Mac versus Windows

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Mac's had an advantage with audio recording when they ran Motorola RISC processors. Now they are running Intel's and their operating system is built on a UNIX Kernel. Mac's have changed quite a bit from when Pro Tools were first introduced in the 90's.
 
Rezamatix":2jwbirmz said:
I've said this before on this type of thread.


Find me a professional recording studio that uses a Pc.

Then tell me how many were On Apple based computer systems.

Maybe 2% use PC.

Agreed.

That's because not many owners of pro recording studios are computer experts.

They just know how to install software, surf the web and point and click; the Mac fits their very limited computer knowledge.

Macs are cool (aesthetically too) but they're the training wheels of the computer world, and will always be considered as such.

Macs are usually prettier than your given PC. Looks also play a big determining factor in purchasing.

It's definitely not sound quality that is the reason the Mac is most prevalent in the studio... that all (and entirely) depends on your physical DAW interface, not the computer (assuming the computer is capable of the task).
 
Rezamatix":3r3yu9v3 said:
JamesPeters":3r3yu9v3 said:
Rezamatix":3r3yu9v3 said:
Don't worry so much , everything is gonna be ok.

Oh, this tactic now.

That's ok. You've been outed.


lol. in my previous life I was an IT engineer. Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer to be exact. I had a boat load of other certifications too. I used to be the PC's are better guy for all of the above mentioned reasons forever. But...I was wrong.

I used to build incredibly fast and powerful loaded PC boxes with the fastest motherboards and other components for a fraction of the price of the Mac. I used to think i was smarter or cooler for being able to do that and I laughed heartily at my Mac fanboy friends. I was wrong.

Im not disputing that you could provably get a nice recording rig set up around a PC system. Im sure there are MANY who do it and have had a good run with them, I had 3-4 systems I thought were excellent and I had built many more for my friends in the years that passed.

But my conversion to using Apple and the resulting years of complete happiness have cemented my belief that there is NO BETTER machine for building your studio and recording enterprise around than an Apple computer.

YMMV and as far as your ANALysis of me or my comments. I really don't care man, I don't know you and I don't need to. :D

This is exactly right!!

I have built a LARGE number of extremely powerful PC's...that on paper are far and away better than any mac out there for a fraction of the cost....and thats because the PC is an open standard...you have companies that are completely dedicated to a single portion of hte PC (video card companies, sound card companies, motherboard companies, memory companies etc...) and on a PC they generally will work together....UNTIL you start using a specific piece of software or hardware that interferes with the generally accepted communications paths for that hardware (ie some video cards will work with a particular software and others wont...). PC's are awesome when they work...but when you start dicking around with memory conflicts, locks, etc...they become a class 1 A pain in the ass...and when you try to call someone to fix it, well they all blame each other...ie the software company will say its the video card company, the video card company will say its Windows, Microsoft will say the drivers for that particular software/hardware combination will cause a conflict and you need to upgrade...etc....this is the downside of working with a PC....

You want to know why studio's use Mac's....its because they work!!! (Exactly how they are designed to) You buy a mac and every single one you buy is identical...the hardware uses all the same drivers, the memory is all the same brand, all the build specs are identical...you dont have some crazy memory allocation error because they all use the saem exact drivers for EVERYTHING...its completion autonomous...and thats why its more expensive....everything that goes into a Mac is Mac Certified and htere is no deviating from it. 3rd party developers dont have to worry about working with 800 video cards, 400 motherboards, ensuring that they work correctly with all those hardware drivers etc...you get something for a Mac, its gonna work...PERIOD....

My experience....PC's are for Games or for 1 specific purpose (whatever specific purpose it was built for to use a specific piece of software) or for people who are hobbyists...ie you like to tinker around and make shit work and dont lose your mind if it doesnt work the first time. Macs are for those that need to know something is absolutely going to work the first time and will always work the same way every time. Musicians usually fall into this category...and all the different recoding/editing software out there always works as expected (usually) on a MAC, whereas on a PC its DEFINITELY hit or miss...and unless you are like me, an IT/build your own PC guy first and a noodler on guitar second, a PC is NOT the way to go. You would be surprised at how powerful a cheap Mac Mini is with upgraded memory....it will SMOKE any PC in the same price range as far as video editing, recording music, etc....because its purpose built....
 
