Marshall JVM ?

[EnGl]

Hello , I'm proud owner of Peavey 6534+. Wonderful , ideal amp but there is a problem. Amp is only for chug chug stuff, heavy tones etc.
I've reached my dream sound which I had been searching for almost 5 years. My "main" tone.
I always liked Marshall amps , that is the reason why I bought 6534 which is bit "marshall flavoured" but capable of doing really stupid gain tones.
Now I want to buy second amp , answer is easy - I want Marshall. All of my idols played/plays Marshalls - Dave Mustaine , Gary Holt , Zakk Wylde , Angus Young , EVH etc. I love legendary mids of marshall.

I thought about Marshall JVM410H , what do you think about this amp ? Or maybe the solution is easy ? I mean JCM800+ boost ?
I can't play them , my nearest shop has only shitty Mesa , Peaveys and some Randall solid states.

 

[rp108]

I have to disagree with you on the 6534+, especially that model with the EL34s. That crunch channel can get some nice Marshall tones. But if you really want a Marshall it doesn't get much better than an 800 with an overdrive in front.

 

[EnGl]

I have to disagree with you on the 6534+, especially that model with the EL34s. That crunch channel can get some nice Marshall tones. But if you really want a Marshall it doesn't get much better than an 800 with an overdrive in front.

Yup , I like the crunch but It can't shake my pants like lead channel.

JCM800 but which ? Classic 2203 ? 50w or 100w ? What is the difference in tone between 50w and 100w ?

 

[rp108]

I have to disagree with you on the 6534+, especially that model with the EL34s. That crunch channel can get some nice Marshall tones. But if you really want a Marshall it doesn't get much better than an 800 with an overdrive in front.

Yup , I like the crunch but It can't shake my pants like lead channel.

JCM800 but which ? Classic 2203 ? 50w or 100w ? What is the difference in tone between 50w and 100w ?

I did a record with a 50 watt from 86 and during the recording it stopped working. We plugged in a 100 watt 76 JMP and you know the differences we heard? None. They sounded identical with nothing changed (mic position, cab, mic preamps, guitar, pedals, monitors, etc). In a band situation, you may want the 100 watt to get more balls but these amps are LOUD.

Personally, I would go with the reissue with a loop to avoid having to get a mod.

 

[EnGl]

I have to disagree with you on the 6534+, especially that model with the EL34s. That crunch channel can get some nice Marshall tones. But if you really want a Marshall it doesn't get much better than an 800 with an overdrive in front.

Yup , I like the crunch but It can't shake my pants like lead channel.

JCM800 but which ? Classic 2203 ? 50w or 100w ? What is the difference in tone between 50w and 100w ?

I did a record with a 50 watt from 86 and during the recording it stopped working. We plugged in a 100 watt 76 JMP and you know the differences we heard? None. They sounded identical with nothing changed (mic position, cab, mic preamps, guitar, pedals, monitors, etc). In a band situation, you may want the 100 watt to get more balls but these amps are LOUD.

Personally, I would go with the reissue with a loop to avoid having to get a mod.

There is difference between reissue and original 2203 ? I'm sure you played both so you can chime in.

 

[rp108]

I have to disagree with you on the 6534+, especially that model with the EL34s. That crunch channel can get some nice Marshall tones. But if you really want a Marshall it doesn't get much better than an 800 with an overdrive in front.

Yup , I like the crunch but It can't shake my pants like lead channel.

JCM800 but which ? Classic 2203 ? 50w or 100w ? What is the difference in tone between 50w and 100w ?

I did a record with a 50 watt from 86 and during the recording it stopped working. We plugged in a 100 watt 76 JMP and you know the differences we heard? None. They sounded identical with nothing changed (mic position, cab, mic preamps, guitar, pedals, monitors, etc). In a band situation, you may want the 100 watt to get more balls but these amps are LOUD.

Personally, I would go with the reissue with a loop to avoid having to get a mod.

There is difference between reissue and original 2203 ? I'm sure you played both so you can chime in.

I personally don't think there is a difference, and if there is, it's not enough to make me want one over the other (other than having an effects loop). I do think the prices of a new JCM 800 are absurd though.

 

[EnGl]

I have to disagree with you on the 6534+, especially that model with the EL34s. That crunch channel can get some nice Marshall tones. But if you really want a Marshall it doesn't get much better than an 800 with an overdrive in front.

Yup , I like the crunch but It can't shake my pants like lead channel.

JCM800 but which ? Classic 2203 ? 50w or 100w ? What is the difference in tone between 50w and 100w ?

I did a record with a 50 watt from 86 and during the recording it stopped working. We plugged in a 100 watt 76 JMP and you know the differences we heard? None. They sounded identical with nothing changed (mic position, cab, mic preamps, guitar, pedals, monitors, etc). In a band situation, you may want the 100 watt to get more balls but these amps are LOUD.

Personally, I would go with the reissue with a loop to avoid having to get a mod.

There is difference between reissue and original 2203 ? I'm sure you played both so you can chime in.

I personally don't think there is a difference, and if there is, it's not enough to make me want one over the other (other than having an effects loop). I do think the prices of a new JCM 800 are absurd though.

