All the patches used for your noodling sound terrible as usual, David. Not!
You are absolutely right and I apologize. Sorry!
Now... a bit of thinking...
Truth is a lot of people, most of then, don't know what the delivered potential of their gear already IS, without even talking about programming.
By "delivered" I mean what's already available to the end user, without even touching the Edit button. So factory presets!
Take the PCM80/81. The whole factory presets amount tops at 760 among internal presets, algorithms cards and presets cards.
That's a pretty big number of programs, covering a lot of ground. 1000 presets on a fully expanded Eventide H3000/3500. Close to 2000 on an Orville or H8000... so much stuff in there you won't believe!
How many time in years of use we discover a simple factory preset that does something we once needed and didn't know it was there, in front of us? So... know your tools well, right?
In these few examples are some great presets.... the OrbitLes Chorus is amazing at replicating Gilmour's Doppola leslies and Yamaha RA-200 speakers... not an easy efx to program! No Quarter? That fast vibrato/tremolo/autopanning from "Houses of the Holy" is another classic one.
And the PCM42s chorus and delays tweaks are excellent too. Those are there, on the card. No need to program, maybe just a light tweak to fit personal taste or needs but that's it.
I really suggest folks to go thru their gear presets and check what you already have available. Make some notes about your findings and you'll have what you need/when you need it. Forgetting is very easy!