Kluson-type tuners with black buttons and Grover-style mounting?

[Rex Rocker]

Anyone know where I get can something like those?

I have a set of Gotoh Kluson-types, but they're using the push-on bushing. I need some with the modern Grover-type washer with a hex head bushing to fit the 10mm modern mounting hole of my Gibson.

I know Gibson used to put them in the LPJ's.

I mean these:

Anyone know where I can buy those or maybe something similar/better?

Thanks!

 

[Devin]

These look like the screw in type rather than the push-in type to me

Doesn't look like they offer the black buttons though....

https://www.kluson.com/kluson-3-per-side-vintage-diecast-series-tuning-machines-details.html

 

[Devin]

These say hex head bushing but it's black machines with black metal buttons lol

https://www.capitalmusicgear.com/Pr...Z6lm_rPQf0z25YgLGVd6FSslLNWzc3MBoCzsgQAvD_BwE

 

[Rex Rocker]

Thank you! I kinda want the black plastic keystone buttons, though. I'm kinda OCD about the look. I just really like the look of those on a Gibson headstock.

 

[Devin]

Looks like these are the ones you want but out of stock on this listing

Hopefully it'll at least give you an idea what set to look out for though

https://reverb.com/item/8438278-gui...style-3x3-tuners-black-keystone-button-chrome

 

[Devin]

I'd say you could just modify an existing set but my google-fu makes it seem like it's impossible to find push-on black plastic keystones by themselves

If you felt like buying two whole sets of tuners just for the buttons maybe you could confiscate the buttons off these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325584244323?var=514610127781&hash=item4bce554e63:g:jPUAAOSw~iJkGmQV&amdata=enc:AQAIAAAA8DDFveZ+u3YuKrd+pKoU2s5f4OfWqwpkL+o/WjqSx8ZTvNHWtqQtrNYxImdUJbkIJce+X5l2niZsVVcTCeK3iIGWlLSGVY3SyUOLFA48L0cuzmRVtrrhvNxVNdPOVcbGeBHXeSARSU8oz739VxG3QdH/1ahh8MbT2dA1pFCHdZkV7Zzz3oEL29qyKrmlpsCAfI4rCNpejo5ndZtq2EdINYgtejgtHh0wwB6ehop6Lv4FW8CwiXfjFj8gs6EzMXdXjFOOqT5+eAqvNXgR9MI/mv7riwuiKk/H8oisnnV5Uxk18wAJsrfcBosy2JMISIOAAA==|tkp:BFBM-MD-mMNi

 

[Rex Rocker]

Oh,

I'd say you could just modify an existing set but my google-fu makes it seem like it's impossible to find push-on black plastic keystones by themselves

I have a spare set of Grover Deluxe tuners with the horrible snot green button that I could sacrifice, LOL.

But is that even possible? Removing the black button without destroying it, I mean.

 

[Devin]

I've never done it personally but there's gotta be a way

Maybe if you heat up the tuner post with a soldering iron a bit it would make it easier to pull the button off?

You could tie some sort of pull string around the base of the button to yank it up and off

If you have a spare set you don't care about it would be worth a shot I reckon lol

 

[Rex Rocker]

The Stew Mac vid basically says to replace them, you have to destroy them.

 

[Devin]

This guy does it with a rigged up vice at 1:06 in the vid