Megadeath....

[zee1usa]

Death Magnetic is a great album

Best think they have done in many years, it was a hell of a go..next one may be even better

 

[roadifier]

Death Magnetic is a great album

Best think they have done in many years, it was a hell of a go..next one may be even better

I'm hoping

 

[Qweklain]

I like ALL of the albums, and though most did not, I personally really like Risk. I also have to say my favorite is NOT Rust in Peace, but Youthanasia. That album just SLAYS in my opinion!

 

[droptrd]

Death Magnetic is a great album

Best think they have done in many years, it was a hell of a go..next one may be even better

I'm hoping

Seems like theyre trying to hard. Seemed fake to me. Their heads are in a different place now.

 

[Code001]

NO ONE can say it stomps all over Death Magnetic

I can. It stomps all over Death Magnetic.

 

[155]

Beats the hell out of Death Magnetic

thats not saying much...

 

[fearhk213]

Yep, JVM 410H. If you scroll down you can see pics of the setting used: http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy ... day-3.html

The pickups were the Mustaine sig pickups & the tubescreamer was a Maxon OD820. No idea on the gate though.

 

[roadifier]

with a single sm57... pretty cool!

Yep, JVM 410H. If you scroll down you can see pics of the setting used: http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy ... day-3.html

The pickups were the Mustaine sig pickups & the tubescreamer was a Maxon OD820. No idea on the gate though.

 

[Jimmie]

Seems like theyre trying to hard. Seemed fake to me. Their heads are in a different place now.

Peace Sells = Dave's first professionally mastered “lashing out” for getting shit-canned by Metallica. Fame, however, has softened the incensed nature of Mr. Mustaine, compounded by the pre-show toasting of elegant rot from his personal estate reserves. With his anger and resentment of the world subdued by the finer amenities of life, its no wonder the edge in most of what he’s created in the past ten years is less than we've come to expect. The audience reminds them at each and every show through their applause at the songs, crafted in a time when life was much harder and uncertain. Perhaps if he were to give it all up, and started over with no laurals to rest upon, the edge would return.

 

[skoora]

Seems like theyre trying to hard. Seemed fake to me. Their heads are in a different place now.

Peace Sells = Dave's first professionally mastered “lashing out” for getting shit-canned by Metallica. Fame, however, has softened the incensed nature of Mr. Mustaine, compounded by the pre-show toasting of elegant rot from his personal estate reserves. With his anger and resentment of the world subdued by the finer amenities of life, its no wonder the edge in most of what he’s created in the past ten years is less than we've come to expect. The audience reminds them at each and every show through their applause at the songs, crafted in a time when life was much harder and uncertain. Perhaps if he were to give it all up, and started over with no laurals to rest upon, the edge would return.

I think he's refering to Metallica but it really is for any band/musician who gets older.

 

[droptrd]

Seems like theyre trying to hard. Seemed fake to me. Their heads are in a different place now.

Peace Sells = Dave's first professionally mastered “lashing out” for getting shit-canned by Metallica. Fame, however, has softened the incensed nature of Mr. Mustaine, compounded by the pre-show toasting of elegant rot from his personal estate reserves. With his anger and resentment of the world subdued by the finer amenities of life, its no wonder the edge in most of what he’s created in the past ten years is less than we've come to expect. The audience reminds them at each and every show through their applause at the songs, crafted in a time when life was much harder and uncertain. Perhaps if he were to give it all up, and started over with no laurals to rest upon, the edge would return.

I think he's refering to Metallica but it really is for any band/musician who gets older.

True. Even myself. A punk rocker pissed at the world...Now Im getting to old and tired to be "THAT" pissed

 

[Les Zombie]

I love the endgame album.

 

[Metlupass2]

 

[Jimmie]

I think he's refering to Metallica but it really is for any band/musician who gets older.

Sorry, I should have clarified better, up too late, not enough sleep, rise and shine came too early.

I've always viewed the sound that was "Metallica" actually started out on the chemistry of the original line-up with Cliff and Dave, not their replacements.

I guess that Lars and James's estimation of Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll was different than Dave's. Dave was left to reinvent a different signature sound to purge his angst, and his early stuff "post Metallica" at least up to Rust in Peace, was nothing short of amazing.

 

[Joeytpg]

I think he's refering to Metallica but it really is for any band/musician who gets older.

Sorry, I should have clarified better, up too late, not enough sleep, rise and shine came too early.

I've always viewed the sound that was "Metallica" actually started out on the chemistry of the original line-up with Cliff and Dave, not their replacements.

