Metropoulus Might Not Recover from COVID

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lll":2hoxm0yc said:
You do that. In fact, you should have taken that very same advice from another poster early on and done so then, as a business owner. But you're simply not that smart.

Right, I must not be that smart. 40,000 speakers, 14,000 clients, 3 million plus in sales and 16 years later, I must have lucked into it all, right? OK, feel free to use my material, lines, etc...you obviously can't generate them on your own. And as a non business owner, maybe you should stop doing what you're doing before your boss catches you on the internet again without permission, and terminates you for insubordination, or being just a jerk...or both.

If you do decide to reply, humor us all, post your real name, your exact gripe with George, and your reasons for wishing his business fails. Maybe you actually have a good reason, or maybe you don't. For sure no one will know of your grievance under the moniker "III".

Here's hoping your cycle doesn't last all month, because I bet tampons are as difficult to procure as toilet paper, paper towels, sanitary napkins and all that stuff.
 
Krull":226si3jv said:
So capitalism doesn’t work because governments enforce business lockdowns. And that’s capitalism’s fault because? Sounds more like a government problem.

Feel free to move to Venezuela. I hear they are doing even better than ever with covid-19 lockdowns.

Hey Krull! I have a few non gear related questions regarding the way Canada handles healthcare, doctor appointments, specialists and all that stuff. I have a few clients in Canada who have told me some things, but it'd be something I'd like to ask you if you don't mind.

I'll keep it short...but if you have the time, email me: sales@scumbackspeakers.com

Thanks!

Jim
 
Scumback Speakers":189n03ef said:
Right, I must not be that smart. 40,000 speakers, 14,000 clients, 3 million plus in sales and 16 years later, I must have lucked into it all, right?

All that can change in an instant when you open your big mouth. And you should know that. Is that something you're willing to risk? Apparently so. You should take a fucking hint from George, and have minions do the dirty work for you (but don't let anyone catch on, or you'll end up with the same "bad luck").

Scumback Speakers":189n03ef said:
OK, feel free to use my material, lines, etc...you obviously can't generate them on your own.

Stealing my lines again. For the last time, try coming up with your own schtick, Einstein.

Scumback Speakers":189n03ef said:
And as a non business owner, maybe you should stop doing what you're doing before your boss catches you on the internet again without permission, and terminates you for insubordination, or being just a jerk...or both.

Fact: You don't know jack about me or what I do for a living.

Scumback Speakers":189n03ef said:
If you do decide to reply, humor us all, post your real name, your exact gripe with George, and your reasons for wishing his business fails. Maybe you actually have a good reason, or maybe you don't. For sure no one will know of your grievance under the moniker "III".

My beef with George is none of your fucking business. And anybody reading this thread will be asking themselves exactly why you're so invested in poking your nose where it doesn't belong, and why you're so adamant about defending a fuckhead.

Scumback Speakers":189n03ef said:
Here's hoping your cycle doesn't last all month, because I bet tampons are as difficult to procure as toilet paper, paper towels, sanitary napkins and all that stuff.

So much for all that yakking about how you were going to put me "ignore"... :scared:

One can easily surmise from all of this discourse that George is the boss of you, and you're his tool. :thumbsdown:
 
Krull":f94mgbno said:
So capitalism doesn’t work because governments enforce business lockdowns. And that’s capitalism’s fault because? Sounds more like a government problem.

Feel free to move to Venezuela. I hear they are doing even better than ever with covid-19 lockdowns.

No dumbass. Our capitalist Unites States works exactly as it has been setup. He who has the most money wins, greed is good. And our government that is controlled by the corporate billionaires will always work for the rich because that's how it's setup. Republican/Democrat, just an illusion to keep morons arguing while the billionaires who really run the country get to do as they please through lobbying. :doh:
 
We can keep this one simple, anyone who would hate on George is a toy. He's added so much to the culture, he'll make it out if he wants to, and we'll be there to help.
 
The III manifesto:

No manufacturer/paid poster sockpuppetry or gear bias on our forum - PM for details: Unless whatever I write online I could be held accountable for as slander.

