JVM versus EVH 5150 III

[grooveHT]

hmm..JVM or 5150 III?

that's simple...

you want a cameron...just saying....

but that's not important right now..

*scurries away*

But I'm not looking for forum street credit, so no Cameron. And the best amps that had anything to do with Cameron always had a Marshall logo on them.

oh...so much for my for my 'can't beat em then join them' tactics....I'm doomed to be a pariah...le sad...

but seriously
don't you have a fortin? doesn't that do the high gainzorz for you?

What about a JVM vs. splawn?

you went there didn't you
what about it? =D

That's just me poking multiple bears

 

[lolzgreg]

I've had both a JVM and a 5153 at the same time. The EVH has more of a liquid feel to channel 3. It's one ferocious channel. I hated channel 2!!!!!!!

The JVM is a good all around amp and can cover classic rock to metal, but isn't as saturated as the evh is. You can get it to sound good, but really, the amps two different beasts.

I'm going to try try to lay down the "facts" (yes, facts" here without trying to offend you. Please don't take anything I say as offensive, but I think I have some hands on experience here since I do own both of these amps, and I do record them several times a week as part of my recording career.

If you'd like, you can dial in channel 2 and channel 3 of the 5150 III to sound near identical, ESPECIALLY if you want to boost it. You just need the gain down on 3 and the gain up on 2 and a bit of play with the EQ. I even fooled the4thlast1 in a blind test, and even myself on a few occasions. While tonally they may sound different with all knobs at noon, the amp has a "sound" that kind of comes fill circle. I also used this amp on nearly every reamping job I did for nearly a year straight and STILL own this amp, even though Fortin modded it. Now I use is as my live amp, at it kicks all sort of ass.

Also, the JVM is probably the only amp in the word that has as much if not more gain and saturation than the EVH/original 5150 series amps. Both of those amps on the highest gain red channels can get so saturated its ridiculous. I have never run the gain higher than noon on my JVM red OD2 OR my EVH 5150 III, and that is WITHOUT a boost, WITH low output passives. I don't know why anyone would unless they were playing super "filthy" sounding music, and even then it would just feedback like crazy.

I will agree that the two amps have very different flavors. I would be EQUALLY happy with either, but I honestly prefer the EVH for "fatter" tones, and the JVM for the more thrashy stuff.

Again, I'm not trying to sound like a know-it-all here, but I actually have both of these amps in my possession and use them all the time... if you need help making a decision, feel free to contact me.

 

[Digital Jams]

Hey Jason, I only stated blender parts because that is what Danyeo calls them!!!!!

You and me bro, last standing from "the buy"...............

 

[thiswaythatway]

Hey Jason, I only stated blender parts because that is what Danyeo calls them!!!!!

You and me bro, last standing from "the buy"...............

Well where do you think all those millions of VCR's and cassette players went? Those teenagers in Malaysia can do great things with duct tape and a blow torch.

FWIW, I like the 210H more than the 410.

 

[amiller]

... STILL own this amp, even though Fortin modded it. Now I use is as my live amp, at it kicks all sort of ass.

I'm curious, why did you have Fortin mod the EVH 5150 III? What was the mod, how does it sound now...ball park price?

 

[jabps]

So far the consensus seems to bethat the jvm is the better amp?

NAh, I think the consensus is that those who have chimed in prefer the JVM. I think only the end user can determine whats better for their individual uses,preferences and style...

Well stated.

I've had my JVM for quite awhile now...absolutely the longest I have ever gone without gas. As many amps as I've been through...amazing that it has kept me happy but it has. I'll get a Cameron one day...only because it's one of the few amps I haven't owned or tried but it's not priority for me anymore.

I've done everything from full blown metal to Keith Urban style country sessions with the JVM. No complaints, I love it but it's not for everybody...as you stated, no amp is. Btw/ i love the 5153 as well...great amp.

 

[Junk Yard Dog]

I am also looking at the JVM and the 5153. The Fiddy and Hundy in both models. ...Someone also suggested a Splawn QR for my style/sound: AIC, GNR, Kravitz, Crows, COC, SRV.

 

[Audioholic]

I just ordered a 50 watt 5150 III, got a good price on it and can pay it off over time, so we shall see for me, can't wait to try it out and report back, clips and all!! I do seriously think the JVM is killer and hope to have one someday as well, loved it

 

[killertone]

Hey Jason, I only stated blender parts because that is what Danyeo calls them!!!!!

You and me bro, last standing from "the buy"...............

I know, I remember those threads from way back. Mine ain't going nowhere. Still a great amp alongside all my others.

 

[Gainfreak]

I've had both a JVM and a 5153 at the same time. The EVH has more of a liquid feel to channel 3. It's one ferocious channel. I hated channel 2!!!!!!!

The JVM is a good all around amp and can cover classic rock to metal, but isn't as saturated as the evh is. You can get it to sound good, but really, the amps two different beasts.

I'm going to try try to lay down the "facts" (yes, facts" here without trying to offend you. Please don't take anything I say as offensive, but I think I have some hands on experience here since I do own both of these amps, and I do record them several times a week as part of my recording career.