I'm a graphic designer and have been using Mac's since 1985 (still have the original 1985 Mac my dad bought and it still works). Recording and design have always been a Mac vs. PC thing, but things have changed. I still use Mac almost exclusively, but also have a $11,000 PC sitting right next to me with 4 titan graphics cards and all of that for rendering. It was the first PC I EVER used (don't know how i managed to avoid Windows all together for 20 something years) and you know what? It works just fine. Faster actually (as it should, it's got the latest and greatest available in just about every department). Windows is simple to use for the most part. I had no issues figuring it out and jumping right into it. Screw it... i'll just say it. I like Windows. Prefer MacOS, but like Windows just fine. MacOS still has the advantage in color management by a long shot, but that has nothing to do with recording, so i'll digress on that. The vast majority of flagship applications are available on both platforms as well.

TL;DR: They are both pretty much the same these days. Depends on what software you want to use really. You could build a sick dual boot PC and Hackintosh it and have the best of both worlds. or you can buy a Mac and dual boot it with Windows too.

PS: I just recorded in a professional studio and they were PC based (Samplitude). Best recording i've ever done.
 
atrox":37i8flpv said:
I'm a graphic designer and have been using Mac's since 1985 (still have the original 1985 Mac my dad bought and it still works). Recording and design have always been a Mac vs. PC thing, but things have changed. I still use Mac almost exclusively, but also have a $11,000 PC sitting right next to me with 4 titan graphics cards and all of that for rendering. It was the first PC I EVER used (don't know how i managed to avoid Windows all together for 20 something years) and you know what? It works just fine. Faster actually (as it should, it's got the latest and greatest available in just about every department). Windows is simple to use for the most part. I had no issues figuring it out and jumping right into it. Screw it... i'll just say it. I like Windows. Prefer MacOS, but like Windows just fine. MacOS still has the advantage in color management by a long shot, but that has nothing to do with recording, so i'll digress on that. The vast majority of flagship applications are available on both platforms as well.

TL;DR: They are both pretty much the same these days. Depends on what software you want to use really. You could build a sick dual boot PC and Hackintosh it and have the best of both worlds. or you can buy a Mac and dual boot it with Windows too.

I've often thought about building a Hackintosh, but am worried about hardware incompatibilities there as well.
 
atrox":z4gqprh5 said:
I'm a graphic designer and have been using Mac's since 1985 (still have the original 1985 Mac my dad bought and it still works). Recording and design have always been a Mac vs. PC thing, but things have changed. I still use Mac almost exclusively, but also have a $11,000 PC sitting right next to me with 4 titan graphics cards and all of that for rendering. It was the first PC I EVER used (don't know how i managed to avoid Windows all together for 20 something years) and you know what? It works just fine. Faster actually (as it should, it's got the latest and greatest available in just about every department). Windows is simple to use for the most part. I had no issues figuring it out and jumping right into it. Screw it... i'll just say it. I like Windows. Prefer MacOS, but like Windows just fine. MacOS still has the advantage in color management by a long shot, but that has nothing to do with recording, so i'll digress on that. The vast majority of flagship applications are available on both platforms as well.

TL;DR: They are both pretty much the same these days. Depends on what software you want to use really. You could build a sick dual boot PC and Hackintosh it and have the best of both worlds. or you can buy a Mac and dual boot it with Windows too.

PS: I just recorded in a professional studio and they were PC based (Samplitude). Best recording i've ever done.

