confused:
It depend on where you set the Master volume. There are two types of setting and one is more open sounding.

With that said, your new Fortin mod will have a plexi type setting where you also have the ability to kick in a few bright switches which can hop up the gain a bit and give it a kick in the ass. There is a VH vibe with that setting for sure but you have to crank it.

I take it you are talking about the MV Saturation switch. Between that and the Feel switch it sounds like you can get pretty open and raw or compressed and gained out.
 
donbarzini":1eft06nh said:
Digital Jams":1eft06nh said:
I take it you are talking about the MV Saturation switch. Between that and the Feel switch it sounds like you can get pretty open and raw or compressed and gained out.

That sounds like the feedback control on a Suhr CAA SE+ amp I had once.......once.

My mother touched me once..........................once.
 
donbarzini":2ok2vqkz said:
I still don't think that everyone, new modders included, will listen to an amp and say this sounds shitty and make it sound good in stock form then perform the mod.

It's usually more of a case of service the amp first, make sure everything looks ok and works fine.. then after you mod it, that is where you make the necessary circuit tweaks, if it comes out sounding not so good. Its really not too tricky, my 800 wasn't perfect after i modded it but after tweaking necessary parts of the circuit, it came out sounding unreal.. and my youtube clip honestly does it no justice at all.

But as Ralph said, its more of a case of if the tech/modder actually bothers to do that. Many do, and some don't. Mike does take care of this stuff for sure.

donbarzini":2ok2vqkz said:
From what it sounds like, Mike would though, he seems like he is willing to please the men.

:hys: :hys: :hys:
 
donbarzini":qjdsw6hq said:
Digital Jams":qjdsw6hq said:
I take it you are talking about the MV Saturation switch. Between that and the Feel switch it sounds like you can get pretty open and raw or compressed and gained out.

That sounds like the feedback control on a Suhr CAA SE+ amp I had once.......once.

Its actually a totally different thing to the Suhr Feedback control, that is a different circuit.

The MV Saturation switch gives you different levels of gain/clipping and the Feel switch changes some of the feel/gain in the preamp.
 
donbarzini":virl9vw3 said:
I want to know everything about Jose, let us discuss. I recently learned he was Chilean, I always thought he was Mexican.

Is this the Dos XX's guy?
 
donbarzini":8h7cpa1c said:
Gainfreak":8h7cpa1c said:
http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=15606&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

One quote from that thread :lol: :LOL:

I had a 74 100 moded from him, it plain sucked. It was thin as a razor.
The two amps I had modded by him sounded killer. They were good amps to begin with and he added a bit of gain and sustain to the basic sound as well as some flexibility volume-wise with a push-pull that cut the volume for smaller places. The diode clipping master volume was a huge part of the sound. He was a nice old dude - always upbeat. Seemed to really enjoy what he was doing.

Steve
 
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