Guitaramped.com Gear Forum: 404 error page not found

So successful that it no longer exists...and for the record, I sent George this thread link with your posts.

Answer from George: I have no idea who the III guy is. No one has ever expressed such anger with me. So I don't know.

You folks figure it out.
 
Scumback Speakers":1ykk3bqv said:
The III manifesto:

No manufacturer/paid poster sockpuppetry or gear bias on our forum - PM for details: Unless whatever I write online I could be held accountable for as slander.

Guitaramped.com Gear Forum: 404 error page not found

So successful that it no longer exists...and for the record, I sent George this thread link with your posts.

Answer from George: I have no idea who the III guy is. No one has ever expressed such anger with me. So I don't know.

You folks figure it out.

The forum in question has been closed for a while now; a new domain and forum will be forthcoming.

Now, I have a simple question for you:

Do you really want to go down this path? Just keep talking out of your ass, George's tool.
 
stoneage cabs":fb9nry9x said:
slyym":fb9nry9x said:
He can build amps from his mothers garage. Not sure how he’d go under if he didn’t want to.

That's false. George has a shop he owns & maintains, makes improvements to, insures etc. I should know as I have been there many times.

Times are definitely tough in this & most businesses at the moment. Wishing George all the best.

John I do know I have plans for your business in my 1974 restoration thread here on the forums in the tech corner. PM me as I’d like to have your expertise over the phone when all is said and done :)
 
glpg80":2xq8tuke said:
Damn y'all are some heartless dicks. The dudes married and has the same financial responsibilities the rest of us do and no health coverage because he's the owner.

I wonder why I even stay on this forum anymore.

Exactly. I have had businesses. Luckily successful on my endeavors. I am a lot younger than most of you, and have different backgrounds, but I would not even wish my enemy failure or show hatred to someone with a family putting food on the table.

When shit hits the fan, it isn't easy to survive. And especially with a business that is of a passion in life it would REALLY have to hurt.

My businesses have been bought and sold with the purpose of financial gain. So I have not had the passion in a business like an astounding amp builder does. His life's work is going under. I feel terrible for him and his family and wish him the best.

Most of you probably bring in more than me, but I can work 10-15 hours a week and enjoy time for myself, my daughter and my family.

I hate to see a small business fail. It's very saddening to me. It's dreams being crushed. Show some love.
 
Dang, that's sad news. Sad to see any small business that was around for so long and had such an influence on a scene. His forum was a great source for old Marshall info, as was Plexi palace.

Metro also, imo, really pushed the DIY Marshall scene. You could build/own a quality, hand-wired Marshall for less than $1k.

Maybe Metro will be back. Maybe repair amps for a little bit.

I wonder how BAD is going to do. They also sell $3,500+ Marshall-based amps. Seems like a hard-sell nowadays.
 
lll":1ru9q4z7 said:
The forum in question has been closed for a while now; a new domain and forum will be forthcoming.

Now, I have a simple question for you:

Do you really want to go down this path? Just keep talking out of your ass, George's tool.

You must really have it in for George, but he doesn't know who you are. I guess that begs the question.

Who are you?

As for being George's tool, as I said before, you have no clue as to what you're talking about. And frankly, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm sure if George and I were as successful at whatever it is you're talking about, I wouldn't have time to answer your ridiculous posts. And that's just exactly what they are. I'll quote George "Who is this idiot?"

I think that pretty much says it all. For the rest of you RT members, George says thanks for your concern about his business. He appreciates it.
 
Scumback Speakers":36aumabp said:
Who are you?

I drink and I know things. That's what I do.

Scumback Speakers":36aumabp said:
I'll quote George "Who is this idiot?"

I think that pretty much says it all. For the rest of you RT members, George says thanks for your concern about his business. He appreciates it.

Since when do you speak for George?

What, he's too lazy to post for himself, so he sends his tool Jim Seavall in his stead?

(Not bloody likely)

Hey, I have a couple questions:

Is it true you troll EBay, get people's cell numbers, and call them to threaten them because of their descriptions of the product (Scumback) they are trying to sell?

Is it true you have an axe to grind with WeberVST?