Yeah...but that 11,000 dollar machine is purpose-built specifically for graphics rendering (and a specific piece of software...I would even bet that the company that designed the software "suggested" a specific build to best work with their software). There is a GOOD chance that I could hook up some USB2 shitbox recording device that could wreak havoc all over your memory allocation tables and that thing would run like absolute crap going forward...probably blue screen of death the damn thing every third boot up :-P
 
RedRider":2df9agqa said:
atrox":2df9agqa said:
I'm a graphic designer and have been using Mac's since 1985 (still have the original 1985 Mac my dad bought and it still works). Recording and design have always been a Mac vs. PC thing, but things have changed. I still use Mac almost exclusively, but also have a $11,000 PC sitting right next to me with 4 titan graphics cards and all of that for rendering. It was the first PC I EVER used (don't know how i managed to avoid Windows all together for 20 something years) and you know what? It works just fine. Faster actually (as it should, it's got the latest and greatest available in just about every department). Windows is simple to use for the most part. I had no issues figuring it out and jumping right into it. Screw it... i'll just say it. I like Windows. Prefer MacOS, but like Windows just fine. MacOS still has the advantage in color management by a long shot, but that has nothing to do with recording, so i'll digress on that. The vast majority of flagship applications are available on both platforms as well.

TL;DR: They are both pretty much the same these days. Depends on what software you want to use really. You could build a sick dual boot PC and Hackintosh it and have the best of both worlds. or you can buy a Mac and dual boot it with Windows too.

PS: I just recorded in a professional studio and they were PC based (Samplitude). Best recording i've ever done.

Yeah...but that 11,000 dollar machine is purpose-built specifically for graphics rendering (and a specific piece of software...I would even bet that the company that designed the software "suggested" a specific build to best work with their software). There is a GOOD chance that I could hook up some USB2 shitbox recording device that could wreak havoc all over your memory allocation tables and that thing would run like absolute crap going forward...probably blue screen of death the damn thing every third boot up :-P

I don't really think so. The only thing that is really specific to the machine is having 4 Titan graphics cards in it. I use this machine and another one just like it for GPU rendering. The rest is pretty much top of the line board, cooling, CPU and RAM. Other than that, it's a standard PC set up like any other PC. No crazy drivers or anything.
 
atrox":2rzwjrol said:
I'm a graphic designer and have been using Mac's since 1985 (still have the original 1985 Mac my dad bought and it still works). Recording and design have always been a Mac vs. PC thing, but things have changed. I still use Mac almost exclusively, but also have a $11,000 PC sitting right next to me with 4 titan graphics cards and all of that for rendering. It was the first PC I EVER used (don't know how i managed to avoid Windows all together for 20 something years) and you know what? It works just fine. Faster actually (as it should, it's got the latest and greatest available in just about every department). Windows is simple to use for the most part. I had no issues figuring it out and jumping right into it. Screw it... i'll just say it. I like Windows. Prefer MacOS, but like Windows just fine. MacOS still has the advantage in color management by a long shot, but that has nothing to do with recording, so i'll digress on that. The vast majority of flagship applications are available on both platforms as well.

TL;DR: They are both pretty much the same these days. Depends on what software you want to use really. You could build a sick dual boot PC and Hackintosh it and have the best of both worlds. or you can buy a Mac and dual boot it with Windows too.

PS: I just recorded in a professional studio and they were PC based (Samplitude). Best recording i've ever done.

I agree with the above statement. I also prefer Mac's, but because of the user interface.

Some of you are speaking as if Win 98 is the latest MS operating system. Come on, when is the last time resource conflicts were commonly seen or had to be manually configured?
And some of you seem really butt-hurt and are talking crap because someone else has a different opinion.

As I mentioned before, we are talking about two platforms that use for the most part Intel processors, similar physical memory, similar hard drives, etc.. Major differences being, one uses a registry and the other is UNIX based. Oh, and one does not use a fan to cool the CPU :confused: :confused: :confused:

I do prefer Mac's, but being that it is 2016 and not 1996, a PC is also a good choice for most people.
 
All I know, is that an Apple has never failed in me and are super simple to use. I'm just a guitar player and ez and spoon fed is what I want, especially since I'm new to recording.jmo
 
Rezamatix":2vuv54ly said:
lol. in my previous life I was an IT engineer. Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer to be exact. I had a boat load of other certifications too. I used to be the PC's are better guy for all of the above mentioned reasons forever. But...I was wrong.

I used to build incredibly fast and powerful loaded PC boxes with the fastest motherboards and other components for a fraction of the price of the Mac. I used to think i was smarter or cooler for being able to do that and I laughed heartily at my Mac fanboy friends. I was wrong.

