Lynch still has it!!

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rupe":1vaoar9z said:
carlygtr":1vaoar9z said:
BMoore77":1vaoar9z said:
carlygtr":1vaoar9z said:
TrueTone500":1vaoar9z said:
Players like Peter Frampton, Kerry Livgren, Don Henley, Warren DiMartini, Michael Schenker, Randy Rhoads, Joe Walsh and David Gilmour are all known for their solo 'phrasing' abilities... George Lynch is a very talented player, but what memorable solo 'phrase' has he ever written?

None, cause all his solos resemble "noodling". A bunch of flash shit strung together. Not lyrical at all.

Couldnt agree less. Lyrical as hell.

Really? what tune?
Alone Again for starters

the entire Back For The Attack album. How about "The Hunter"? Case closed
 
I think it was said best back in the day (Reb Beach I think )
That all George Lynchs solos sounded like he was on fire !!
He had wicked vibrato , phrasing tone choice of notes ect !!
Yes I still think he is awesome but most of his songwriting lacks IMHO !
I do think that Smoke N Mirrors has like 4 good tunes the rest does nothing for me .
As far as his new deal Kxfm what I have heard is not my thing I liked the drums better then the rest .
Don't get me wrong I'm a die hard Lynch fan !!
Just think he is always spitting stuff out that is mediocre at best because I think he is capable of much better .
I can't even count how many times I have seen him and with how many lineups !
My fav was either Kelly Keeling on vocal or maybe ONI ?
Back in the early to mid 80's I think Don was killer they blew Aerosmith away when they opened for them inmo .
Oh and the drummer from bullet boys played with George n wow that dude rocks !!
Was doing some crazy heal toe double bass stuff !!

Bottom line he is still George Lynch !!!
Like him or not !!!
 
George Lynch wrote some good music, but nothing I'd consider transcendental. Would you place Dokken among the ranks of Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, The Who, Boston, Fleetwood Mac, Heart, Queen, Thin Lizzy, etc...? No way!

The hair bands of the 80's were basically glorified bar bands with big $ production. It was great titty bar music, but that's about it. There's specific music for specific situations... I don't frequent titty bars these days, so I have no desire to hear the stylings of Motley Crue, Dokken, RATT, Black N' Blue, Tesla, White Lion, Winger, Vixen, Poison, Cinderella, Skid Row, Warrant, Quit Riot, GNR, etc...
 
Personally I enjoy all types of music. 70's rock..50's....surf....Death metal...etc.
But its all about right mood right time for anything to sound good. :thumbsup:
 
TrueTone500":308vt37b said:
George Lynch wrote some good music, but nothing I'd consider transcendental. Would you place Dokken among the ranks of Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, The Who, Boston, Fleetwood Mac, Heart, Queen, Thin Lizzy, etc...? No way!

The hair bands of the 80's were basically glorified bar bands with big $ production. It was great titty bar music, but that's about it. There's specific music for specific situations... I don't frequent titty bars these days, so I have no desire to hear the stylings of Motley Crue, Dokken, RATT, Black N' Blue, Tesla, White Lion, Winger, Vixen, Poison, Cinderella, Skid Row, Warrant, Quit Riot, GNR, etc...


Nice bit of reductionism... not sure which "titty bars" you have been too lately but they play rap/hip hop now fwiw
 
I just said to my friend Mark last week; "I'll bet the strip clubs are playing nothing but hip-hop now."
 
TrueTone500":2y7y8jpe said:
George Lynch wrote some good music, but nothing I'd consider transcendental. Would you place Dokken among the ranks of Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, The Who, Boston, Fleetwood Mac, Heart, Queen, Thin Lizzy, etc...? No way!

The hair bands of the 80's were basically glorified bar bands with big $ production. It was great titty bar music, but that's about it. There's specific music for specific situations... I don't frequent titty bars these days, so I have no desire to hear the stylings of Motley Crue, Dokken, RATT, Black N' Blue, Tesla, White Lion, Winger, Vixen, Poison, Cinderella, Skid Row, Warrant, Quit Riot, GNR, etc...

Depends on who you ask, some those bands in the first list do nothing for me and influenced less in the world of hard rock and metal guitar...which I believe has some of the most die hard dedicated fans in the world...here it is all these years later and there are huge fan bases for them, and the ones with great guitar and songs continue to to inspire.

Also, your list of "hair bands"......wow some of those bands don't even deserve to be listed in the same breath or league as the others and you lump them together like you have no idea what you're talkin' about......stand outs like Tesla which is a GREAT hard rock band(they were never a hair band, like AT ALL great song writing and musicians), Dokken, GnR.....do you really think that's the same as poison and Warrant and Vixen? You lose serious cred if you do. I don't agree with your blanket statement here. Each of those bands have different levels of fan bases, popularity, inluence and talent. Go check out Tesla's The Great Radio Controversy and actually listen, talk about a great album.......don't tell me that and cherry pie is the same shit.
 
