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[Beyond Black]

I’ve got some first world guitar player problems here, and need a bit of advice....So I just scored a beautiful Rev F Dual Recto. It’s in excellent shape and sounds killer. Here’s my problem. I’ve also got a Rev G Triple Recto and they sound VERY similar. Of course the Triple hits harder and sounds bigger, and the Dual is tighter and more pissed, but they are much more similar than they are different, and keeping both would be redundant. If I sold one, the Dual would go, but it’s so killer, I’d really like to keep it. Should I have the Triple modded with the Rev C mod? Would it then be much different than the Dual, or still very similar? I was gonna send it out anyway and have the loop mod done and have it serviced. What exactly does the Rev C Mod do? I heard it makes the amp brighter with more mids. Does it still retain that big low end? Will the mids be overbearing? Does it still bring the brootz? What say you?!!!

 

[Metlupass2]

Where did you find the rev F?

 

[Little B]

I'm a mk series fan,but I know there's a lot of recto fans out there too.I know you're wanting to unload one( as the o.p.states), but I've learned hard lessons in letting some gear go that I'm now kicking myself for doing that.
..ive actually had to buy gear back for a second time due to my unedumacated reasoning at the time.lol.
Unless you're strapped for coin,I'd play em both, enjoy them for what they are. But I totally get where you're coming from..no right or wrong answer.

 

[Beyond Black]

Where did you find the rev F?

It was on Reverb for maybe a day. I bought it Tuesday, and it arrived today.

 

[Beyond Black]

I'm a mk series fan,but I know there's a lot of recto fans out there too.I know you're wanting to unload one( as the o.p.states), but I've learned hard lessons in letting some gear go that I'm now kicking myself for doing that.
..ive actually had to buy gear back for a second time due to my unedumacated reasoning at the time.lol.
Unless you're strapped for coin,I'd play em both, enjoy them for what they are. But I totally get where you're coming from..no right or wrong answer.

Yeah, I think I’m gonna hang on to it for awhile either way. It’s a killer Recto, and I’ll definitely enjoy the hell out of it, despite its similarities with the Triple.

 

[Racerxrated]

I’ve got some first world guitar player problems here, and need a bit of advice....So I just scored a beautiful Rev F Dual Recto. It’s in excellent shape and sounds killer. Here’s my problem. I’ve also got a Rev G Triple Recto and they sound VERY similar. Of course the Triple hits harder and sounds bigger, and the Dual is tighter and more pissed, but they are much more similar than they are different, and keeping both would be redundant. If I sold one, the Dual would go, but it’s so killer, I’d really like to keep it. Should I have the Triple modded with the Rev C mod? Would it then be much different than the Dual, or still very similar? I was gonna send it out anyway and have the loop mod done and have it serviced. What exactly does the Rev C Mod do? I heard it makes the amp brighter with more mids. Does it still retain that big low end? Will the mids be overbearing? Does it still bring the brootz? What say you?!!!

Rev G Triples are pretty abundant..I'd definitely consider getting the C mod. It's fairly cheap; when my Coliseum was with Mike B I asked him and it was less than 200 for the mod. You can always find another down the road if you want the G tone. Or....
You could send both amps to Mike B and have him swap preamp boards; for a real Rev F Triple!

I say this because I just scored one and as much as I dug the previous blackface G triple I had, the F is on a whole other level. It's not that much different eq-wise, its brighter and warmer with almost as much low end as the G. But the clarity/string separation is better, and the best way to describe what I hear is when you got your Monomyth, it was not just a good Marshall it is a GREAT Marshall. That's my feeling on the difference between the Rev G Triple I had vs the Rev F I just got.

But back to the C mod...try listening to clips of the Rev C..they are more Marshall/Mesa and cut through the mix better. You'll lose the clean channel though, if that matters. If I hadn't found a Rev F Triple my plan was to find a G Triple and send it in.

 

[psychodave]

When I had my Rev F Recto I played it against my friends Rev C Recto. I liked my Rev F more. The C is super bright to my ears.