Im not disputing that you could provably get a nice recording rig set up around a PC system. Im sure there are MANY who do it and have had a good run with them, I had 3-4 systems I thought were excellent and I had built many more for my friends in the years that passed.

But my conversion to using Apple and the resulting years of complete happiness have cemented my belief that there is NO BETTER machine for building your studio and recording enterprise around than an Apple computer.

YMMV and as far as your ANALysis of me or my comments. I really don't care man, I don't know you and I don't need to. :D

Another empty post talking about how you know better, yet don't provide any actual insight. You are being a blowhard as usual.

Meanwhile in one paragraph, RedRider explains his view of why it's better to use Mac (the hardware being "pre-chosen" and Mac certified). Not that it should stop most people from using a PC these days, but it's a good reason to consider a Mac over a PC. If a person is thinking "I just want the machine to work right..." and has little experience with troubleshooting, my first recommendation is to get a Mac.

Remember how I said "I can think of several reasons for (people using Macs in professional studios) which have nothing to do with a person's ability to just as effectively use a PC in a professional recording studio"? That's one of them.
 
4406cuda":1sj8i7nl said:
atrox":1sj8i7nl said:
I'm a graphic designer and have been using Mac's since 1985 (still have the original 1985 Mac my dad bought and it still works). Recording and design have always been a Mac vs. PC thing, but things have changed. I still use Mac almost exclusively, but also have a $11,000 PC sitting right next to me with 4 titan graphics cards and all of that for rendering. It was the first PC I EVER used (don't know how i managed to avoid Windows all together for 20 something years) and you know what? It works just fine. Faster actually (as it should, it's got the latest and greatest available in just about every department). Windows is simple to use for the most part. I had no issues figuring it out and jumping right into it. Screw it... i'll just say it. I like Windows. Prefer MacOS, but like Windows just fine. MacOS still has the advantage in color management by a long shot, but that has nothing to do with recording, so i'll digress on that. The vast majority of flagship applications are available on both platforms as well.

TL;DR: They are both pretty much the same these days. Depends on what software you want to use really. You could build a sick dual boot PC and Hackintosh it and have the best of both worlds. or you can buy a Mac and dual boot it with Windows too.

PS: I just recorded in a professional studio and they were PC based (Samplitude). Best recording i've ever done.

I agree with the above statement. I also prefer Mac's, but because of the user interface.

Some of you are speaking as if Win 98 is the latest MS operating system. Come on, when is the last time resource conflicts were commonly seen or had to be manually configured?
And some of you seem really butt-hurt and are talking crap because someone else has a different opinion.

As I mentioned before, we are talking about two platforms that use for the most part Intel processors, similar physical memory, similar hard drives, etc.. Major differences being, one uses a registry and the other is UNIX based. Oh, and one does not use a fan to cool the CPU :confused: :confused: :confused:

I do prefer Mac's, but being that it is 2016 and not 1996, a PC is also a good choice for most people.

I totally disagree on your last statement....to boost my argument I point to the bi-weekly maintenance updates (driver updates/software updates) you get with a PC (well a windows box) vs a Mac (VERY FEW). There are still MASSIVE amounts of incompatibilities amongst hardware/software when talking a PC. Granted if you are building a PC for a specific use, you can iron all of that out pretty quickly, but you run into issues constantly with backwards compatibility, upgrade issues with software etc....with a Mac that is all GREATLY reduced. Go talk to guys that run IT departments for major companies and ask why they are all still using Internet Explorer..LOL
 
Also to be clear....I am typing on a PC right now...home built, liquid cooled, SSD booted with 10tb NAS but to be fair I also have a Mac for work, 2 Mac Minis, my own personal 15 inch MBP that I use for pictures and when I travel for work I not only carry my issued company Mac but my personal Surface Pro 3...so I am all over the map when it comes to computers...LOL. I think that PC's can be built that are FAR more powerful than a Mac for a 3rd the price...but the fact that Mac's are a closed box, all proprietary, and dont have to entertain any other hardware vendor makes them extremely streamlined and very stable...so thats what you have to choose between when shopping between both factors....