Purpleibby":2lsxme48 said:
TrueTone500":2lsxme48 said:
George Lynch wrote some good music, but nothing I'd consider transcendental. Would you place Dokken among the ranks of Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, The Who, Boston, Fleetwood Mac, Heart, Queen, Thin Lizzy, etc...? No way!

The hair bands of the 80's were basically glorified bar bands with big $ production. It was great titty bar music, but that's about it. There's specific music for specific situations... I don't frequent titty bars these days, so I have no desire to hear the stylings of Motley Crue, Dokken, RATT, Black N' Blue, Tesla, White Lion, Winger, Vixen, Poison, Cinderella, Skid Row, Warrant, Quit Riot, GNR, etc...

Depends on who you ask, some those bands in the first list do nothing for me and influenced less in the world of hard rock and metal guitar...which I believe has some of the most die hard dedicated fans in the world...here it is all these years later and there are huge fan bases for them, and the ones with great guitar and songs continue to to inspire.

Also, your list of "hair bands"......wow some of those bands don't even deserve to be listed in the same breath or league as the others and you lump them together like you have no idea what you're talkin' about......stand outs like Tesla which is a GREAT hard rock band(they were never a hair band, like AT ALL great song writing and musicians), Dokken, GnR.....do you really think that's the same as poison and Warrant and Vixen? You lose serious cred if you do. I don't agree with your blanket statement here. Each of those bands have different levels of fan bases, popularity, inluence and talent. Go check out Tesla's The Great Radio Controversy and actually listen, talk about a great album.......don't tell me that and cherry pie is the same shit.
Yeah.....trying to compare Warrant and Vixen to Zepplin and Queen.... :confused: :lol: :LOL:
2 different styles....eras...etc. Some days I would rather listen to Warrant then Queen. But it all depends what I want to hear that time or whats sounding fresh to me.
Thats like saying Sabbath is nothing like Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly. Not even in the same league. :gethim:
Yeah....no shit. :lol: :LOL:
 
Looks like the KXM album sold 9800 copies in its first week, which is pretty impressive, all things considered.

Billboard Debut

#31 Billboard top 200
#3 Independent Releases
#7 Top Rock Albums
#1 Hard Rock Music Chart
#6 iTunes Rock Albums
#1 Amazon Hard Rock


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There is very little MTV era music I can listen to these days without literally feeling ill. I liked some songs of that era, but not very many. I can't say it's an anti-80's thing... In only 2 albums worth of material, Randy Rhoads is right up there with the likes of Michael Schenker, Gary Moore, Ritchie Blackmore, Luther Grosvenor (possibly Randy's biggest influence).

F#ck it! I like what I like... Post '83 era area rock for the most part sucks ass IMO. Teeny-bopper f#ckhead music for a Pepsi generation. I'd probably have more respect for George Lynch these days if he hadn't dressed like Pat Benatar, but that's another issue altogether... He's in great shape, has great hair, and a great tan... What's not to like? He's like the George Hamilton of guitar! Just kidding... Love ya babe! ;)

Dedicated to Randy Rhoads...
 
TrueTone500":3hxfwhex said:
There is very little MTV era music I can listen to these days without literally feeling ill. I liked some songs of that era, but not very many. I can't say it's an anti-80's thing... In only 2 albums worth of material, Randy Rhoads is right up there with the likes of Michael Schenker, Gary Moore, Ritchie Blackmore, Luther Grosvenor (possibly Randy's biggest influence).

F#ck it! I like what I like... Post '83 era area rock for the most part sucks ass IMO. Teeny-bopper f#ckhead music for a Pepsi generation. I'd probably have more respect for George Lynch these days if he hadn't dressed like Pat Benatar, but that's another issue altogether... He's in great shape, has great hair, and a great tan... What's not to like? He's like the George Hamilton of guitar! Just kidding... Love ya babe! ;)

Dedicated to Randy Rhoads...

Im just the opposite. I think it was the greatest era for rock guitar. Yes, I just said that. :rock:
 
How can one not like 80's rock and still find enjoyment with logging into RigTalk? :lol: :LOL:
 
Purpleibby":2vp2jhka said:
BMoore77":2vp2jhka said:
carlygtr":2vp2jhka said:
TrueTone500":2vp2jhka said:
Players like Peter Frampton, Kerry Livgren, Don Henley, Warren DiMartini, Michael Schenker, Randy Rhoads, Joe Walsh and David Gilmour are all known for their solo 'phrasing' abilities... George Lynch is a very talented player, but what memorable solo 'phrase' has he ever written?

None, cause all his solos resemble "noodling". A bunch of flash shit strung together. Not lyrical at all.

Couldnt agree less. Lyrical as hell.
+1000


+10000000000 .

Unchain the Night ,The Hunter freaking Slipping Away Anything off Under Lock and Back for the attack if you want noodling look to the 70s with 10 minute leads
 
Yeah, he's real lyrical LOL IMO every solo is some practice technique he stuck into a song, and it sounds like it. The best 70's guys could IMPROVISE. Something George forgot to incorporate into his style. He had his day. Unfortunately, the 80's are over. Never to return as most was dogshit. Will never span generations and have the longevity of 60's and 70's music.

