JVM versus EVH 5150 III

[Code001]

JVM is great, but as a more brutal metal player, the 5150 III was just better for me. Both can cover tons of ground, and both sound great. Both can do any genre you can think of, but I feel that the JVM is more suited towards the 80s metal stuff, and the EVH is more suited towards the modern metal stuff. These aren't hard cut rules, though, and like I said, both can do the genres fine. I chose the EVH, but the JVM is just as good. The JVM is a bit noisy, though.

 

[JonVengeance]

JVM is great, but as a more brutal metal player, the 5150 III was just better for me. Both can cover tons of ground, and both sound great. Both can do any genre you can think of, but I feel that the JVM is more suited towards the 80s metal stuff, and the EVH is more suited towards the modern metal stuff. These aren't hard cut rules, though, and like I said, both can do the genres fine. I chose the EVH, but the JVM is just as good. The JVM is a bit noisy, though.

I disagree with this. I have both and I feel that both do more modern, brutal metal equally well. I am planning on using both when we track my band's new album.

 

[Code001]

JVM is great, but as a more brutal metal player, the 5150 III was just better for me. Both can cover tons of ground, and both sound great. Both can do any genre you can think of, but I feel that the JVM is more suited towards the 80s metal stuff, and the EVH is more suited towards the modern metal stuff. These aren't hard cut rules, though, and like I said, both can do the genres fine. I chose the EVH, but the JVM is just as good. The JVM is a bit noisy, though.

I disagree with this. I have both and I feel that both do more modern, brutal metal equally well. I am planning on using both when we track my band's new album.

Thanks for saying what I basically said, I guess?

 

['63-Strat]

I've played both a number of times and like them both. But if I had to choose I think I'd take the JVM. I played a 210H last night on the red mode of the clean/crunch channel at the house of blues as backline for a gig and thought it sounded great, had it cranked up pretty loud though lol gotta love when you can do that a bit I agree the OD channels can get a oversaturated but if you keep the gain low they're fine too, just didn't need a ton of gain for this band. I do agree the JVM can get a little noisier than I'd like at high gain though.

 

[JonVengeance]

JVM is great, but as a more brutal metal player, the 5150 III was just better for me. Both can cover tons of ground, and both sound great. Both can do any genre you can think of, but I feel that the JVM is more suited towards the 80s metal stuff, and the EVH is more suited towards the modern metal stuff. These aren't hard cut rules, though, and like I said, both can do the genres fine. I chose the EVH, but the JVM is just as good. The JVM is a bit noisy, though.

I disagree with this. I have both and I feel that both do more modern, brutal metal equally well. I am planning on using both when we track my band's new album.

Thanks for saying what I basically said, I guess?

Well, you said that the JVM was more suited to 80's stuff and the EVH was better suited to metal. I'd say that either is equally adept at both styles. Also, the JVM is no noiser than the 5150 III. You just have to watch the gain. I use the OD1 channel with gain at 10 or 11 o'clock and that is plenty. Once you start getting to 12 o'clock or higher it does get noisy, but that much gain is overkill. Also, what I play is more on the brutal side FWIW.

 

[bsp01]

One thing I've noticed about the 5150 III is that it sounds amazing when you put it in a band or recorded mix much more so than just sitting with it alone. I'm always tweaking the knobs when I'm by myself but in a band mix it just stands out and sounds killer.

 

[Code001]

JVM is great, but as a more brutal metal player, the 5150 III was just better for me. Both can cover tons of ground, and both sound great. Both can do any genre you can think of, but I feel that the JVM is more suited towards the 80s metal stuff, and the EVH is more suited towards the modern metal stuff. These aren't hard cut rules, though, and like I said, both can do the genres fine. I chose the EVH, but the JVM is just as good. The JVM is a bit noisy, though.

Well, you said that the JVM was more suited to 80's stuff and the EVH was better suited to metal. I'd say that either is equally adept at both styles. Also, the JVM is no noiser than the 5150 III. You just have to watch the gain. I use the OD1 channel with gain at 10 or 11 o'clock and that is plenty. Once you start getting to 12 o'clock or higher it does get noisy, but that much gain is overkill. Also, what I play is more on the brutal side FWIW.

Bolded a few things you might have skipped over.

 

[JonVengeance]

JVM is great, but as a more brutal metal player, the 5150 III was just better [for me. ]Both can cover tons of ground, and both sound great. Both can do any genre you can think of, but I feel that the JVM is more suited towards the 80s metal stuff, and the EVH is more suited towards the modern metal stuff. These aren't hard cut rules, though, and like I said, both can do the genres fine. I chose the EVH, but the JVM is just as good. The JVM is a bit noisy, though.

Well, you said that the JVM was more suited to 80's stuff and the EVH was better suited to metal. I'd say that either is equally adept at both styles. Also, the JVM is no noiser than the 5150 III. You just have to watch the gain. I use the OD1 channel with gain at 10 or 11 o'clock and that is plenty. Once you start getting to 12 o'clock or higher it does get noisy, but that much gain is overkill. Also, what I play is more on the brutal side FWIW.