If you understand how computers work, can build a pc, and are comfortable with the fact that when you push the ragged edge with them, they crash and it takes horrendous amounts of time and sanity to figure out why they do things...then you can save an ass-ton of money and build a pc....

If you know jack shit about computers except how to turn it on and surf porn, you have zero patience and chuck your tuner across the room whenever your g string goes flat for the 50th time in 2 hours, and you lose it when something doesnt work exactly the same way every single time...then I would suggest you spend the extra bucks and get a Mac...

Anyone who truly is unbiased and is familiar with both platforms will have a REALLY hard time refuting that suggestion.... :-D
 
RedRider":wztzd96b said:
Also to be clear....I am typing on a PC right now...home built, liquid cooled, SSD booted with 10tb NAS but to be fair I also have a Mac for work, 2 Mac Minis, my own personal 15 inch MBP that I use for pictures and when I travel for work I not only carry my issued company Mac but my personal Surface Pro 3...so I am all over the map when it comes to computers...LOL. I think that PC's can be built that are FAR more powerful than a Mac for a 3rd the price...but the fact that Mac's are a closed box, all proprietary, and dont have to entertain any other hardware vendor makes them extremely streamlined and very stable...so thats what you have to choose between when shopping between both factors....

If you understand how computers work, can build a pc, and are comfortable with the fact that when you push the ragged edge with them, they crash and it takes horrendous amounts of time and sanity to figure out why they do things...then you can save an ass-ton of money and build a pc....

If you know jack shit about computers except how to turn it on and surf porn, you have zero patience and chuck your tuner across the room whenever your g string goes flat for the 50th time in 2 hours, and you lose it when something doesnt work exactly the same way every single time...then I would suggest you spend the extra bucks and get a Mac...

Anyone who truly is unbiased and is familiar with both platforms will have a REALLY hard time refuting that suggestion.... :-D

Agreed! I can think of more reasons too. :) Among them: what software does the person want to use, what hardware does the person want to interface with the computer.
 
RedRider":7u8ouonh said:
4406cuda":7u8ouonh said:
atrox":7u8ouonh said:
I'm a graphic designer and have been using Mac's since 1985 (still have the original 1985 Mac my dad bought and it still works). Recording and design have always been a Mac vs. PC thing, but things have changed. I still use Mac almost exclusively, but also have a $11,000 PC sitting right next to me with 4 titan graphics cards and all of that for rendering. It was the first PC I EVER used (don't know how i managed to avoid Windows all together for 20 something years) and you know what? It works just fine. Faster actually (as it should, it's got the latest and greatest available in just about every department). Windows is simple to use for the most part. I had no issues figuring it out and jumping right into it. Screw it... i'll just say it. I like Windows. Prefer MacOS, but like Windows just fine. MacOS still has the advantage in color management by a long shot, but that has nothing to do with recording, so i'll digress on that. The vast majority of flagship applications are available on both platforms as well.

TL;DR: They are both pretty much the same these days. Depends on what software you want to use really. You could build a sick dual boot PC and Hackintosh it and have the best of both worlds. or you can buy a Mac and dual boot it with Windows too.

PS: I just recorded in a professional studio and they were PC based (Samplitude). Best recording i've ever done.

I agree with the above statement. I also prefer Mac's, but because of the user interface.

Some of you are speaking as if Win 98 is the latest MS operating system. Come on, when is the last time resource conflicts were commonly seen or had to be manually configured?
And some of you seem really butt-hurt and are talking crap because someone else has a different opinion.

As I mentioned before, we are talking about two platforms that use for the most part Intel processors, similar physical memory, similar hard drives, etc.. Major differences being, one uses a registry and the other is UNIX based. Oh, and one does not use a fan to cool the CPU :confused: :confused: :confused:

I do prefer Mac's, but being that it is 2016 and not 1996, a PC is also a good choice for most people.

I totally disagree on your last statement....to boost my argument I point to the bi-weekly maintenance updates (driver updates/software updates) you get with a PC (well a windows box) vs a Mac (VERY FEW). There are still MASSIVE amounts of incompatibilities amongst hardware/software when talking a PC. Granted if you are building a PC for a specific use, you can iron all of that out pretty quickly, but you run into issues constantly with backwards compatibility, upgrade issues with software etc....with a Mac that is all GREATLY reduced. Go talk to guys that run IT departments for major companies and ask why they are all still using Internet Explorer..LOL

I believe we agree on somethings. I actually am an IT engineer for a well known Fortune 500 company based just north of Los Angeles. I assume you are aware, IE is no longer available with the release of Windows 10. The new browser is Edge.