George, who basically has nothing left to say on guitar, just rehashes the same old shit, looking like an old man trying to be 25 again. Like when Ali fought his sparring partner Larry Holmes and nearly got killed. Playing 80's material in small bars like a washed up chump.
 
TrueTone500":2g6ohn2a said:
George Lynch wrote some good music, but nothing I'd consider transcendental. Would you place Dokken among the ranks of Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, The Who, Boston, Fleetwood Mac, Heart, Queen, Thin Lizzy, etc...? No way!

The hair bands of the 80's were basically glorified bar bands with big $ production. It was great titty bar music, but that's about it. There's specific music for specific situations... I don't frequent titty bars these days, so I have no desire to hear the stylings of Motley Crue, Dokken, RATT, Black N' Blue, Tesla, White Lion, Winger, Vixen, Poison, Cinderella, Skid Row, Warrant, Quit Riot, GNR, etc...

+2
(.)(.)
 
carlygtr":2rf89nwb said:
Yeah, he's real lyrical LOL IMO every solo is some practice technique he stuck into a song, and it sounds like it. The best 70's guys could IMPROVISE. Something George forgot to incorporate into his style. He had his day. Unfortunately, the 80's are over. Never to return as most was dogshit. Will never span generations and have the longevity of 60's and 70's music.

George, who basically has nothing left to say on guitar, just rehashes the same old shit, looking like an old man trying to be 25 again. Like when Ali fought his sparring partner Larry Holmes and nearly got killed. Playing 80's material in small bars like a washed up chump.

I dont know...I kind of understand your point..however, the bar was raised in the eighties as far as technique and not playing the same pentatonic licks over a 30 minute jam...Which will bore even the most patient audience member to tears after awhile.
 
BMoore77":30tst5u1 said:
carlygtr":30tst5u1 said:
Yeah, he's real lyrical LOL IMO every solo is some practice technique he stuck into a song, and it sounds like it. The best 70's guys could IMPROVISE. Something George forgot to incorporate into his style. He had his day. Unfortunately, the 80's are over. Never to return as most was dogshit. Will never span generations and have the longevity of 60's and 70's music.

George, who basically has nothing left to say on guitar, just rehashes the same old shit, looking like an old man trying to be 25 again. Like when Ali fought his sparring partner Larry Holmes and nearly got killed. Playing 80's material in small bars like a washed up chump.

I dont know...I kind of understand your point..however, the bar was raised in the eighties as far as technique and not playing the same pentatonic licks over a 30 minute jam...Which will bore even the most patient audience member to tears after awhile.


Exactly ,someone with a talk box saying ..Do you feel like I do for 5 minutes is hardly a lesson in not noodling
and IMPROVISING is in general umm noodling .If you have no structure and no plan that noodling . not saying it does not sound.great sometimes but still its a jam
15 minutes of Freebird 3 guys playing pentatonics is not outstanding creativity IMO

like It of not guys like Reb Beach ,Vito Bratta and Lynch have way more technique ,and knowledge of the fretboard IMO than most of the 70s players
But the best part about conversations like this there is no right answer ,I might think Lynch is a virtuoso ,,some might think he's a hack .to each their own
 
gtr31":204p9uk3 said:
BMoore77":204p9uk3 said:
carlygtr":204p9uk3 said:
Yeah, he's real lyrical LOL IMO every solo is some practice technique he stuck into a song, and it sounds like it. The best 70's guys could IMPROVISE. Something George forgot to incorporate into his style. He had his day. Unfortunately, the 80's are over. Never to return as most was dogshit. Will never span generations and have the longevity of 60's and 70's music.

George, who basically has nothing left to say on guitar, just rehashes the same old shit, looking like an old man trying to be 25 again. Like when Ali fought his sparring partner Larry Holmes and nearly got killed. Playing 80's material in small bars like a washed up chump.

I dont know...I kind of understand your point..however, the bar was raised in the eighties as far as technique and not playing the same pentatonic licks over a 30 minute jam...Which will bore even the most patient audience member to tears after awhile.


Exactly ,someone with a talk box saying ..Do you feel like I do for 5 minutes is hardly a lesson in not noodling
and IMPROVISING is in general umm noodling .If you have no structure and no plan that noodling . not saying it does not sound.great sometimes but still its a jam
15 minutes of Freebird 3 guys playing pentatonics is not outstanding creativity IMO

like It of not guys like Reb Beach ,Vito Bratta and Lynch have way more technique ,and knowledge of the fretboard IMO than most of the 70s players
But the best part about conversations like this there is no right answer ,I might think Lynch is a virtuoso ,,some might think he's a hack .to each their own

Yes, and with all their knowledge and technique, they say nothing, the music didn't last :lol: :LOL:
 
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