Bolded a few things you might have skipped over.

I saw those parts but I still feel like your general opinion was the part I bolded. I agree that both can do different styles fine and it's good that you acknowledged that, but I disagree with the part of your post where you said that the JVM is more suited to 80s metal and the 5150 III is more suited to modern metal.

What is seems like you were saying was that while either can do a variety of styles, the JVM is inherently more suited to 80s metal and the EVH 5150 III is the more brutal, modern sounding amp. I disagree with that based on my experience with both.

 

[mrkmas]

There is a JVM210H in the classified rights now.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=106132

 

[kasperjensen]

I don't know about the 5150, but I regret the day I sold my JVM 410H.

But it's coming back. A new one anyway. One of these fine days.

 

[grooveHT]

hmm..JVM or 5150 III?

that's simple...

you want a cameron...just saying....

but that's not important right now..

*scurries away*

But I'm not looking for forum street credit, so no Cameron. And the best amps that had anything to do with Cameron always had a Marshall logo on them.

oh...so much for my for my 'can't beat em then join them' tactics....I'm doomed to be a pariah...le sad...

but seriously
don't you have a fortin? doesn't that do the high gainzorz for you?

What about a JVM vs. splawn?

 

[Les Zombie]

I owned both but always liked the 5150 III better than the jvm.

 

[glassjaw7]

5150 III gets my vote. I think it just sounds better all around. The JVM is cool and has some good tones in it, but there's something I didn't like. It almost sounded "generic" or something. I don't know. Tried a couple of them through different cabs and though it was just so-so.

The III on the other hand was great and inspiring on every channel. It does have that "wiry" scrapy VH thing going on though. That's either something you love or hate IMO.

 

[nevusofota]

However for price I have my eye on the 50 watt evh. Just wish I could demo one.

Order one from GC, demo it at home for an entire month and return it if you don't like it. One of the only reasons to buy gear from them.

 

[Lord Toneking]

5150 III gets my vote. I think it just sounds better all around. The JVM is cool and has some good tones in it, but there's something I didn't like. It almost sounded "generic" or something. I don't know. Tried a couple of them through different cabs and though it was just so-so.

The III on the other hand was great and inspiring on every channel. It does have that "wiry" scrapy VH thing going on though. That's either something you love or hate IMO.

+1 on the generic thing

My best friend had one and I pretty much hated it. I didnt want to insult him when he had it but after he sold it I told him that I thought it sounded horrible . No matter what settings or what channel/mode or whatever, it always sounded...synthetic or something

Ive only played a 5150III in the store at low volume and remember really liking channel 2 and channel 3. I was disappointed in the clean channel thinking it was gonna have that 'Fender clean'...but it didnt

 

[deadweight]

never played a JVM
but this was a 5150 III and it sounds deadly to me, I love mine.

 

[nevusofota]

So far the consensus seems to bethat the jvm is the better amp?

NAh, I think the consensus is that those who have chimed in prefer the JVM. I think only the end user can determine whats better for their individual uses,preferences and style...

So true..............pitfalls that many fall into after reading threads like this.

 

[chumbucket]

However for price I have my eye on the 50 watt evh. Just wish I could demo one.

Order one from GC, demo it at home for an entire month and return it if you don't like it. One of the only reasons to buy gear from them.

I'm with you. I wouldn't buy anything from Guitar Center (Bain Capital) except to take advantage of them. I would probably take it back and pay more from another store if I really wanted to keep it after the trial period was up.

 

[nevusofota]

Love my 5150III. I know the amp well, here's my opinion.


Channel 1's clean is OK, though better than most high gainers I've tried. EQ in the loop makes it very good.

Channel 2 is the hidden gem of the amp. Many, when demo'ing, play the clean channel then want the max gain, not spending enough time on Channel 2. Boosting this channel yields one of the best rhythm channels in modern high gainers. I use a Maxon OD9. It is in your face, urgent, and tight. Beefier and stands out more in the mix than Channel 3. Boosting it allows you to decrease the amps highs which will reduce the fizz that many say about this amp. I've also noticed that the fizz goes away when cranked.

Channel 3 is more saturated and more forgiving (which I like for leads only). It also sounds very good at low volumes.


I've never tried a JVM

 

[Audioholic]

5150 III gets my vote. I think it just sounds better all around. The JVM is cool and has some good tones in it, but there's something I didn't like. It almost sounded "generic" or something. I don't know. Tried a couple of them through different cabs and though it was just so-so.

The III on the other hand was great and inspiring on every channel. It does have that "wiry" scrapy VH thing going on though. That's either something you love or hate IMO.

I can slightly get the generic thing, however I felt it had lots of harmonic content and a very nice saturation sound and felt good to play as well. I am itching to try out a 5153, and may go that route, sounds killer on some of the metal tracks I have heard, but def sounds like it can have that chainsaw high end sizzle to it as well, which might get grating. The Marshall just sounded good to me both times I demo'd it.