Yup . That is the reason why I probably will be search for used one. But If I will find new reissue cheap - why not ?
What about quality components of reissue ? I'm not sure if they are as high as older ones. You know , something like new tubes vs NOS.

 

[rp108]

I have to disagree with you on the 6534+, especially that model with the EL34s. That crunch channel can get some nice Marshall tones. But if you really want a Marshall it doesn't get much better than an 800 with an overdrive in front.

Yup , I like the crunch but It can't shake my pants like lead channel.

JCM800 but which ? Classic 2203 ? 50w or 100w ? What is the difference in tone between 50w and 100w ?

I did a record with a 50 watt from 86 and during the recording it stopped working. We plugged in a 100 watt 76 JMP and you know the differences we heard? None. They sounded identical with nothing changed (mic position, cab, mic preamps, guitar, pedals, monitors, etc). In a band situation, you may want the 100 watt to get more balls but these amps are LOUD.

Personally, I would go with the reissue with a loop to avoid having to get a mod.

There is difference between reissue and original 2203 ? I'm sure you played both so you can chime in.

I personally don't think there is a difference, and if there is, it's not enough to make me want one over the other (other than having an effects loop). I do think the prices of a new JCM 800 are absurd though.

Yup . That is the reason why I probably will be search for used one. But If I will find new reissue cheap - why not ?
What about quality components of reissue ? I'm not sure if they are as high as older ones. You know , something like new tubes vs NOS.

That's out of my cork sniffing skills. There is no doubt that tubes today are not as good as the old ones, at least in terms of quality, but I am sure there are some experts around here who can talk about transformers, resistors, full moons, and gremlins fed after midnight in the Marshall plant.

 

[Metaddict]

The JVM Serie is great.
The JVM 410 is in my opinion the best amp fo the bucket.
4 Channels,3 sounds per Channel, Midi, silent recording.
My former Bandmate had this amp.Great!!!

 

[EnGl]

Thanks guys . I will keep my eyes on these two amps.
Is there any special pedal which will work well with JCM800 ? OD9 , od808 ? maybe green rhino ?

 

[Shawn Lutz]

I think it I was gonna buy a new Marshall amp I'd go with a YJM-100.

My fav Marshall is my old JCM800 2203's w/6550's with a Boss SD-1 and GE-7 in front

 

[carlygtr]

Check out the Satriani JVM. I had the YJM 2 years and while it was great, I preferred the JVM

 

[EnGl]

Ouch , this JS JVM is bit pricey ...

 

[Darko]

Core of classic Marshall sound is (are) 1959/1987 + 2203/2204, whatever it is JMP or JCM800 models. Just add some boost in front of those and you are on the top of the world. JVM4 is too modern compared to those, and I really dont like it (at all).

 

[thiswaythatway]

Funny to call Mesa shitty if you're talking build quality and whatnot when the JVM looks like a science project gone wrong by a 7th grader, sounds like it to.

 

[Heritage Softail]

The 410H is pretty cheap and versatile. I have that and a DSL100. The 410 is a few more options. I am keeping the DSL and eventually selling the 410h.

The JVM clean channel is pretty good. The higher gain settings can be a tad noisy, but in a loud as hell situation the noise is not that big of a deal.

A solid amp on the cheap.

 

[EnGl]

Funny to call Mesa shitty if you're talking build quality and whatnot when the JVM looks like a science project gone wrong by a 7th grader, sounds like it to.

Shitty in terms of tone. It's like Bugatti Veyron , top notch car , highest quality parts but it looks like camel toe of xxxxxl size model. No doubt , highest grade of parts but for me it sounds ... meh ... I will not call it sound. I will call farts. In right hands it can be great amp ... but I don't liked it. And it was Mark V and used Mark IV. I never played DR or TR so I can't make a comment about them . I know that I generalized about Mesa. I don't mean all of them, only previous mentioned - my bad.


About this JVM:
It's noisier than 6505/6505+ ? If not , not a problem for me
I don't use clean channel , In my whole life I played clean channel maybe for an ... hour or two ? But it's good to know that , in future it can change

 

[Bloodrock]

800+ boost = awesome! Best Marshall tone ever. I liked the DSL and JVM until I tried a boosted 800. 1000 times more balls. A little bit of mods and you won't need the OD with the Marshall anymore, but keeping the stock 800 sound is always a good thing to have when you want it. I vote 800+OD.

 

[Chris O]

Chupacabra.

 

[Little B]

I bought a JVM a while back.All channels sounded pretty decent on it( I also used my friedman modded 2203 to a/b against).A little bit of apples to oranges there...Anyways, I had my jvm retubed w/ winged cs,choice preamp tubes, and a better bias job...The jvms come from the factory biased really cold.This made the amp sound much better all around..Still not on par w/ my 2203 friedman.I recently bought a 6100 and a jcm 800 2210 and I already love them much better than the jvm-all around.And the 6100 allmost completely nails the 2203 vibe..scary close..I actually like my 6100 the best of all my marshalls with 2203 and 2210 next..the 2210 sounds very metalish w/ my Timmy pedal in front of it.Jvm went out the door...I hear the satch is completely different though--