I guess that Lars and James's estimation of Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll was different than Dave's. Dave was left to reinvent a different signature sound to purge his angst, and his early stuff "post Metallica" at least up to Rust in Peace, was nothing short of amazing.

honestly the SOUND of metallica is James Hetfield musical creativity with Lars Ulrich excellent producer skills, period.

Kirk has serve an an excellent "middle guy" between those two forces and he deserves credit for that, plus he has ALWAYS written very melodic solos that blend well with the songs...... a more shredder guitarist would not fit in metallica IMO.

 

[glassjaw7]

I like End Game, very nice tone and great songwriting, but imo NO ONE can say it stomps all over Death Magnetic..... Death Magnetic is a great album

I can and will say it; End Game completely destroys DM. If that wasn't a Metallica album, it would have been seen as the clumsy, lacking and stale effort it really was. But since they are Metallica, they have everyone holding their hands as they attempt to wade back into the thrash scene and people have to tell them how big their dicks are now because they got tough enough to play fast power chords again. Lars' drumming sucks on that album BTW.

I was a HUGE tallica fan at one time, even appreciated the commercial success of Black and the experimenting on Load, but c'mon! They need to hang it up. They just don't have it anymore.

In comparison, End Game is fantastic and just as valid as their earlier releases. People naturally won't feel the same way about it as their classics because megadeth fans are older now and we aren't as emotionally attached to the music as we are when we grow up with it.

It rips!

 

[skoora]

I will give props to Metallica for basically staying a "band" for all these years. Megadeth has been Mustaine and hired guns for years. Imagine what Hetfield could do if he just had to hire super fresh and talented rhythm sections for each album. The more I think about it it's not a fair comparison. It's cool but also a shame Jame's cares so much about the "family" of a band and never had that breaking point with Lars creatively speaking.

Plus we'll never know for sure but in my gut I believe Cliff had a large part in how early Metallica arrangements were made. Maybe more him and James than Lars. I just can't believe that Lars was ever that talented.

 

[Joeytpg]

I will give props to Metallica for basically staying a "band" for all these years. Megadeth has been Mustaine and hired guns for years. Imagine what Hetfield could do if he just had to hire super fresh and talented rhythm sections for each album. The more I think about it it's not a fair comparison. It's cool but also a shame Jame's cares so much about the "family" of a band and never had that breaking point with Lars creatively speaking.

Plus we'll never know for sure but in my gut I believe Cliff had a large part in how early Metallica arrangements were made. Maybe more him and James than Lars. I just can't believe that Lars was ever that talented.

dude, don't let the Anti-lars feeling blind you.....if you've seen any metallica documentary in the studio you can clearly see that Lars has A LOT to do with the production of every metallica record.... IMO the problem with lars has been the lack of hunger to prove people wrong and a HUGE lack of PRACTICE...... his drumming on Ride/Master/Justice was actually very good..... not up to par with Lombardo/Jordison etc.... but very good. Nowadays he's sucking a lot I'm aware.

But when it comes to production and arrangements Lars has been pivotal in Metallica's success.

Again, IMO a band is not about how technically you are, it's about how good your fans and the band feel about the material and the whole experience (records, touring, etc) and Metallica seems to be the biggest band in Heavy Metal, simply because of that..........the metallica fans simply LOVE metallica man, and they love the music and the energy, no matter if lars is out of time or james is pitchy here and there.......or even if Hammett's bends are way off.

 

[Jimmie]

Again, IMO a band is not about how technically you are, it's about how good your fans and the band feel about the material and the whole experience (records, touring, etc)

Slayer for instance?

 

[skoora]

dude, don't let the Anti-lars feeling blind you.....if you've seen any metallica documentary in the studio you can clearly see that Lars has A LOT to do with the production of every metallica record.... .

The only production I've seen from Lars in those vids is him trying to piece together a useable take out of the 10 takes of drums on one song Plus there's no footage of them in the studio for the first three or even Justice so we'll never know. I definitely believe he played a big part in Load and onward because they all suck balls.

I'll never forget footage from Some Kind Of Monster where James is playing a pretty good riff and Lars just goes on about it being too stock and he just plays the most awful attempt at off time drumming. It's classic amateur player trying too hard to appear better than they are and flailing where a true drummer would just lay down what rocked for the groove and the riff. I'm sorry but I just can't stand his playing and believe he's dragged Metallica into the mediocrity they've enjoyed for 15 years.