Les Paul setup according to Joe ...

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I saw this the other day.. this guy is such a great musician and songwriter
check him out on Live from Daryl's House and he was playing through a solid state fender amp too
 
So refreshing to see a player grab a guitar, play it, then set it up without measuring with feeler gauges and rulers! Joe rules. He even gives us the key to playing Whole Lotta Love the right way!
 
cool... but i have to say , i hate when guys pull on the strings like that to stretch them, to me it ruins the strings, especially the wound strings, and can screw up your intonation. It can seperate the winds on the wounds strings easily which kills the life of the string, intonation, and takes that fresh snap out of the strings. For me I string the guitar and then play the guitar, bending the strings and strumming and chording, then retune, and repeat several time until the guitar is stable.

Joe walsh seems like a cool dude, cool videos though!
 
Someone needs to tell Joe he's been doing it wrong for all these years. Sheez.

I always pull my strings to seat them and I'm always in tune and my strings aren't ruined.

Thanks for the vids!
 
Keepin it real, keepin it simple.

And thanks for the A string trick for the Zep song Joe :thumbsup:
 
dawnofdreamx97":1ne7ic3n said:
cool... but i have to say , i hate when guys pull on the strings like that to stretch them, to me it ruins the strings, especially the wound strings, and can screw up your intonation. It can seperate the winds on the wounds strings easily which kills the life of the string, intonation, and takes that fresh snap out of the strings. For me I string the guitar and then play the guitar, bending the strings and strumming and chording, then retune, and repeat several time until the guitar is stable.

Joe walsh seems like a cool dude, cool videos though!
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For playing at home I completely agree. I want to extend the string life. When I was gigging though and I had maybe half an hour to an hour tops to make sure fresh strings would stay in tune I'd be a stretching the shit out of those things. ;)

Crap, It's only been around 34 years since I first heard Whole Lotta Love and after watching that vid I'll be playing it the right way for the first time :lol: :LOL:
 
Ive stretched strings for 35 years especially during string changes without an issue.
 
dawnofdreamx97":1smrciu0 said:
cool... but i have to say , i hate when guys pull on the strings like that to stretch them, to me it ruins the strings, especially the wound strings, and can screw up your intonation. It can seperate the winds on the wounds strings easily which kills the life of the string, intonation, and takes that fresh snap out of the strings. For me I string the guitar and then play the guitar, bending the strings and strumming and chording, then retune, and repeat several time until the guitar is stable.

Joe walsh seems like a cool dude, cool videos though!
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He wasn't trying to stretch the strings , Just to ensure that they aren't stuck in the nut or any slack between nut and tuner posts, or to make sure the strings are seated. Doing this and then re tuning and repeat then retune will ensure guitar stays in tune for long periods.
 
As a Les Paul player, knowing the trials and tribulations of related "Les Paul" tuning challenges, ahem, I always give my strings a thorough grab and slide up and down the neck when settling in for tuning. I have to. It's the only thing that keeps them bang on. Yank-and-pull, tune, yank-and-pull, tune - done. Easily lasts the night.
 
Ventura":2hjmzyf2 said:
As a Les Paul player, knowing the trials and tribulations of related "Les Paul" tuning challenges, ahem, I always give my strings a thorough grab and slide up and down the neck when settling in for tuning. I have to. It's the only thing that keeps them bang on. Yank-and-pull, tune, yank-and-pull, tune - done. Easily lasts the night.
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I'm finding on mine just doing allot of bends is all it needs. Bend each string up the neck,retune and repeat until it's stable. They stabilize on the third time for me usually. What's more important is how you wind the strings. I do a one wrap over and under with two wraps total on the wound strings and one over with four wraps total on the g,b,high e.
 
