dfrattaroli
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Dude's a troll. Joined RT just to post 3 times to bash Mesa. Ass-hat.
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Anonymous
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recto oversized=greatest cab ever! Love mine and would never part with them as long as I own amp heads!
mightywarlock
Well-known member
I have had 5 Mesa Cabs.
3 Rectifier Standards (oversized),
1- Rectifier Traditional
1-2x12 Recto
I have sold all 3 of the Standard Rectos.
I have kept the 2x12 and Traditional
I also have a Marshall 1960AV, and MF400 (loaded with K100's).
The MF400 is for sale, so i can put the cash towards a Mills.
The 1960AV is old, and kicks major butt. sounds really good.
My viewpoint...
It took me awhile to realize how I did not like the scooped affect of the Standard Recto Cabs.
YES, they sounded thunderous. However, like everyone has learned, Guitars are a midrange instrument, so scoop out the mids, and you get lost in a mix.
They were too big and boomy, and I felt they were loose.
I strived for tighter, and tried the Traditional.
It's a bit narrow fielded, but always sounds pretty much the same. and pretty tight.
Not great with all heads, but then no one cab can sound great with all heads. otherwise there wouldn't be a need for so many different flavors.
I do think a good mix is V30's and K100's. all K100's are huge and boomy.
All V30's are a little bright and midrangy.
the mix sounds pretty good, however.
3 Rectifier Standards (oversized),
1- Rectifier Traditional
1-2x12 Recto
I have sold all 3 of the Standard Rectos.
I have kept the 2x12 and Traditional
I also have a Marshall 1960AV, and MF400 (loaded with K100's).
The MF400 is for sale, so i can put the cash towards a Mills.
The 1960AV is old, and kicks major butt. sounds really good.
My viewpoint...
It took me awhile to realize how I did not like the scooped affect of the Standard Recto Cabs.
YES, they sounded thunderous. However, like everyone has learned, Guitars are a midrange instrument, so scoop out the mids, and you get lost in a mix.
They were too big and boomy, and I felt they were loose.
I strived for tighter, and tried the Traditional.
It's a bit narrow fielded, but always sounds pretty much the same. and pretty tight.
Not great with all heads, but then no one cab can sound great with all heads. otherwise there wouldn't be a need for so many different flavors.
I do think a good mix is V30's and K100's. all K100's are huge and boomy.
All V30's are a little bright and midrangy.
the mix sounds pretty good, however.
stephen sawall
Well-known member
With the amount of time this cab has been around and all the people that have used them ..... it is only a matter of taste if someone likes them or not.
Personally I am not a huge fan of "over sized" or "tall" cabs. The smaller Stiletto 4x12 Mesa Cab is much more to my taste. My favorite cabs by any maker regardless of what speakers are in them have always been 30x30x14.
Personally I am not a huge fan of "over sized" or "tall" cabs. The smaller Stiletto 4x12 Mesa Cab is much more to my taste. My favorite cabs by any maker regardless of what speakers are in them have always been 30x30x14.
OldSkoolNJ
Active member
A lot of those HC reviews are so full of shit I have to wonder if the people even played or played through what they are reviewing..
To me it comes off as a bunch of Nut swinging, Nut bashing,fake spam shit..
To me it comes off as a bunch of Nut swinging, Nut bashing,fake spam shit..
stephen sawall
Well-known member
HC reviews are in general not very reliable.
OldSkoolNJ
Active member
stephen sawall":37lqd7p3 said:
Good I thought it was just me
I love the I played it for a few minutes at Guitar Center reviews
stephen sawall
Well-known member
OldSkoolNJ":1u6h7vep said:stephen sawall":1u6h7vep said:
Good I thought it was just me
I love the I played it for a few minutes at Guitar Center reviews
A friend of mine reads them just looking for the most ridicules ones. Some are very funny.
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Shiny_Surface
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chunkitup":3hgz1b6d said:
I haven't seen Mesa OS 4x12's hyped since the late 90's. They have been standard fodder for internet bashing for years now.
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Anonymous
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go to the Sneap board and you'll get a largely different opinion of this cab! 
followed by clips and impulses that will let you hear it's potential
followed by clips and impulses that will let you hear it's potential
stratotone
Active member
No single cab is 'be all, end all' for all heads/playing styles of music.
I have an oversize mesa (with armor) from '92, it KILLS with my dual recto rackmount. However, I hated my SLO through it and my Bogner 101B.
Best cab for the 101B was a bogner. Best cab for the SLO was a V30 loaded recent Marshall 'vintage' 4x12.
The mesa cabs that I don't like at all are the half open back ones... they sound great for cleans, but for lots of gain? I'll pass.
Pete
I have an oversize mesa (with armor) from '92, it KILLS with my dual recto rackmount. However, I hated my SLO through it and my Bogner 101B.
Best cab for the 101B was a bogner. Best cab for the SLO was a V30 loaded recent Marshall 'vintage' 4x12.