Also, for anyone who does not know, Microsoft releases patches the second Tuesday of every month, in the industry it is referred as "Patch Tuesday". There is rumors that most patching will occur with two or three service packs a year, rather than once a month with Windows 10.
 
4406cuda":2e9egj5c said:
RedRider":2e9egj5c said:
4406cuda":2e9egj5c said:
atrox":2e9egj5c said:
I'm a graphic designer and have been using Mac's since 1985 (still have the original 1985 Mac my dad bought and it still works). Recording and design have always been a Mac vs. PC thing, but things have changed. I still use Mac almost exclusively, but also have a $11,000 PC sitting right next to me with 4 titan graphics cards and all of that for rendering. It was the first PC I EVER used (don't know how i managed to avoid Windows all together for 20 something years) and you know what? It works just fine. Faster actually (as it should, it's got the latest and greatest available in just about every department). Windows is simple to use for the most part. I had no issues figuring it out and jumping right into it. Screw it... i'll just say it. I like Windows. Prefer MacOS, but like Windows just fine. MacOS still has the advantage in color management by a long shot, but that has nothing to do with recording, so i'll digress on that. The vast majority of flagship applications are available on both platforms as well.

TL;DR: They are both pretty much the same these days. Depends on what software you want to use really. You could build a sick dual boot PC and Hackintosh it and have the best of both worlds. or you can buy a Mac and dual boot it with Windows too.

PS: I just recorded in a professional studio and they were PC based (Samplitude). Best recording i've ever done.

I agree with the above statement. I also prefer Mac's, but because of the user interface.

Some of you are speaking as if Win 98 is the latest MS operating system. Come on, when is the last time resource conflicts were commonly seen or had to be manually configured?
And some of you seem really butt-hurt and are talking crap because someone else has a different opinion.

As I mentioned before, we are talking about two platforms that use for the most part Intel processors, similar physical memory, similar hard drives, etc.. Major differences being, one uses a registry and the other is UNIX based. Oh, and one does not use a fan to cool the CPU :confused: :confused: :confused:

I do prefer Mac's, but being that it is 2016 and not 1996, a PC is also a good choice for most people.

I totally disagree on your last statement....to boost my argument I point to the bi-weekly maintenance updates (driver updates/software updates) you get with a PC (well a windows box) vs a Mac (VERY FEW). There are still MASSIVE amounts of incompatibilities amongst hardware/software when talking a PC. Granted if you are building a PC for a specific use, you can iron all of that out pretty quickly, but you run into issues constantly with backwards compatibility, upgrade issues with software etc....with a Mac that is all GREATLY reduced. Go talk to guys that run IT departments for major companies and ask why they are all still using Internet Explorer..LOL

I believe we agree on somethings. I actually am an IT engineer for a well known Fortune 500 company based just north of Los Angeles. I assume you are aware, IE is no longer available with the release of Windows 10. The new browser is Edge.

Also, for anyone who does not know, Microsoft releases patches the second Tuesday of every month, in the industry it is referred as "Patch Tuesday". There is rumors that most patching will occur with two or three service packs a year, rather than once a month with Windows 10.

Yeah...I am aware that IE went away a while ago (and intimately familiar with Patch Tuesday..LOLZ)...that was my point ..that there are so many tools that will only work on IE seamlessly and run into issues with other browsers which are basically the same type software...(SAP, Seibel, and many others) that it just shows my point that there are a ton of inter-dependancies with a PC that just arent there with a Mac...LOL that you can be pigeon holed into a corner and have to use a tool that is completely end of life'd to even continue working (I work for a large router/switch/firewall company so I am sure we are both surrounded by the same type of work and PC/Mac issues)

I think we both agree on a lot too...so its more just preaching to the choir... :-P
 
BadCat":35ai7nbu said:
Checked if there is a lot of info out there on the net but couldn`t find too much so i try here since we guitarists have special requirments regarding recording and videoediting software.
I have earlier on used windows but need a new PC. Have used windows moviemaker and audacity and thought to upgrade to cubase.
Does it matter which solution (Mac or PC) one chooses or is the one as good as the other when it comes to ease of use, quality, videoediting, etc.
Checked prices and found that a Mac with I7, graphic card, etc cost about 3000 USD while a PC with the same features costs half as much.
Thanks for every good advice!!!

