Missiles supplied to Ukraine sold on ‘open market’ – Trump

[NoHassle]

US President Donald Trump has accused Ukraine of selling American-supplied missiles on the black market, questioning the whereabouts of billions of dollars in military and financial aid provided to Kiev under his predecessor, Joe Biden.

Trump has repeatedly criticized Biden for providing Ukraine with weapons and funds without preconditions and proper oversight. During Thursday’s interview, the US president compared Zelensky to P.T. Barnum, a 19th-century American showman and traveling circus-owner, known for publicity stunts and sensational attractions.

“Zelensky is not a good guy for us to deal with. Biden gave him billions and billions of dollars,”

Trump also questioned the Ukrainian leader’s willingness to reach a diplomatic resolution to the conflict with Moscow.

“He says he wants to settle but he [doesn’t],” he said, adding: “No, I’m not a big fan of Zelensky. They’ve destroyed that country.”

 

[Shevek]

More proof Trump is owned by Putin. Putin definitely has tapes of Trump doing horrific things.

 

[Robostyle]

Putin definitely has tapes of Trump doing horrific things.

How did putin obtain these non existent tapes that you speak of?

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Bought them from Epstein.

 

[Robostyle]

Bought them from Epstein.

Any proof to support this claim?

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

And proof it never happened?

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Tell me why then, if Putin doesn't have a 'hold' on Trump, has Trump come out helping Putin now?

Only one reason. Kompromat.

 

[VonBonfire]

More proof Trump is owned by Putin. Putin definitely has tapes of Trump doing horrific things.
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Zelensky is a hero now?

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Zelensky is a hero now?

He's held off the huge former Soviet Union army with his tiny little country's army for what, 4 years now. Putin thought this was gonna take a couple weeks.

Just like Trump thought Iran was gonna be a couple weeks.

 

[VonBonfire]

He's held off the huge former Soviet Union army with his tiny little country's army for what, 4 years now. Putin thought this was gonna take a couple weeks.

He had monks and priests jailed and beaten and evicted them from the kiev caves after accusing them of colluding with Russia, which is a laughable accusation. He's a villain, not a hero.

 

[Robostyle]

And proof it never happened?

The onus is on you as the accuser.

 

[NoHassle]

Tell me why then, if Putin doesn't have a 'hold' on Trump, has Trump come out helping Putin now?

Only one reason. Kompromat.

Whilst I agree with you on many things this is 100% ridiculous.

Putin doesn't need to own Trump and if he did he would have already had Trump short changing Ukraine's help by us.

Zelensky is a thief, murderer and a con man who has challenged Trump publicly in the last week and publicly defied Trump. It's THIS that Trump is now reacting to.

Putin doesn't need anyone...he is sitting on 70 trillion of natural resources, he has steadily defeated NATO and all others who are fighting Russia.

Again, there is NO benefit of Putin having anything over Trump so he does Putin's will. Putin is doing perfectly fine with nobody in his pocket.

Fact.

 

[NoHassle]

He's held off the huge former Soviet Union army with his tiny little country's army for what, 4 years now. Putin thought this was gonna take a couple weeks.

Just like Trump thought Iran was gonna be a couple weeks.

Putin has NOT used Russia's full regular army in this and this is why it's still called a Special Military Operation.

You're a smart guy so you should know...if Putin put all his birds armed in the air...in a single day Ukraine/Kiev would be a wasteland within 3 hrs.

If you're doubtful this is why NO country will confront Putin directly as they all know what will happen. .

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Putin has NOT used Russia's full regular army in this and this is why it's still called a Special Military Operation.

You're a smart guy so you should know...if Putin put all his birds armed in the air...in a single day Ukraine/Kiev would be a wasteland within 3 hrs.

If you're doubtful this is why NO country will confront Putin directly as they all know what will happen. .

First of all, ending a debate with the word "fact" means, well, nothing. In fact it weakens anything that was said.

Tell me why, if Putin *could* end the war in a single day, why has he let it grind on, chewing up resources and manpower for four long years? The only way he could speed things up is by using nukes and that's not an option. Ditto Trump and Iran. Nukes are not an option.

And why is Trump helping Russia? Because Zelensky said something mean? Lol. If that actually is the reason (it's not) doesn't that make Trump the biggest little baby ever? Hmm. Jeez, maybe, because he's the thinnest skinned pussy boy I've ever seen.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

The onus is on you as the accuser.

I know. I just used one of your broken debate tools ironically. See my real answer in the next post. Which you must have missed/skipped/ignored.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

He had monks and priests jailed and beaten and evicted them from the kiev caves after accusing them of colluding with Russia, which is a laughable accusation. He's a villain, not a hero.

He's no saint. But even if all the accusations against him are true, it's no justification for invading and killing citizenry. And ditto Trump in Iran.

We KNOW those supposed nukes weren't real. It's the 'yellowcake' bullshit all over again. As Bush said so eloquently, "Fool me once, shame on you, won't get fooled again".

 

[VonBonfire]

He's no saint. But even if all the accusations against him are true, it's no justification for invading and killing citizenry. And ditto Trump in Iran.

Russia is a sovereign entity, entitled to make war with who they please. So is the US though I'd agree Iran was an absolutely foolish move. Historically Ukraine is part of Russia, not a separate entity, and from my understanding many of the people there wish to be a part of Russia again.

We KNOW those supposed nukes weren't real. It's the 'yellowcake' bullshit all over again. As Bush said so eloquently, "Fool me once, shame on you, won't get fooled again".

Agreed. Iraq and Afghanistan were foolhardy conflicts to engage in and as you said, WMD's were all a lie. I don't believe in n00ks anyways so there is that...

 

[Shevek]

He had monks and priests jailed and beaten and evicted them from the kiev caves after accusing them of colluding with Russia, which is a laughable accusation. He's a villain, not a hero.

Russian shelling and drone attacks have killed and wounded Ukrainian monks and destroyed sacred sites—including the Skete of All Saints at the Sviatohirsk Lavra and parts of the Kyiv Pechersk Lavra.

 

[Shevek]

Russia is a sovereign entity, entitled to make war with who they please.

By what international law? The opposite is true. No state is "entitled" to make war unless they have been attacked.

 

[Robostyle]

I know. I just used one of your broken debate tools ironically. See my real answer in the next post. Which you must have missed/skipped/ignored.

There are things in this world that neither of us can comprehend.
The difference is that you think you have all the answers.