Lower or Higher wattage speakers for the Modern Classic

[glip22]

Which do you use? I am currently running four 100 watt scumbacks with my MC. I am wondering if going to lower wattage speakers will give me a tighter distortion. I love the openess of the amp but sometimes prefer a little more compression for higher gain. I am wondering if changing the speakers will achieve this before I purchase and yet again lose on the resale. Also, will lower wattage speakers be more prone to cone cry?

 

[Ampaddict]

I think the amp was developed w/ greenbacks in mind. Pre-rola's are great! I also have had luck w/ 65's and V30's.

 

[glip22]

Thanks Todd. I was thinking about greenbacks but I am worried about the cone cry. I seem to always find one or two notes in the higher registers that cry like a pig.

 

[Superunknown]

I'm using Weber 1225's 25 Watt, Scumback M75 65 Watt, & EVH Heritage Greenbacks 25 Watt with my MC. All sound really good and all are very different from each other.....

 

[glip22]

I'm using Weber 1225's 25 Watt, Scumback M75 65 Watt, & EVH Heritage Greenbacks 25 Watt with my MC. All sound really good and all are very different from each other.....

Which would you recommend for a little more of a modern high gain tone? How do the lower wattage speaker's breakup affect the tone? I have always used 100 watt speakers with any amp I have owned.
Thanks!

 

[Ampaddict]

I like a dark speaker w/ my Wizards like the Celestion 65's.

 

[Superunknown]

I'm using Weber 1225's 25 Watt, Scumback M75 65 Watt, & EVH Heritage Greenbacks 25 Watt with my MC. All sound really good and all are very different from each other.....

Which would you recommend for a little more of a modern high gain tone? How do the lower wattage speaker's breakup affect the tone? I have always used 100 watt speakers with any amp I have owned.
Thanks!

It terms of the most saturation/gain and the getting a modern type of tone, the "Stan Spec" Weber 1225's would be my choice, followed by the EVH speakers, then the Scumbacks. The Scumbacks are incredible and have a very sweet midrange, but to my ear have a little less saturation (probably because of the enahnced mids). The Webers and EVH speakers are a bit more scooped by comparison, but sound great as well. Sometimes I mix the Webers with the Scumbacks which is a really nice combo.

The wattage and speaker breakup are really nice with my lower wattage Greenbacks (Weber, EVH). No cone cry at all....

 

[glip22]

Appreciate the input. I'm checking out the 1225's and the 65's.

 

[Tone Merchant]

Ive gotten the best results w/ the scumbacks M75s so far

 

[glip22]

Ive gotten the best results w/ the scumbacks M75s so far

Thanks Rob, What wattage on the M75's?

 

[sswanson]

I'm using Weber 1225's 25 Watt, Scumback M75 65 Watt, & EVH Heritage Greenbacks 25 Watt with my MC. All sound really good and all are very different from each other.....

Which would you recommend for a little more of a modern high gain tone? How do the lower wattage speaker's breakup affect the tone? I have always used 100 watt speakers with any amp I have owned.
Thanks!

I have a quad of Scumback M75HPLHDC's-65 watt speakers (Celestion G12-65's). I use them with my Metal. They are similar to the greenbacks but with a beefed up low end and the top end seems a little bit smoother to me as well. If you were looking for a "little more of a modern tone" I would definitely check them out.

 

[glip22]

I have an M and H LHDC 100 watts. I had them mixed with an M&H regular dust covers and the small dust covers were crying under heavy gain. I'm considering all of the recommendations. Thanks for the input.

 

[Tone Merchant]

they are the 65 watters. Im going to get a quad of the 100 watters to test out and a/b

 

[glip22]

they are the 65 watters. Im going to get a quad of the 100 watters to test out and a/b

Thanks Rob, I think I am siding with the M's also. I did some a/b's with the H's and I prefered the M's. They just have a woodier tone to them. Only problem is I now need three more M- LHDC and Jim told me it's at least a month lead time now. I have an H-LHDC, and an H and M regular dust cap to unload now. I was considering lower wattage speakers when I started the post.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

tone tubby ceramic. 50 watts ultra smooth and tight. handle any bass you throw at em and cant sound icepicky.

 

[glip22]

Ordered up a Vintage 12-65 and a Heriatage to try out. I also tried EVM 12L Classics. They way overpowered the Scumbacks in the cab. If the 65's don't cut it, I'll wait for the M's. and call it a day.

 

[thegame]

I love the openess of the amp but sometimes prefer a little more compression for higher gain. I am wondering if changing the speakers will achieve this before I purchase and yet again lose on the resale.

I know what you mean and recommend hitting the amp with a clean boost or tube screamer for added compression. Wizards are very uncompressed amps !

 

[glip22]

I love the openess of the amp but sometimes prefer a little more compression for higher gain. I am wondering if changing the speakers will achieve this before I purchase and yet again lose on the resale.

I know what you mean and recommend hitting the amp with a clean boost or tube screamer for added compression. Wizards are very uncompressed amps !

I use a Bloody Murder OD with the gain at about 20%. It does work well and tightens the amp up. It seems some guys are running their MC's with the gain at 10 with the boost pulled. I prefer the OD in front and run the gain on 7 or so.
Thanks.

 

[joshsage]

I love the openess of the amp but sometimes prefer a little more compression for higher gain. I am wondering if changing the speakers will achieve this before I purchase and yet again lose on the resale.

I know what you mean and recommend hitting the amp with a clean boost or tube screamer for added compression. Wizards are very uncompressed amps !

I use a Bloody Murder OD with the gain at about 20%. It does work well and tightens the amp up. It seems some guys are running their MC's with the gain at 10 with the boost pulled. I prefer the OD in front and run the gain on 7 or so.
Thanks.

I run them with the gain at about 11 oclock no boost engaged, no boost in front, CRANKED. I really like the clarity I get from them.
Josh

 

[glip22]

I love the openess of the amp but sometimes prefer a little more compression for higher gain. I am wondering if changing the speakers will achieve this before I purchase and yet again lose on the resale.

I know what you mean and recommend hitting the amp with a clean boost or tube screamer for added compression. Wizards are very uncompressed amps !

I use a Bloody Murder OD with the gain at about 20%. It does work well and tightens the amp up. It seems some guys are running their MC's with the gain at 10 with the boost pulled. I prefer the OD in front and run the gain on 7 or so.
Thanks.

I run them with the gain at about 11 oclock no boost engaged, no boost in front, CRANKED. I really like the clarity I get from them.
Josh

How cranked? No wonder you are 1/2 deaf? Does the trim in the volume pot of the MC basically open full at about 1/2? My Cornford is like that too. I wonder if when I crank it higher I am already at the max of what my ears can handle, so I do not perceive much more volume the higher I go with the dial.