Looking for an ultimate multi channel amp. Help me

[bulletride]

I am going to sell my peavey 5150 and dual recto to get a multi channel amp.

I am considering vh4 or colossus. I played vh4 before. It was great. But, I felt it's a little bit compressed.

I never played colossus. But, from the clips it's pretty similar to vh4. Tons of gain and refined gain structure.

Maybe colossus has more open sounding. Am I right? I need some opinions who tried both amps. Thanks

 

[Racerxrated]

I am going to sell my peavey 5150 and dual recto to get a multi channel amp.

I am considering vh4 or colossus. I played vh4 before. It was great. But, I felt it's a little bit compressed.

I never played colossus. But, from the clips it's pretty similar to vh4. Tons of gain and refined gain structure.

Maybe colossus has more open sounding. Am I right? I need some opinions who tried both amps. Thanks

Maybe throw a JP2C in the mix? Really a killer amp that is WAY less than the VH4. Nothing against Diezel or Rhodes.

 

[bulletride]

Thanks. I'll check it out jp2c

 

[gtr31]

KSR makes killer amps
If you like the Vh4 sound but want something
Less compressed and warmer try out
The PRS Archon it has a similar punch to the mids
Also Peters amp are versatile and have a great growl

Then of course the more mainstream Mesa EVH etc

 

[GOHOINC]

Bogner Ecstasy /end

 

[FourT6and2]

Yeah, KSR stuff is great.

If you like the VH4, but don't want a VH4, but also want lots of MIDI options and versatility (like the VH4), then KSR is the hard to beat.

 

[mooncobra]

fortin, isn't he building his amps again?

 

[Deleted member 22177]

Fortin Meathead

 

[firegate]

The SigX might be worth a look. They're going for next to nothing on the used market and are absolutely killer amps.

 

[negaodapicona]

Bogner Ecstasy /end

I use to think like this until I play it.
I can't stand with the "blanket" that Bogner's amps have in front of speakers.
There is a volume diference between the channel 2/3 too.

 

[Marshall Freak]

Bogner Ecstasy /end

I use to think like this until I play it.
I can't stand with the "blanket" that Bogner's amps have in front of speakers.
There is a volume diference between the channel 2/3 too.

Thry have seperate volumes for each channel. ????

 

[Fox77]

Played both the VH4 and Colossus with the same guitar and through the same cab. I only paid attention to the clean and rhythm channels and for me, the Colossus sounded better in both.

The VH4 sounded great and very tight but also a bit dry. The Colossus was "greasier" as in it felt more fun to play.

 

[paulyc]

I think more info about intended use and what style of music you're going to use it for would be in order here for a more accurate recommendation...

 

[bulletride]

Thanks for the reply guys. I play mostly metal. From 80s to brutal metal. But, I play bluesy or jazzy musics too. So, thats why I want a versatile amp. Dual recto can be versatile sure. But, It's difficult to attain jazzy tone.

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

I am going to sell my peavey 5150 and dual recto to get a multi channel amp.

I am considering vh4 or colossus. I played vh4 before. It was great. But, I felt it's a little bit compressed.

I never played colossus. But, from the clips it's pretty similar to vh4. Tons of gain and refined gain structure.

Maybe colossus has more open sounding. Am I right? I need some opinions who tried both amps. Thanks

Multi-channel amps are all about compromises and what you are willing to accept.

The VH4 is probably the single most compressed high-gain channel switcher on the market. It's also a little too dark and lacking upper mids for my taste. Other than that, it's built like a tank and is super flexible. Arguably one of the most flexible, best built, and the fx loops are some of the best designs going: transparent and no tone suckage.

The Rhodes Colossus is a nice amp with plenty of features but the bottom end was to harsh and soft/spongy no matter what you try to dial in. Not tight and percussive enough for me. Other than that they are also buil really well... But I prefer the the transparency of the VH4 fx loop if your an fx junky.

Some others you may want to look into are the Marshall JVM410, Engl SE/Invader, Fryette CLX/UL.

Some mentioned the Bogner XTC, which will cover clean, country, blues up to hard rock. It won't do metal even with a boost. The voicing and low end won't handle it IMHO.

 

[negaodapicona]

ENGL SE670, but the Master Volume is unusable.
It is versatile and loud as hell.
The volume on 01 and your ears starts to bleed.
I has an amazing dynamics on the knobs, when you deal with another amp just after you think the knobs were broken.

 

[FourT6and2]

I am going to sell my peavey 5150 and dual recto to get a multi channel amp.