The mesa cabs that I don't like at all are the half open back ones... they sound great for cleans, but for lots of gain? I'll pass.
Pete
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brandondrury
New member
I did some testing on this recently. I found my Rivera Knucklehead, 1971 100 watt Marshall Superlead, and 5150 all have dramatically different needs in the cabinet department. In short, the cabinet that sounds great on the Rivera doesn't sound great on the 5150 and vice versa. This is all documented in an upcoming article on my site.
I think singling out the V30 as a "flawed" design is illogical because there have been entire genres of tone based around that speaker. Whether a person enjoys that or not is purely subjective.
For the longest time I was using a ghetto 1x12 wedge monitor with a G12H30. It worked EXTREMELY well with the 5150, but the Rivera took real work to get to sound good, and the Marshall Superlead simply was not happening. The natural scoopage of the 5150 tends to avoid the boxy stuff. The Superlead will get boxy in a hurry. The Rivera is kinda half and half.
The Rivera really came to life through a Greenback cab and is my favorite sound of all my toys, but sounded WAAAAAAY too nu-metal for my tastes through a standard Boogie Recto 4x12 cab. My Marshall does the Thin Lizzy kind of sound through the Greenbacks, but I actually liked it quite a bit through the Recto.
I've just now acquired a 4x12 with G12H30s, a 4x12 with Greenbacks, and my own Recto cab so I'll be reamping through all the various cabinets and posting my results soon.
I'm 100% convinced that mating the right amp and cab is just as important as mating the right guitar and head.....maybe a hair more importantly, actually.
Brandon
I think singling out the V30 as a "flawed" design is illogical because there have been entire genres of tone based around that speaker. Whether a person enjoys that or not is purely subjective.
For the longest time I was using a ghetto 1x12 wedge monitor with a G12H30. It worked EXTREMELY well with the 5150, but the Rivera took real work to get to sound good, and the Marshall Superlead simply was not happening. The natural scoopage of the 5150 tends to avoid the boxy stuff. The Superlead will get boxy in a hurry. The Rivera is kinda half and half.
The Rivera really came to life through a Greenback cab and is my favorite sound of all my toys, but sounded WAAAAAAY too nu-metal for my tastes through a standard Boogie Recto 4x12 cab. My Marshall does the Thin Lizzy kind of sound through the Greenbacks, but I actually liked it quite a bit through the Recto.
I've just now acquired a 4x12 with G12H30s, a 4x12 with Greenbacks, and my own Recto cab so I'll be reamping through all the various cabinets and posting my results soon.
I'm 100% convinced that mating the right amp and cab is just as important as mating the right guitar and head.....maybe a hair more importantly, actually.
Brandon
Big Rich
Active member
i love the recto 4x12 i used to own the stilletto cab and the recto cab and would a/b them all the time....every amp i threw at the recto cab sounded better, i wasnt a huge fan of the trad/stilletto cab i thought that cab was very boxy and didnt cut in the mix at all
the recto cab filled the room soooo much better and had a much bigger overall sound to it
i still like it better than the bogner 4x12 cabs ive owned also....the recto 4x12 is prob my fav 4x12 cab ever
the recto cab filled the room soooo much better and had a much bigger overall sound to it
i still like it better than the bogner 4x12 cabs ive owned also....the recto 4x12 is prob my fav 4x12 cab ever
stephen sawall
Well-known member
brandondrury .... welcome to the forum 
I completely agree about the vintage 30.
I completely agree about the vintage 30.
JakeAC5253
New member
stephen sawall":1jnlv1ry said:brandondrury .... welcome to the forum
Ditto
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Jay Strange
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When I rocked Mesa's, the best set up I had was a Stilletto Ace with Recto 4X12.
But with the Roadster it didn't work so well.
But with the Roadster it didn't work so well.
some dude
Active member
chunkitup":2s9tlk6j said:
So... you normally use a scooped speaker with strong highs and lows and now you're using a mid heavy speaker with recessed highs and lows and you are surprised that there is a mid frequency that comes across as nasally?
Need I say more?
The review was written by a moron. V30s are intentionally voiced the way they are... they're a touch harsh/nasal on their own, but they punch hard, cut through the mix like a knife, help keep bass heavy amps from interfering with the bass/kick, smooth out high gain and microphones love them.
The Recto 4x12 is also loved in the recording community.
EXPcustom
Well-known member
FYI the speakers changed after 2003, which version were you using? Pre or post 03? 
JakeAC5253
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some dude":oo3syhhs said:
I am growing quite fond of your posts
some dude":oo3syhhs said:
You can say that about 40 more times, and at least this community (me and the voices in my head) would agree with you.
some dude
Active member
JakeAC5253":2nsjyhel said:
I was actually kind of against the Recto 4x12 until I started reading what the recording community was saying about it. Their viewpoint totally re-framed how I listen to that cab.
I think that as a guitarist it's easy to get hung up in how something sounds when it's sitting directly in front of you, even though to the audience what really matters is how it sounds to a microphone.