Lesson Learned - Cab Shipment

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Can't tell you how stoked I was to finally get my uberkab at my doorstep. Shipped back from Alaska after a long wait in a storage unit. But as I was unboxing, I heard.. hell, I felt something very odd. A symphony of gut-wrenching thuds and scrapes. Not good. I screwed those greenies in, right?? Well, I pulled the cover off (My uber is the front loaded version, though the speaker were loaded in the rear) and I see two gaping holes where vintage greenback speakers should be. I pulled the back off and this is what I found.



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It ripped two of the speakers out, pulling the mounts with them and did some minor damage around the holes, as you can further see below.



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Buzzkill. The movers have to have seriously slammed this thing something fierce to make this happen. Greenbacks, as I'm sure most of us have noticed, aren't particularly heavy speakers. Fortunately, I pack my gear for war externally, so it's still pristine on the outside. But the thought of internal damage had never crossed my mind in a cab.

Fortunately, I was able to re-install the mounts without much issue. But you can bet I'll be taking extra precaution when shipping cabs in the future when applicable. In the case of this particular cab, studs aren't present as they would be in say, a Mills Afterburner. Bogner provides mounts (in this particular model) that require a screw to be inserted. The screws provided supply a bit of overhang on the other side, which I installed a washer, lock washer and wing nut on. Not the prettiest, when uncovered. But would no doubt provide some much needed rigidity in shipment. Example below.



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Much mo' better!



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I can't figure out what would cause this. Either way, glad all is well.

Good tip for shipping. Focus on the internal as much as the external.
 
If you are worried about the mounts not being 100% secure (as far as not holding the speakers flush against the mounting surface), you could slightly rotate your speakers and drill new holes. The old holes could be hidden / filled, with silicone caulk.

Looks pretty sturdy to me, though.
 
OUTLAW1969":x18simkg said:
If you are worried about the mounts not being 100% secure (as far as not holding the speakers flush against the mounting surface), you could slightly rotate your speakers and drill new holes. The old holes could be hidden / filled, with silicone caulk.

Looks pretty sturdy to me, though.

For this, I am grateful for Wizard 20's. A situation with much need of your recommendation; though for different reasons was implemented with another cab. Additional holes seem to be standard for Wizards.

The frames didn't appear to be tweaked on these particular speakers though. Just popped the mounts right out and worked others loose. You can see from the pictures that they probably cant handle much weight on their back side, anyway. They're basically glorified staples. I figure they probably weren't designed with that sort of integrity in mind, being that it's a front loaded design and this wouldn't have happened if the speakers were mounted as such. But still..
 
xXDaveyJonesXx":qvofbrr3 said:
Can't tell you how stoked I was to finally get my uberkab at my doorstep. Shipped back from Alaska after a long wait in a storage unit. But as I was unboxing, I heard.. hell, I felt something very odd. A symphony of gut-wrenching thuds and scrapes. Not good. I screwed those greenies in, right?? Well, I pulled the cover off (My uber is the front loaded version, though the speaker were loaded in the rear) and I see two gaping holes where vintage greenback speakers should be. I pulled the back off and this is what I found.



IMG_6680_zps713e50ce.jpg




It ripped two of the speakers out, pulling the mounts with them and did some minor damage around the holes, as you can further see below.



IMG_6685_zps0db23e29.jpg





Buzzkill. The movers have to have seriously slammed this thing something fierce to make this happen. Greenbacks, as I'm sure most of us have noticed, aren't particularly heavy speakers. Fortunately, I pack my gear for war externally, so it's still pristine on the outside. But the thought of internal damage had never crossed my mind in a cab.

Fortunately, I was able to re-install the mounts without much issue. But you can bet I'll be taking extra precaution when shipping cabs in the future when applicable. In the case of this particular cab, studs aren't present as they would be in say, a Mills Afterburner. Bogner provides mounts (in this particular model) that require a screw to be inserted. The screws provided supply a bit of overhang on the other side, which I installed a washer, lock washer and wing nut on. Not the prettiest, when uncovered. But would no doubt provide some much needed rigidity in shipment. Example below.



IMG_6686_zps52062619.jpg




Much mo' better!



IMG_6687_zps4d98bdbd.jpg
The reason they fell out is because the mounts are on the wrong side of the board. They would be fine if the speaker were front loaded. When you rear loaded them, the mounts should have been installed on the opposite side.The two tabs you see on the mount are for the purpose of keeping the mount in place when the bolt is removed, not for the purpose of bearing the load.
Glad it didn't mess up your cab any worse than that. My X'ed out Uber is the best cab I have ever had.
 
voodooradio1":29lip9kc said:
The reason they fell out is because the mounts are on the wrong side of the board. They would be fine if the speaker were front loaded. When you rear loaded them, the mounts should have been installed on the opposite side.The two tabs you see on the mount are for the purpose of keeping the mount in place when the bolt is removed, not for the purpose of bearing the load.


Yeah, that's the conclusion I've recently came to as well. I'll definitely be reinforcing this cab if it ever goes on a trek like that again. I'm impressed it handled the trip from AZ to AK so well, now that I think about it.
 
Yep, I was just gonna point out the T nuts should be on the opposite side of the baffle from the speaker,or they would not have popped out. Lucky there wasn't more damage !!
 
Dave K":1tmqe64g said:
Yep, I was just gonna point out the T nuts should be on the opposite side of the baffle from the speaker,or they would not have popped out. Lucky there wasn't more damage !!

Lucky, indeed. So is FedEx.
 
whoever rear loaded a front loaded cab WITHOUT reversing the T Nuts is the one to blame here. It wouldn't take much at all to pull those speakers off the baffle.

If this was a gigging cab, simply rolling this in and out of a venue over time would have done the same thing.

You don't bolt a speaker in on the same side as the T nuts, lol. The ONLY thing keeping those speakers secured to the baffle were the teeth in those T Nuts. You could have easily just pulled those speakers right out of the enclosure by hand.
IMO the cab arriving like this now only served to speed the up the inevitability of it happening sometime.

EDIT

Doh, should have read the thread...Someone already pointed this out.
 
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