I am considering vh4 or colossus. I played vh4 before. It was great. But, I felt it's a little bit compressed.

I never played colossus. But, from the clips it's pretty similar to vh4. Tons of gain and refined gain structure.

Maybe colossus has more open sounding. Am I right? I need some opinions who tried both amps. Thanks

Multi-channel amps are all about compromises and what you are willing to accept.

The VH4 is probably the single most compressed high-gain channel switcher on the market. It's also a little too dark and lacking upper mids for my taste. Other than that, it's built like a tank and is super flexible. Arguably one of the most flexible, best built, and the fx loops are some of the best designs going: transparent and no tone suckage.

The Rhodes Colossus is a nice amp with plenty of features but the bottom end was to harsh and soft/spongy no matter what you try to dial in. Not tight and percussive enough for me. Other than that they are also buil really well... But I prefer the the transparency of the VH4 fx loop if your an fx junky.

Some others you may want to look into are the Marshall JVM410, Engl SE/Invader, Fryette CLX/UL.

Some mentioned the Bogner XTC, which will cover clean, country, blues up to hard rock. It won't do metal even with a boost. The voicing and low end won't handle it IMHO.

The KSR Gemini is tighter and more aggressive from what I hear. And it still has tons of MIDI flexibility. My Ares is tighter, more aggressive, and punchier than the VH4 I had. The VH4's loops are awesome, for sure. No complaints on my Ares' loop though. It has send/return level control. The VH4 doesn't But the VH4 does have both a series and a parallel loop. But no independent signal controls.

 

[GOHOINC]

Bogner Ecstasy /end

I use to think like this until I play it.
I can't stand with the "blanket" that Bogner's amps have in front of speakers.
There is a volume diference between the channel 2/3 too.

Thry have seperate volumes for each channel. ????

Exactly, if finding the tone you want isnt worth taking the time to dial it in then youre screwed... I dont know of any amp ever made that out of the box with no dial time sounds perfect.

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

ENGL SE670, but the Master Volume is unusable.
It is versatile and loud as hell.
The volume on 01 and your ears starts to bleed.
I has an amazing dynamics on the knobs, when you deal with another amp just after you think the knobs were broken.

I'll will second that emotion.

Definitely my favorite channel switching high-gain amp by a large margin... and I've owned a few.

The SE670 EL34 will do everything from clean to mean and everything in-between... and nail even the heaviest black, death, and industrial metal. The clean is above average, the crunch is good, and the 2 high gain channels are excellent. The loops are amazing as well, and everything is super tweak-able, and most everything is midi controllable. Win win.

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

I am going to sell my peavey 5150 and dual recto to get a multi channel amp.

I am considering vh4 or colossus. I played vh4 before. It was great. But, I felt it's a little bit compressed.

I never played colossus. But, from the clips it's pretty similar to vh4. Tons of gain and refined gain structure.

Maybe colossus has more open sounding. Am I right? I need some opinions who tried both amps. Thanks

Multi-channel amps are all about compromises and what you are willing to accept.

The VH4 is probably the single most compressed high-gain channel switcher on the market. It's also a little too dark and lacking upper mids for my taste. Other than that, it's built like a tank and is super flexible. Arguably one of the most flexible, best built, and the fx loops are some of the best designs going: transparent and no tone suckage.

The Rhodes Colossus is a nice amp with plenty of features but the bottom end was to harsh and soft/spongy no matter what you try to dial in. Not tight and percussive enough for me. Other than that they are also buil really well... But I prefer the the transparency of the VH4 fx loop if your an fx junky.

Some others you may want to look into are the Marshall JVM410, Engl SE/Invader, Fryette CLX/UL.

Some mentioned the Bogner XTC, which will cover clean, country, blues up to hard rock. It won't do metal even with a boost. The voicing and low end won't handle it IMHO.

The KSR Gemini is tighter and more aggressive from what I hear. And it still has tons of MIDI flexibility. My Ares is tighter, more aggressive, and punchier than the VH4 I had. The VH4's loops are awesome, for sure. No complaints on my Ares' loop though. It has send/return level control. The VH4 doesn't But the VH4 does have both a series and a parallel loop. But no independent signal controls.

Yes and no. The Gemini is a bit more aggressive sounding, but it has the same amount of gain on paper as the Colossus. Just a stripped down version. Still lacks the tight, percussive low end I prefer (as well as many others) for metal. I haven't tried the Ares yet... but I tend to favor 100-150W tube heads for the headroom and ballsier lowend from the extra power.