That said Mike B can easily mod to anything for cheap.

 

[cardinal]

I like the tightness of the Triples but IMHO the tone is flat or more boring than the Dual, which doesn't have as tight bass but just sounds richer and more pleasing to me.

I've had a C and an F at the same time. They are more similar than different. The C is definitely brighter and tighter. It would set off my tinnitus if the presence was up more than about 10 o'clock (which was pretty bright already). The F could sound very similar, you just have to use more sweep of the presence.

In general the C was tighter and angrier and the F was deeper and smoother. But if you can't make either work, then you might just not like Rectos at all.

 

[stephen sawall]

I would take a G over any of the others.

 

[endofall]

I had a three channel revision G tripple that I never bonded with. I however believe that had more to do with operator error than it did with the amp. I currently have a early revision G two channel dual rectifier, small logo etc, but it has the parellel loop instead of the series. The amp was messed up when I bought it and I got it dirt cheap so I sent in to be restored and had them perform the revision C mod. I love it and it is easly one of my favorite amps. It is brighter, and to me more pissed off. It still has more than enough lows. Here is a band that i recorded using it and a Ceriatone yeti blended in but I feel like you can still hear the recto in this.

 

[Racerxrated]

I like the tightness of the Triples but IMHO the tone is flat or more boring than the Dual, which doesn't have as tight bass but just sounds richer and more pleasing to me.

I've had a C and an F at the same time. They are more similar than different. The C is definitely brighter and tighter. It would set off my tinnitus if the presence was up more than about 10 o'clock (which was pretty bright already). The F could sound very similar, you just have to use more sweep of the presence.

In general the C was tighter and angrier and the F was deeper and smoother. But if you can't make either work, then you might just not like Rectos at all.

I found the differences between the Rev G Duals vs Rev G Triples to be the opposite, other than the tightness aspect...when you get the G Triple up in volume it has more of an organic quality to it than the 2 Rev G duals I had briefly. The biggest issue I had with the duals was the 'bloated' low end that wouldn't go away no matter how I boosted it or dialed in the bass. No problem with the Triples.

But my new to me Rev F Triple takes the cake...it's very close to the 2 early Rev G Triples I owned but with more warmth and brightness, and the clarity is a big step above the G Triples I owned, both of which were in the 4000 range serials.
I thought about sending it in for the C mod if it was too similar to the G but it sounds damn near perfect for what I like to hear..with a boost it's very Marshall-like but with crushing low end and a softer/more pleasing high end, great upper mids too.
This one has a bias mod to it, and it was at 49ma under bold/diode settings...lowered it to 40ma and wow what an improvement.
Just a killer amp and sounds different enough from my C+ and Marshall to complement them nicely.

 

[Beyond Black]

I’ve got some first world guitar player problems here, and need a bit of advice....So I just scored a beautiful Rev F Dual Recto. It’s in excellent shape and sounds killer. Here’s my problem. I’ve also got a Rev G Triple Recto and they sound VERY similar. Of course the Triple hits harder and sounds bigger, and the Dual is tighter and more pissed, but they are much more similar than they are different, and keeping both would be redundant. If I sold one, the Dual would go, but it’s so killer, I’d really like to keep it. Should I have the Triple modded with the Rev C mod? Would it then be much different than the Dual, or still very similar? I was gonna send it out anyway and have the loop mod done and have it serviced. What exactly does the Rev C Mod do? I heard it makes the amp brighter with more mids. Does it still retain that big low end? Will the mids be overbearing? Does it still bring the brootz? What say you?!!!

Rev G Triples are pretty abundant..I'd definitely consider getting the C mod. It's fairly cheap; when my Coliseum was with Mike B I asked him and it was less than 200 for the mod. You can always find another down the road if you want the G tone. Or....
You could send both amps to Mike B and have him swap preamp boards; for a real Rev F Triple!

