Devilinside
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Other than speakers does anyone know what the difference is between the VM CABS (425B) and the 1960. Build/materials?
troublehead
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The 425 is all ply except for the back panel. I don't know about the 1960. But I will say that those G12C speakers are great. More focused and thicker/warmer than Reissue G12m's once broken in. They track high gain very well as long as you don't go insane with the volume. I like them MUCH more than the Scumback M's and J's I compared them to.
D-Rock
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I have both a 425A and 1960A. Construction wise they are the same however I found the 425A to be thinner sounding compared to the 1960A. But I guess that could be due to Marshall QC or lack there of in terms of cab construction.
As a result of that, I put a rather dark sounding speaker combination in the 425A and now that cab sounds real thick and tight as hell.
The stock GB's are now in a thicker, darker sounding OS 2x12 and they sound great in there.
Otherwise, they are made the same of the same material.
As a result of that, I put a rather dark sounding speaker combination in the 425A and now that cab sounds real thick and tight as hell.
The stock GB's are now in a thicker, darker sounding OS 2x12 and they sound great in there.
Otherwise, they are made the same of the same material.
Devilinside
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id probably be doing straight V30'S or an x-pattern with 75's
zerohawk
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When I worked at Sam Ash we got a rundown of the Marshall gear we had from the rep who frequently came in. He told us that the Vintage Modern cabs had speakers that were made to original spec down to using animal hide glue. I don't recall anything he said about the construction of the cab itself though. Those were also the original run of Vintage Modern cabs, so I don't know if they use the same speakers anymore.
Edit: just saw you were only looking for the difference in build quality lol
Edit: just saw you were only looking for the difference in build quality lol
Devilinside
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Hmmn interesting! I'm one of the few that likes the marshall 1960 with the right speakers, so I was just wondering if the VM was similar.zerohawk":2uq2lsg7 said:
troublehead
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Devilinside":n1oqamc8 said:
If you do that....PLEASE sell me the G12C Greenies.
PeteLaramee
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Not to hijack the thread...but here I go...are the Greenbacks in the 1960ax or 1960ac cabinets Heritage? Or Chinese?
Ayrton
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The VM cabs are the same spec as the Hendrix cabs, and all three including the 1960 have the same construction.
Good or bad, Marshall has not really changed how the cabs are built since the '70's.
Good or bad, Marshall has not really changed how the cabs are built since the '70's.
Devilinside
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Funny there was a VM half stack in ATL that I was trying to trade for the VM cab unloaded because I've got speakers, but the guy was selling only! Ayrton I've got a VHT fatbottom that I'm wanting to trade unloaded if ya know anyone up your way. I'm about 2.5 hrs from ATL and would split the drive. Hell I would take a unloaded marshall 1960B if its in really good shape as mine is!Ayrton":2kbe00rs said:
You cannot sell SHIT in this town I live in!
Ayrton
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D-Rock
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Should sound great. Both of those sound badass in Marshall cabs.Devilinside":39tesrg0 said:
I've got x patterns in both my Marshall cabs.
V30's x T75's in the 1960A and WGS BL80's x ET-65's in the VM 425A.
Devilinside
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That's correct, That's me! Man it blows so much hereAyrton":1200c0j6 said:
Devilinside
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Yeah I got x in my 1960B and I really don't get why people think the marshall's are garbage. I love mine! How does the 80/65 cab compare to the 30/75? What are the differences?D-Rock":2rq9g3i5 said:
Ayrton
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Devilinside":2jyx4jhv said:
People like to talk shit about what they don't know.
Marshall cabs sound like Marshall cabs, and that is just fine if that is what you are looking for.
All my cabs are Marshall and they sound just fine.
T
The Luke
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According to Marshall themselves, the actual wood and construction of the 1960 and VM cabs is identical and the difference is the speakers (They told me this when I had a tour there last year)
I have a 1960A and 425B, but only seem to play the 425B these days - the G12C speakers are fantastic.
I have a 1960A and 425B, but only seem to play the 425B these days - the G12C speakers are fantastic.
yngzaklynch
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I sent a link of this thread to Marshall engineer and VM creator Steve Dawson. This was his response...
Hey Jim,
Yes the 425 cabs are exactly the same build and quality as the 1960 cabs. All dimensions are the same. The differences on the 425 cabs are; -
1. The G12C speakers of course.
2. The covering colour (although I think they have been standardised to black these days).
3. There is no name plaque in the bottom left hand corner. I prefer the look without a plaque as per the first 20 years.
By the way, '425' simply means 4 x 25W speakers. It was easier than creating yet another 1960** suffix.
Cheers,
Steve
Hey Jim,
Yes the 425 cabs are exactly the same build and quality as the 1960 cabs. All dimensions are the same. The differences on the 425 cabs are; -
1. The G12C speakers of course.
2. The covering colour (although I think they have been standardised to black these days).
3. There is no name plaque in the bottom left hand corner. I prefer the look without a plaque as per the first 20 years.
By the way, '425' simply means 4 x 25W speakers. It was easier than creating yet another 1960** suffix.
Cheers,
Steve
Devilinside
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yngzaklynch":1w9fwyv5 said:
Devilinside
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Messed that up! THANKS MAN!
yngzaklynch
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Devilinside":36vfuup1 said:
The Marshall Vintage Modern is very near and dear to my heart. I do my best to help whenever it is mentioned.
Jim