Because you see, I've been hearing things... :confused:

(Ah, the seedy underbelly of the guitar gear business... it's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it)
 
Well, I contacted George earlier today after your rant. Figured he should know if there was a real problem, and yeah, I gave you the benefit of the doubt that "maybe" you had a legitimate gripe. Sent him the thread link. I guess he came here and read it, but he said he has no idea who you are. That's pretty much the end of it for me.

As for whatever the rest of your drivel is about that's 9 years plus old, and well known news about WSVT and their shenanigans. Sure, it cost me about $70k for their screw ups, around 400 plus speakers replaced that they built so badly they had to be rebuilt or replaced with new speakers before they could be sold. That's not current news either, though.

As for the Ebay/trolling/cell phone whatever thing...eBay doesn't give out that information unless you've already done a deal, trade or auction with someone and it's gone south, or a patent/trademark infringement. Dumble used to do that. I've had unscrupulous Weber VST clients claim their Weber speakers were "Prototype Scumback Alnicos" when they knew better and lied about it in their auctions. I did have to email them about that auction to get it reworded (are you that guy?), but that was like 8 years ago. There's probably another 2-3 bozos who listed their stuff as Scumback this or that to make more money on a Weber frame, or a rebuilt Celestion frame, knowing full well it wasn't a real Scumback. I've even had Weber clients tell me it was my fault their Weber Legacy speakers didn't measure up to their Scumbacks, and thought that I should send them new ones for believing Weber VST's claims that they were the same as my current black frame models (which they're not, obviously). I had a good laugh about that...they sold their Legacies, and kept the Scumbacks, but felt I should replace their Legacies because they were lied to by Weber VST. That kept me rolling for a few hours, and the eBay seller was totally serious.

You really don't have much of a clue of what you're talking about, III, and it shows. You kind of have 1/4th or half the story, but not enough of it to do anything more than be amusingly troll-like.

So what's the plan now? You can't slander George well enough, so now you're turning your pathetic whining towards me? At least people know I stand up for honest people I know and defend them. You are just an unknown with incomplete knowledge, vague threats, and vaguely present, room temperature IQ.

Look when you're ready to man up and reveal who you really are, you let me know. My contact info is easy to find. Step up and call me tommorrow, why don't you? I doubt that will happen, though, because you just don't have what it takes to step up and be accountable for your action, posts. or accusations...do you?

So let's leave it at, you're a troll, you have no backbone, you're bored in lockdown, and you have nothing better to do than pull your gear pud out and flaunt it on people who don't know you. Because that's pretty much it, isn't it?

Look, it's late, your an ingrate, and I've got another busy day ahead of me tomorrow working, packing, building speakers and doing what I do. You should turn your attention to someone who will play with you more, and doesn't ask you valid questions about identity, dates, times, situations, meetings, etc...cuz you won't provide that.

And that just makes you look small, petty and childish. Quick, run to the bathroom, your tampon is bleeding out again.
 
George is a super cool dude and was always very nice an helpful to me. It would be really sad to see his business going down. If this unfortunate event would happen, I wish he will have a new shop soon, and start building a new super cool amp called Phoenix. All the best George.
 
I haven’t met George face to face, but sold him an amp on the early 2000s and he was a great person to deal with. I do respect his work and his business a lot, and feel very bad if he loses his business.
I really hope he is able to turn things around.
 
stoneage cabs":30cit6go said:
slyym":30cit6go said:
He can build amps from his mothers garage. Not sure how he’d go under if he didn’t want to.

That's false. George has a shop he owns & maintains, makes improvements to, insures etc. I should know as I have been there many times.

Times are definitely tough in this & most businesses at the moment. Wishing George all the best.


:thumbsup: Thanks John :thumbsup:
 
Monomyth":3q6lko3f said:
We can keep this one simple, anyone who would hate on George is a toy. He's added so much to the culture, he'll make it out if he wants to, and we'll be there to help.

Agreed. Metro has been a pretty positive influence in the Marshall amp community for many years, and George helped me out with some of my builds, too.
 
George is a great dude, I'd gladly buy an amp from him or send him some extra $$ to stay afloat. Have bought a cab from John's post (StoneAge) as well, glad to support the smaller builders. Anyone who wishes someone business to fold up (especially a good one) had serious effing issues.
 