If you'd like, you can dial in channel 2 and channel 3 of the 5150 III to sound near identical, ESPECIALLY if you want to boost it. You just need the gain down on 3 and the gain up on 2 and a bit of play with the EQ. I even fooled the4thlast1 in a blind test, and even myself on a few occasions. While tonally they may sound different with all knobs at noon, the amp has a "sound" that kind of comes fill circle. I also used this amp on nearly every reamping job I did for nearly a year straight and STILL own this amp, even though Fortin modded it. Now I use is as my live amp, at it kicks all sort of ass.

Also, the JVM is probably the only amp in the word that has as much if not more gain and saturation than the EVH/original 5150 series amps. Both of those amps on the highest gain red channels can get so saturated its ridiculous. I have never run the gain higher than noon on my JVM red OD2 OR my EVH 5150 III, and that is WITHOUT a boost, WITH low output passives. I don't know why anyone would unless they were playing super "filthy" sounding music, and even then it would just feedback like crazy.

I will agree that the two amps have very different flavors. I would be EQUALLY happy with either, but I honestly prefer the EVH for "fatter" tones, and the JVM for the more thrashy stuff.

Again, I'm not trying to sound like a know-it-all here, but I actually have both of these amps in my possession and use them all the time... if you need help making a decision, feel free to contact me.

I think this is pretty spot on and I think that both amps are great (all IMHO).
I think the best thing for anyone interested in either of these amps is to go and play them in person. I also think its a good Idea to try and figure out what you actually need the amp to do for your playing style. With that said, I don't think you could go wrong either way IMHO.

 

[thiswaythatway]

I just played a JVM 210H. Safe to say that you can ditch your OD pedals when playing one of these right? Thing had soo much gain, but I liked the lead channel on Orange mode the best. Malaysian blender part jokes aside, I thought it sounded really good.

 

[mrkmas]

I just played a JVM 210H. Safe to say that you can ditch your OD pedals when playing one of these right? Thing had soo much gain, but I liked the lead channel on Orange mode the best. Malaysian blender part jokes aside, I thought it sounded really good.

Whenever I played one, I never needed any more OD than what the amp did like you said. It has so many flavors of OD on tap its crazy.

 

[thiswaythatway]

I just played a JVM 210H. Safe to say that you can ditch your OD pedals when playing one of these right? Thing had soo much gain, but I liked the lead channel on Orange mode the best. Malaysian blender part jokes aside, I thought it sounded really good.

Whenever I played one, I never needed any more OD than what the amp did like you said. It has so many flavors of OD on tap its crazy.

And I see the amp getting just trashed on TGP. I think they need to pull the Robben Ford dildo's out of their ear.

 

[Gainfreak]

I just played a JVM 210H. Safe to say that you can ditch your OD pedals when playing one of these right? Thing had soo much gain, but I liked the lead channel on Orange mode the best. Malaysian blender part jokes aside, I thought it sounded really good.

Yup, they are great amps. Ive said it from day one and never waivered lol

Some People will trash this amp because it's not your typical marshall and others will trash it based on the negative comments they heard through the grapevine lol.


Even though a boost is not needed, The amp will still take to one like a champ and it adds that liquidy sustain and feel that you get from a boost.
To many people still associate a boost with gain. Yes, it will most definitely add gain but a good boost will also hit the preamp tubes harder and along with the added boost, it adds a specific feel, snap and specific sound that you don't normally get without it.

Is the boost needed? NO, NO and NO. But if you like the feel and sustain a boost can add, then the amp will take to it like a champ which I cannot say all amps will

 

[mrkmas]

I just played a JVM 210H. Safe to say that you can ditch your OD pedals when playing one of these right? Thing had soo much gain, but I liked the lead channel on Orange mode the best. Malaysian blender part jokes aside, I thought it sounded really good.

Whenever I played one, I never needed any more OD than what the amp did like you said. It has so many flavors of OD on tap its crazy.

And I see the amp getting just trashed on TGP. I think they need to pull the Robben Ford dildo's out of their ear.

I am typing a paper for school and you just made me crack up laughing.

 

[mrkmas]

danyeo, Did you decide to pickup a JVM?

 

[aftec]

Had the JVM for about 4 years, replaced it with an 5153.
I did a lot of things to suit it to my needs (choke mod, different preamp and poweramp tubes, different cabs etc.) but it was always lacking. At gig levels it became quite stiff and it was either harsh or lost in the mix. The effects loop is faulty by design. Loosing 10% of volume with the loop engaged in series mode. The fix from Santiago (designer) is to lower the dry percentage until it matches, meaning you can basically forget modulation effects in the loop, squeal city using a Prorack G.
Favourites were Clean amber, Crunch red, OD1 Green/Orange, OD2 Orange for leads.
The OD channels in red mode are unusable with the gain above 12.
Then I plugged into an EVH 5153 with a matching cab, going back and forth with the JVM. Started selling the JVM the next day. I can do almost all sounds with channel 2 and the volume knob of the guitar, the more you crank it the better it sounds. End of story.