So I read through your original question/post again. You're most likely looking for someone to validate spending twice as much on the Mac over the PC with the same specs. Thats almost as subjective as "why should I spend 3,000 on a guitar when the $1,000 guitar plays and sounds as good???" rabbit hole of confusion,dehydration, and butt hurt. I would suggest working in your budget, and look at the software/hardware your looking to use. If its compatible with windows... play ball.

My experience is that DAW's and most plug ins work with Windows. You might have to work a tad on drivers due to Windows 10 being.. windows 10. But that small inconvenience isn't something I'd say equals to spending an extra 1,500 for the Mac. If your decision is hanging strictly on Daw and plug ins, then your basically asking do I pay the extra 1,500 for ease of use? I won't go into the specifics on hardware and the os's themselves.. both the os's piss me off, but I will say my Macbook Pro is the most dependable machine I've ever had.

Cheers
 
lll":1fawzpw9 said:
Rezamatix":1fawzpw9 said:
I've said this before on this type of thread.


Find me a professional recording studio that uses a Pc.

Then tell me how many were On Apple based computer systems.

Maybe 2% use PC.

Agreed.

That's because not many owners of pro recording studios are computer experts.

They just know how to install software, surf the web and point and click; the Mac fits their very limited computer knowledge.

Macs are cool (aesthetically too) but they're the training wheels of the computer world, and will always be considered as such.

Macs are usually prettier than your given PC. Looks also play a big determining factor in purchasing.

It's definitely not sound quality that is the reason the Mac is most prevalent in the studio... that all (and entirely) depends on your physical DAW interface, not the computer (assuming the computer is capable of the task).


One a similar note, if anyone gets into dirtbikes or ATV's and you want to ride the thing, put gas in it, and just change the oil, you buy a Honda. They're solid, bulletproof, and not a lot of maintenance. But you'll get smokes in a straight line to a modded 2 Stroke Banshee. I think of Apple to Honda.

I have to build another PC soon because the one I have now is a bit old but I'm having a hard time killing it. But I can't record with it, everything sounds like it's underwater. I have a bunch of 2TB Sata drives that I can use so I may as well piece something together that fits my needs. Spending a ton on a new Apple would be a waste for me.
 
Rezamatix":3ersuqc3 said:
I've said this before on this type of thread.


Find me a professional recording studio that uses a Pc.

Then tell me how many were On Apple based computer systems.

Maybe 2% use PC.

I work at a post-production music studio, all PCs. The 2 other studios across the road that do mainly radio and terrestrial television all PC. The Dub and mixing suite we use is PC. The only Mac dub suite we have is one of our older engineers prefers it but still complains why rendering takes forever on a 2008 Mac tower haha.

We needed machines we can upgrade on the fly, plus they work fluidly with our AVID ISIS. The upgrade when we where all on Macs was 23k which was just way too much to spend each upgrade when you consider you're paying a premium for the same components. We've found more stability in ProTools, Pyramix and Cubase on the PC in project shares. Our old Macs where crashing around 3 times a day.
 
I find the Mac/PC argument is usually started when someone buys a $500 PC and says "this isn't that great" then go out buy a $1400 Mac and go "WOW macs are amazing..."

When I say I prefer PC, I don't mean in general, I mean high end professional PCs equivalently priced to the "high end" macs

Here is my work Pro-Tools and rendering machine:

I need a Xeon processor and a Quadro... Mac doesn't do these features and I refuse to pay over a grand to only get a shitty Intel HD graphics card you find in high end Macs. It's all subjective personal preference. A Mac wouldn't do what I need it to do, and would cost too much, that is genuinely my only reason :)

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