Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier vs. Mark V vs. Bogner Twin Jet

[Mailman1971]

I wonder if there was something wrong with that Recto? Normally a Mark is naturally thinner (or more focused) sounding than a Recto... .

Yup.....owned the Mark III (red stripe) and the IV.....
and the Dual Recto CRUSHES them both!
My opinion only....

 

[AmpliFIRE]

A recto with a clean boost is a thing of beauty

 

[Mailman1971]

A recto with a clean boost is a thing of beauty

amen.......


amp sounds insane......

 

[roadifier]

The trem-overb I Recently got is a great amp! It blows my 50 caliber out of water for that huge aggressive sound.

 

[::fred::]

this man speaks the truth. Also the Recto's kill in a band mix and amp tones that kill in a band mix don't always wow you by yourself in a room.

I would also add that a modded recto will sound good by itself, no need for any booster in front of the amp Usual mods take care of the low end flabbiness.

 

[Mailman1971]

this man speaks the truth. Also the Recto's kill in a band mix and amp tones that kill in a band mix don't always wow you by yourself in a room.

I would also add that a modded recto will sound good by itself, no need for any booster in front of the amp Usual mods take care of the low end flabbiness.

Yup....had a FJA modded Single channel that just SMOKED!!
Just plug straight in and rock.
Recently picked up a Dual Recto that will be going to FJA for the mods once he starts taking on new amps.
Sounds good stock boosted....but the modded Recto is pure BLISS!

 

[Ron Paul]

i LOVE DIRTY RECTUMS!!! 92 -97 TRIP

 

[blackba]

Its too bad you didn't try a Roadster, would have been interesting to get your take on the Roadster versus Mark V debate that my buddy is currently considering.

Keep in mind on the gain, just cause you find plenty at 2:30 on the volume dial, doesn't mean the rest of the travel of the knob is usable gain. I myself would rather be able to max out the gain and have it all be usable, provided that max gain setting is the max gain I would ever use.

 

[leib10]

They had a Roadster there, but I didn't have time to play it.

On the Uberschall and especially the Twin Jet, the gain is all usable. Believe me.

 

[blackba]

They had a Roadster there, but I didn't have time to play it.

On the Uberschall and especially the Twin Jet, the gain is all usable. Believe me.

That is good to know. I have very little experience with Bogners....

 

[leib10]

One difference I immediately noticed between the Mark V and the Twin Jet is that when you start pushing the gain on the Mesa past around 4 o'clock it starts to get a bit fizzy and undefined. A big difference compared to the Twin Jet, which has always surprised me at how defined it can get with unbelievably thick gain.

 

[K-mark5]

leib10.. this does not make much sense:

first post: (TJ) 'It was a bit flubbier than the Mark V, but boosting it with my TS-9 took care of that '

last post: One difference I immediately noticed between the Mark V and the Twin Jet is that when you start pushing the gain on the Mesa past around 4 o'clock it starts to get a bit fizzy and undefined. A big difference compared to the Twin Jet, which has always surprised me at how defined it can get with unbelievably thick gain


i've got a mark 5, it tends to get fizzy if you dont know how to dial it right in terms of presence, treble and gain controls and its uber picky about pickups.. my BKP painkillers sounded like shit through my mk5, i changed it to holydivers and the overal FQ range shifted towards a nice full tone.. couldn't be happier

 

[Beret]

Maybe so. That and being pretty thin. But the Mark V has a bit of an emphasis on the upper mids, and it didn't nearly as thin. Probably the most overrated piece of gear I've played in recent memory, even if it was for all of five minutes.

I wonder if there was something wrong with that Recto? Normally a Mark is naturally thinner (or more focused) sounding than a Recto... the proverbial scalpel next to the sledgehammer. I can understand people not liking it for a lot of the things they dislike them for... but being too thin usually isn't one of them.

In my experience "thin" typically happens when too much of the midrange is pulled out. I've seen countless people apply too much gain and scoop too much and then wonder why it sounds thin and doesn't cut. Not saying that was the case here, but it's common.

That being said, it is true that not all Rectos are created equal. I've heard some that are better than others, even setup similarly.

~B

 

[leib10]

leib10.. this does not make much sense:

first post: (TJ) 'It was a bit flubbier than the Mark V, but boosting it with my TS-9 took care of that '

last post: One difference I immediately noticed between the Mark V and the Twin Jet is that when you start pushing the gain on the Mesa past around 4 o'clock it starts to get a bit fizzy and undefined. A big difference compared to the Twin Jet, which has always surprised me at how defined it can get with unbelievably thick gain


i've got a mark 5, it tends to get fizzy if you dont know how to dial it right in terms of presence, treble and gain controls and its uber picky about pickups.. my BKP painkillers sounded like shit through my mk5, i changed it to holydivers and the overal FQ range shifted towards a nice full tone.. couldn't be happier

I think I meant to say that rhythm-wise, the Twin Jet is a bit flubby with EL34's compared to the Mark V. When it comes to leads with either type of tube, the Twin Jet is a bit more articulate. I think somewhere between the dozen or so posts between the two, the message got lost. Or I just failed to articulate it properly.

 

[Beret]

Its too bad you didn't try a Roadster, would have been interesting to get your take on the Roadster versus Mark V debate that my buddy is currently considering.

Keep in mind on the gain, just cause you find plenty at 2:30 on the volume dial, doesn't mean the rest of the travel of the knob is usable gain. I myself would rather be able to max out the gain and have it all be usable, provided that max gain setting is the max gain I would ever use.

Yeah, the Roadsters are becoming more and more popular as people realize that 1. they're more than dual rectifiers and 2. even the channels that are supposed to be like a dual rectifier are better. I suspect the Roadsters are the reasons Mesa made improvements to the regular rectifier line recently.

~B