modding effect pedal - diode question

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i have this old clunky Boss MT-2 metalzone pedal just sitting around. i have a mod write up for it that changes the D4 diode out for another diode value BUT the D3 diode is changed to led. there aren't any descriptions as to what kind of led or if it matters, it just says led. what exactly do they mean? maybe i'm just over thinking it :lol: :LOL:
any insight would be greatly appreciated! thanks!
 
Give a red LED a shot. Those are pretty common.

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cool! thanks for the advice!

i'm also going to be modding a bass overdrive pedal that has two red leds inside and i'll be replacing both of those so maybe i'll just try one and see what happens.
 
Go to radio shack, for like $3 you can get an assortment of LEDs - different colors and sizes. Go crazy! :)

Pete
 
turmoil":30f3rl30 said:
cool! thanks for the advice!

i'm also going to be modding a bass overdrive pedal that has two red leds inside and i'll be replacing both of those so maybe i'll just try one and see what happens.


You can use any led known to man as long as you pay attention to the polarity. They all have slightly different forward voltages and will all sound subtlety different.

LED have a higher forward voltage so they take a louder signal to start them clipping and are less compressed than other diodes.

Try germanium and silicon also. the forward voltage is what matters. for the bass effect if you want to try other than red leds, make sure the forward voltage is similar by adding diodes until you get a similar forward voltage.

for example, two 1N4148 silicon diodes in series are equal to one red 3mm LED, see chart below.

as you can see now the possibilities are endless. add some switches and your pedal can have tons of options.


A diode is an electronic component that allows electricity to flow in one direction, much like a valve does letting water go one way but not the other. Diodes can be seen in nearly all effect pedal schematics and are noted as this symbol (left). They are integral in creating that overdrive or distortion sounds in your favorite dirt pedals, and come in different packages, materials and sizes. Each diode has a positive side (anode) and negative side (cathode). This polarity is what resembles a valve, and dictates the flow of electricity.

But how does a diode contribute to that overdrive sound? If we look at an audio signal (represented as a sine wave) we can distort the signal by “clipping” the tops and bottoms of the wave. This clipping produces harmonics that we hear as overdrive.

If a signal is clipped evenly on both top and bottom of the wave, this is referred to as symmetrical clipping and is used in pedals such as the Ibanez Tubescreamer. If a signal is clipped more heavily at one peak than the other, this is called asymmetrical clipping as heard in the BOSS SD-1 Overdrive. The more heavily a peak is clipped, the more a sine wave moves closer to a square wave, and closer to distortion and fuzz.

The location of clipping diodes has an effect on the sound as well. Soft clipping involves having two diodes connected on the feedback-path of an opamp or a transistor (Tubescreamer). Hard clipping is when two diodes shunt to ground, creating distortion as in the ProCo RAT. The material of the diode also affects the clipping. Silicon diodes have been described as being “sharper” and “tighter” whereas germanium diodes are described as being more”compressed” or “spongey”. You can also use LEDs (light emitting diodes), Zeners, Schottkys, MOSFETs etc… the experimental possibilities are endless.
 
Try this Flexi Clip.

you build it then install it in the place of the diodes in the circuit.

It gives you many diode choices for each diode.

It a good device to have lying around that you can temporarily install in the current pedal you are modding to decide which combination you like the best.

or just build it in permanently and have MANY choices.

Most circuits use either SI 1N914 (same as 1N418), GE 1N34A (or 1N60) or combination of those two so it should be good starting point for experimenting. Germanium diodes will clip the signal softer than Silicon and LEDs have harder fuzzier clipping. Below is board layout for this circuit. Diodes in rows a-e clip one side of the waveform and the rest of diodes clip other side. Switch poles 1-5 control one side of waveform and poles 6-10 control the other. Only two poles should be ON at the moment: one in each section. Switching pole ON will connect respective diode to circuit. As you can see only one diode can be assigned for each side of the waveform, but you have plenty of options with this setup.
Bill of Materials

* 2x 1N914 (or 1N4148) SI diodes
* 2x 1N34A (or 1N60 or similar) GE diodes
* 2x 1N400x rectifier diodes
* 2x LED 3mm red
* 2x 1N34A (or 1N60 or similar) GE or Schottky 1N5819 diodes
* 2x IRF520 FETs or 2N7000 or BS170
* DIP switch with 10 poles
* Perfboard 10×10 holes
* 2x Transistor sockets, not required but recommended for testing different FETs

* bolded parts are the ones used in prototype.

Installation

Installation to existing OD/Dist circuit is very simple:

1. Remove existing clipping diodes.
2. If there is second clipping diode per waveform side in original circuit place jumper instead of it.
3. Connect solder pads for cathodes (or anode, doesn’t make difference) to input and output of Flexi Clip.

Installation diagram

When installation is complete plug guitar in and try every combination to find the one you like the most. Clipping setup is not a thing one would need to change every day so there’s no need for external controls; mini DIP switch is small enough to fit in existing effect enclosure.
 
wow! that information is absolutely perfect!!! thanks a ton!!
now i have some reading to do :lol: :LOL:
 
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