Ventura":11jpw1lm said:
As a Les Paul player, knowing the trials and tribulations of related "Les Paul" tuning challenges, ahem, I always give my strings a thorough grab and slide up and down the neck when settling in for tuning. I have to. It's the only thing that keeps them bang on. Yank-and-pull, tune, yank-and-pull, tune - done. Easily lasts the night.
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This is true. I don't know how many times I have seen guys blame and replace perfectly fine tuners, bridge etc because their lp won't stay in tune but if they would seat the strings before and retune they would in most cases be happy with results and save some $$ while at it.
 
joepete77":35414bjs said:
Ventura":35414bjs said:
As a Les Paul player, knowing the trials and tribulations of related "Les Paul" tuning challenges, ahem, I always give my strings a thorough grab and slide up and down the neck when settling in for tuning. I have to. It's the only thing that keeps them bang on. Yank-and-pull, tune, yank-and-pull, tune - done. Easily lasts the night.
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This is true. I don't know how many times I have seen guys blame and replace perfectly fine tuners, bridge etc because their lp won't stay in tune but if they would seat the strings before and retune they would in most cases be happy with results and save some $$ while at it.
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Yep - and the other 98% is usually nut related. Use some nutsauce, some soft lead pencil graphite, whatever. The nut is the key player in tuning a Lester; bending and seating the string is basically working with the string BEHIND the nut to ensure the tension is more or less equal on either side. Simple. The Les Paul is a stunning instrument, but due to its 17 degree head angle, and the string split angle, it is more susceptible to tuning twangs than other more refined systems. And if anyone starts piping up that Fender got it right, lest we forget they had to resort to "trees" to keep their strings in check ;)
 
Guys I'm not here to question what works for anyone if it works for you , cool! and especially not questioning Joe Walsh, the guy is a pro. I know a lot of guys who swear by stretching them, I just don't believe in it. I ran a professional music store for almost 8 years where I did repairs and spoke with string companies from a to z , I still do setups and repairs for customers. I have toured over 26 countries with my band as a guitarist and guitar tech and gig constantly. I know for me and my band, we don't stretch, major issues when we do, premature breaking, intonation problems, winds separate, and the strings don't last as long. I know that most times at the shop guys who stretched would come back with intonation problems a day or so later. A gentle tug may be ok, but I'm talking about YANKING on them that causes problems. I am of course well aware of the binding at the nut and bridge issue with Pauls....

I just played 30 show's in a row in Europe and was getting 3 or 4 shows out of a set of strings and between all 3 stringed instruments in the band we had ZERO strings break on the entire tour, where the other band was getting 1 or 2 hows out of their strings if they were lucky and they were constantly breaking strings, same string brand, very similar instruments, tuning, and style also. It wasn't from burs at the saddle or nut, the only difference was their tech stretched the strings heavily.

Anyhow, not looking for to start a shit show here, just stating my opinion and experience, and like I said before thanks for posting the videos they were cool, I dig Joe Walsh, surprised he wasn't playing his Carvins! haha
 
dawnofdreamx97":oonoe67p said:
Guys I'm not hear to question what works for anyone if it works for you , cool! and especially not questioning Joe Walsh, the guy is a pro. I know a lot of guys who swear by stretching them, I just don't believe in it. I ran a professional music store for almost 8 years where I did repairs and spoke with string companies from a to z , I still do setups and repairs for customers. I have toured over 26 countries with my band as a guitarist and guitar tech and gig constantly. I know for me and my band, we don't stretch, major issues when we do, premature breaking, intonation problems, winds separate, and the strings don't last as long. I know that most times at the shop guys who stretched would come back with intonation problems a day or so later. A gentle tug may be ok, but I'm talking about YANKING on them that causes problems. I am of course well aware of the binding at the nut and bridge issue with Pauls....

I just played 30 show's in a row in Europe and was getting 3 or 4 shows out of a set of strings, where the other band was getting 1 or 2 if they were lucky.

Anyhow, not looking for to start a shit show here, just stating my opinion and experience, and like I said before thanks for posting the videos they were cool, I dig Joe Walsh, surprised he wasn't playing his Carvins! haha
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Just talking about a gentle tug here man. Not yanking it. Yes, I'm still talking about strings. ;)
 
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