I say this because I just scored one and as much as I dug the previous blackface G triple I had, the F is on a whole other level. It's not that much different eq-wise, its brighter and warmer with almost as much low end as the G. But the clarity/string separation is better, and the best way to describe what I hear is when you got your Monomyth, it was not just a good Marshall it is a GREAT Marshall. That's my feeling on the difference between the Rev G Triple I had vs the Rev F I just got.

But back to the C mod...try listening to clips of the Rev C..they are more Marshall/Mesa and cut through the mix better. You'll lose the clean channel though, if that matters. If I hadn't found a Rev F Triple my plan was to find a G Triple and send it in.

I’ve listened to clips of the C and I dig it. My amp is definitely on the dark and loose side, so I think brighter and tighter would be cool. And, my amp has a clean channel?

 

[Beyond Black]

When I had my Rev F Recto I played it against my friends Rev C Recto. I liked my Rev F more. The C is super bright to my ears.

That said Mike B can easily mod to anything for cheap.

But can that brightness be dialed down and managed, or is it always there? I had an Aldrich that was extremely bright and I just couldn’t manage it. It was either too dark or too bright. Does Mike B do any other mods?

 

[Beyond Black]

I like the tightness of the Triples but IMHO the tone is flat or more boring than the Dual, which doesn't have as tight bass but just sounds richer and more pleasing to me.

I've had a C and an F at the same time. They are more similar than different. The C is definitely brighter and tighter. It would set off my tinnitus if the presence was up more than about 10 o'clock (which was pretty bright already). The F could sound very similar, you just have to use more sweep of the presence.

In general the C was tighter and angrier and the F was deeper and smoother. But if you can't make either work, then you might just not like Rectos at all.

Yes, I’m actually enjoying the differences of both amps. I definitely favor the Triple and the way it hits like a jackhammer in the low end. Does a C still do that? Does it still have plenty of low end, just tighter?

 

[Beyond Black]

I had a three channel revision G tripple that I never bonded with. I however believe that had more to do with operator error than it did with the amp. I currently have a early revision G two channel dual rectifier, small logo etc, but it has the parellel loop instead of the series. The amp was messed up when I bought it and I got it dirt cheap so I sent in to be restored and had them perform the revision C mod. I love it and it is easly one of my favorite amps. It is brighter, and to me more pissed off. It still has more than enough lows. Here is a band that i recorded using it and a Ceriatone yeti blended in but I feel like you can still hear the recto in this.

Very cool tune and guitar tone.

 

[Racerxrated]

When I had my Rev F Recto I played it against my friends Rev C Recto. I liked my Rev F more. The C is super bright to my ears.

That said Mike B can easily mod to anything for cheap.

I’d have
But can that brightness be dialed down and managed, or is it always there? I had an Aldrich that was extremely bright and I just couldn’t manage it. It was either too dark or too bright. Does Mike B do any other mods?

The Rev C mod is 80% of the way there; from guys who have a real C and a modded G to a C. There are some differences; I don't think the modded G to C can get as bright as the original. But it's close. This is from someone who has both. But he loves the huge low end in combination with the improved tightness and cut/brightness.

 

[Metlupass2]

Where did you find the rev F?

It was on Reverb for maybe a day. I bought it Tuesday, and it arrived today.

Nice. You got a great deal on it!

 

[Flavatrocious]

I had a bad ass 2 channel Dual recto and my reborn triple. Too similar to keep both for sure. Kept the triple. I dig the beastiness of the triple. Has the edge. Personal preference of course.

Try EL34’s before you dump one.

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

The Rev C mod is 80% of the way there; from guys who have a real C and a modded G to a C. There are some differences; I don't think the modded G to C can get as bright as the original. But it's close. This is from someone who has both. But he loves the huge low end in combination with the improved tightness and cut/brightness.

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

When I had my Rev F Recto I played it against my friends Rev C Recto. I liked my Rev F more. The C is super bright to my ears.

Some of us like bright amps.

One person's bright... is another's focused and articulate. YMMV.