Mesa dual rec, revision identification help!

[prsplayer86]

Hey gang, any one want to tell me what revision this thing is ?
Power cable is attached to the chassis and it's the 2 channel version.
Serial number is R-006234


Pics below

Thanks !

 

[jayd41]

Ealier revision G

 

[prsplayer86]

Thank you sir!

 

[BrentSSL]

If it has the small logo look at the actual board because sometimes there's a Rev F board inside those and you can check what transformers you have here http://oxyde.clan.free.fr/dualrectifier.htm

 

[cardinal]

It has a parallel loop, so almost surely a Rev G irrespective of the size of the logo or how the power cord attached.

 

[prsplayer86]

I got this thing to flip, so I just need to know what Rev it most likely is. I won't pull the chassis unless I cant get the thing cleaned up without doing so or if I've got to throw a set of tubes in it. I don't care about the whole pre 500 thing very much; just curious about what Revision to put in a listing if I decide to trade it.

Rev G works for me! thanks again guys

 

[BrentSSL]

It has a parallel loop, so almost surely a Rev G irrespective of the size of the logo or how the power cord attached.

Sometimes early revision Gs have different boards in them and schumacher transformers and it's just kind of fun to look at the amp and check

 

[anomaly]

So is the early dual rectifier the one to get? are all the later ones not nearly as good or what?

 

[borninwinter]

It's almost certainly a Rev G, but the only way to know for sure is to look at the circuit board. It will be shown under the line of 4 blue caps "RF-1G" means Rev G. "RF-1F" for F.

 

[cardinal]

So is the early dual rectifier the one to get? are all the later ones not nearly as good or what?

Probably better to Google around since there's more info out there than any of us could retype. The earlier versions of the 2-channels were brighter and had worse cleans. Over time it got darker and the cleans improved. None are worse than the others. If you have a Rev G (the last version of the 2-channel), just crank up the presence and don't worry about it.

The one key difference is that the pre-Rev G versions have a serial loop. Rev G went with a parallel loop that is truly terrible. I just bypass it and never use it. It's awful IMHO.

 

[borninwinter]

So is the early dual rectifier the one to get? are all the later ones not nearly as good or what?

Its all in your preference. Rev F is perceived as brighter/tighter, while Rev G is thought of as looser darker. Never had any earlier revisions, but have heard the changes are mostly in the clean channel. These are small differences and you probably won't notice too much if you havent spent much time with rectos generally. That said, the Rev F would be my favorite iteration (tried rev f, g, reborn, and roadster).

 

[BrentSSL]

Borninwinter pretty much hit the nail on the head below is my chronological Rectifier journey and what I thought.

My first dual rec was a 3 channel 06 or 03 can't remember the year it was awesome wish I'd never sold it.
Second was a chrome chassis blackface 2 channel Rev G dual rec I did not like it gigged it briefly but just didn't have good tone my singer called it the rage cage it could have had problems I was unaware of.
Soon followed by a 3 channel triple awesome amp no Idea why I sold it think to get a triaxis 290 rig I hated I loved the triple as much as the first 3 channel.
Briefly another dual rectifier 3 channel and 3 channel triple did not have the same magic as the other 3 channel dual and triple rectifiers.
Reborn Multi watt came after that fizzy static excuse for a rectifier I tried 2 of these I thought maybe one had bad preamp tubes.
Rack mount Rev G dual Amazeballs great amp gigged it a bunch took this amp to help me realize the magic I had with my first 3 channel dual and three channel triple ugh those amps will haunt me forever and so will the rack mount Rev G that I sold for a Markv.
Dual rectifier early Rev G not worth mentioning it was so brief however it led me to my current RevF which is awesome and so far the best rectifier In have ever heard.

My prognosis I feel like then 2000s triple recs can have that magic if you find the right one. I feel my first dual e channel had that same magic and honestly not far off from my Rev F and Rev G rackmounted dual those are by far my favorite rectifiers I have owned.
My advice you find a Mesa rectifier that has that little extra something keep it and try not to get caught up in the vicious world of amp flipping and chasing a tone that doesn't exist.

 

[BrentSSL]

So is the early dual rectifier the one to get? are all the later ones not nearly as good or what?

Probably better to Google around since there's more info out there than any of us could retype. The earlier versions of the 2-channels were brighter and had worse cleans. Over time it got darker and the cleans improved. None are worse than the others. If you have a Rev G (the last version of the 2-channel), just crank up the presence and don't worry about it.

The one key difference is that the pre-Rev G versions have a serial loop. Rev G went with a parallel loop that is truly terrible. I just bypass it and never use it. It's awful IMHO.

Well there is no presence on channel 2 of the three channel lol jk

 

[phil b]

Rev C. if you can find one.

 

[fretout]

There's differences between each of NOT on just be clean channel. The biggest differences are on the distorted Vintage and Modern settings. All of the two-channels have a big, "3D" type of tone due to the layers of harmonic overtones. The differences in the tone can be summarized as being tighter and more aggressive with the early revisions, and progressively get darker and looser the later you go. While it is true the cleans aren't all that powerful on the early revisions, the grit of the gain and try power of the low mids makes the early revisions the ones to get if you have the option.

Just my .02, but the Revision G is the best 2-channel as far as having a good hi-gain rhythm and a good, usable clean on separate channels (apart from the 3-channels and multi-watts). It's much looser that my "pre-500", but it's the best example of what a Rectifier is. The only downside is that they seem to be selling for $800 - $1,000 or so, while the earlier Rectos fetch a premium.

The whole pre-500 thing maybe overhyped, but there is some truth to why they are desirable. While most Rectos have a few decent settings, these early Rectos don't have a bad tone in them. It's more than just a presence knob tweak (which focuses on a certain midrange), the gain knob and treble knob gives the early Rectos more bite and makes them tighter and tighter to where you can focus on the midrange much easier than the late Rectos.

 

[anomaly]

I didn't realize there were so many revisions of this amplifier?? How about the new Reborn? do they stack up well against the early two channels?
I love Devin Townsend's tone with the Dual Rectifier, and he just uses the 3 channel versions I think?? I think he runs it with el34's too?? i've heard good things about that. Also, do the 3 channel rectos have a more aggressive high gain tone versus the two channels?... I've played a few recto's over the years but I never paid attention to what kinda recto they were??... they all had a similar sound and needed a boost of some kind to get a really tight low end. Sounded massive through the Recto Standard cab!

 

[BrentSSL]

Yeah he's got great tone there's actually a video of him playing a Multiwatt I really want to get another one and give it more time I'm just a recto guy like that lol

 

[some dude]

I have both a Rev F and Roadster. I mostly use the Roadster.

 

[prsplayer86]

What ever Transformers this thing running, there isnt a dang thing wrong with it. I was able to dial in a fantastic tone with this thing in a matter of seconds. Orange Channel set right could handle just about anything you could ever want to do. Gnarly amp

 

[RJF]

Don't even need to open it up to check the board. Serial number is way too high to be a rev F. Orange channel modern with a boost is where it's at on these.