Scumback Speakers":1dbqkljl said:
Well, I contacted George earlier today after your rant. Figured he should know if there was a real problem, and yeah, I gave you the benefit of the doubt that "maybe" you had a legitimate gripe. Sent him the thread link. I guess he came here and read it, but he said he has no idea who you are. That's pretty much the end of it for me.

Suuure you did.

Scumback Speakers":1dbqkljl said:
As for whatever the rest of your drivel is about that's 9 years plus old, and well known news about WSVT and their shenanigans. Sure, it cost me about $70k for their screw ups, around 400 plus speakers replaced that they built so badly they had to be rebuilt or replaced with new speakers before they could be sold. That's not current news either, though.

Ah yes, I kinda remember this now. I'll do some more digging...

Scumback Speakers":1dbqkljl said:
As for the Ebay/trolling/cell phone whatever thing...eBay doesn't give out that information unless you've already done a deal, trade or auction with someone and it's gone south, or a patent/trademark infringement. Dumble used to do that. I've had unscrupulous Weber VST clients claim their Weber speakers were "Prototype Scumback Alnicos" when they knew better and lied about it in their auctions. I did have to email them about that auction to get it reworded (are you that guy?), but that was like 8 years ago. There's probably another 2-3 bozos who listed their stuff as Scumback this or that to make more money on a Weber frame, or a rebuilt Celestion frame, knowing full well it wasn't a real Scumback. I've even had Weber clients tell me it was my fault their Weber Legacy speakers didn't measure up to their Scumbacks, and thought that I should send them new ones for believing Weber VST's claims that they were the same as my current black frame models (which they're not, obviously). I had a good laugh about that...they sold their Legacies, and kept the Scumbacks, but felt I should replace their Legacies because they were lied to by Weber VST. That kept me rolling for a few hours, and the eBay seller was totally serious.

Scumback Speakers":1dbqkljl said:
You really don't have much of a clue of what you're talking about, III, and it shows. You kind of have 1/4th or half the story, but not enough of it to do anything more than be amusingly troll-like.

I've got actual quotes that says you've got a piss poor poker face, MFer.

Scumback Speakers":1dbqkljl said:
So what's the plan now? You can't slander George well enough, so now you're turning your pathetic whining towards me? At least people know I stand up for honest people I know and defend them. You are just an unknown with incomplete knowledge, vague threats, and vaguely present, room temperature IQ.

You sure do talk a lot of shit for a man with no penis and no brains.

And why exactly would I tell you my plan? That would be stupid.

I'm enjoying the advantages - you have no clue what's next, you're a moron and I have gigs of information and tons of contacts.

(addendum) What really tickles me is how you seem to think that just because you're a business owner (and Geo), you have some "magic dildo" you can wave to make any attacks or accusations against you cease and desist. Well, I'm here to tell you (and show you) that you have zero fucking power over anybody. The court of public opinion is a vast and fickle bitch.

And as the records show, you've already burned your bridges.

Scumback Speakers":1dbqkljl said:
Look when you're ready to man up and reveal who you really are, you let me know. My contact info is easy to find. Step up and call me tommorrow, why don't you? I doubt that will happen, though, because you just don't have what it takes to step up and be accountable for your action, posts. or accusations...do you?

Unfortunately for you, I do have what it takes to expose you and any other online jackass wares-shilling MFer who plays a dirty game.

Scumback Speakers":1dbqkljl said:
So let's leave it at, you're a troll, you have no backbone, you're bored in lockdown, and you have nothing better to do than pull your gear pud out and flaunt it on people who don't know you. Because that's pretty much it, isn't it?

Look, it's late, your an ingrate, and I've got another busy day ahead of me tomorrow working, packing, building speakers and doing what I do. You should turn your attention to someone who will play with you more, and doesn't ask you valid questions about identity, dates, times, situations, meetings, etc...cuz you won't provide that.

And that just makes you look small, petty and childish. Quick, run to the bathroom, your tampon is bleeding out again.

Yeah, you're obsessed. Dance for me, bitch.
 
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