My new 3x12 cab

[MrSticky]

Thanks for posting- been curious about these.

 

[sg guy]

-I guess I stutter!! haa!!

-there's a sh*t ton of screws on the back panel, I'm very curious what the inside of that cab looks like-

 

[thunda]

In that thread the 3rd power rep says these 3x12 cabs have an impedance of 5.3 ohms, and that 3rd power amps run a custom MM transformer to operate safely at 8 ohms (mismatch) with this cab. However, for safety you should probably set your amp to 4 ohms to minimize the mismatch.

no cab is going to measure exactly 4, 8 or 16 ohms. if the impedance of the speaker or speakers is more than 8 but not more than 16 ohms, then you run the amp at 16 ohms. if more than 4 but not more than 8 ohms, then you run it at 8 ohms. if more than 2 but 4 or less, then it's run at 4 ohms.

 

[Ventura]

Awesome intel here guys!! That cab looks SO candy!!!!

I'm sticking with my Fryette D412 for now, soon to be loaded with 2xGreenback (top), 2xV30 (bottom). I love Fryette Deliverance cabs - unsure why they don't get much press - they blitz the FatBottoms IMHO, YMMV. But considering that - what - Bogner, Diezel(USA) and Friedman are all coming out of the same shop now (B.A.D.), what's the point in buying a Friedman cab when I've already got essentially the same cabs already in house? The Fryettes' got a different design and definitely a different sound and feel. I've got one loaded with the stock P50E speakers which when broken in sound pretty decent (amp specific), and tried selling my spare D412 (new). No bites so I'm re-coning it with new drivers and we'll see how she plays with the JJ.

The Slax is going through my UberKab and it's going to stay going through my UberKab. Thing sounds monstrous. The G12T75s add nice bite. Christ, couldn't be happier.

Mix and match cabs used to drive me nuts back in the day... Now?? I kinda go by ear more than anything. Not to say a Friedman Vintage 412 isn't a nice option to have, but we'll see how it compares to the Fryette once the new speakers get put into it. My guess?? I think it's going to win.

Peace

 

[garey77]

In that thread the 3rd power rep says these 3x12 cabs have an impedance of 5.3 ohms, and that 3rd power amps run a custom MM transformer to operate safely at 8 ohms (mismatch) with this cab. However, for safety you should probably set your amp to 4 ohms to minimize the mismatch.

no cab is going to measure exactly 4, 8 or 16 ohms. if the impedance of the speaker or speakers is more than 8 but not more than 16 ohms, then you run the amp at 16 ohms. if more than 4 but not more than 8 ohms, then you run it at 8 ohms. if more than 2 but 4 or less, then it's run at 4 ohms.

This is most likely just series-parallel wiring...as stated above somewhere, probably (2) 8 ohm in series, and (1) 16 ohm in parallel with that gets it to 8 ohms. Pretty common.

 

[Starman22]

Dan's guitars ...and Dan....he has such insane cool gear in there, and what a super super guy.

Cool cab. Y

Now you really need to try a Fryette Powerstation 2. You can open up that Slax at tube cooking volumes and just noodle away in your house with nobody hearing you.

 

[errrrrl]

I thought about getting one but I swear the slax and pretty much all the Friedman amps I've played through sound pretty good at high and low volumes. I'm actually gassing for one of those Ampete amp/speaker switchers.

 

[Hiatus O]

Pretty unique and cool

 

[SpiderWars]

3 each 16ohm speakers in parallel is 5.3 ohms. I was thinking it would be very unusual for them to do any series-parallel or parallel-series wiring because the signal would not be evenly split between speakers. So all in parallel makes sense. You could run probably run most amps at 8ohms or 4ohms without issue but it would likely sound different. 8ohms would likely sound punchier and 4ohms relatively less so.

EDIT: Just to be clear, 3x 16ohm speakers in parallel yields an impedance of 5.3 ohms. Not resistance (which is what your meter measures). Resistance will measure a little higher.

 

[errrrrl]

-I guess I stutter!! haa!!

-there's a sh*t ton of screws on the back panel, I'm very curious what the inside of that cab looks like-

So I finally cracked this sucker open out of curiosity... sorry @sg guy I know you wanted to see inside over a year ago lol... here it is. Just like @spiderwars said, its 3 x 16 ohms V30s wired in parallel @ 5.3 ohms.

 

[sg guy]

-thanx for taking the time to post some pics errrrrrl, I appreciate it, im a cab freak!!-
-so,.. if I'm seeing it right, the only openings between the
-inner triangle- & the -outer square housing- are where the insulation is folded in?
-are they both -(inner triangle & outer square housing)- made from the same type of material?
-the small volume & insulation should make this a very tight & focused cabinet, if the inner triangle is made out of a different &/or light guage ply it would resonate..

-how do you like it ?

 

[Deleted member 21375]

Landry amps offers a 3x12 cab that sounds killer. Solves the directional issue that 4x12’s have as well. I’m about to order one.

 

[JerEvil]

-I guess I stutter!! haa!!

-there's a sh*t ton of screws on the back panel, I'm very curious what the inside of that cab looks like-

So I finally cracked this sucker open out of curiosity... sorry @sg guy I know you wanted to see inside over a year ago lol... here it is. Just like @spiderwars said, its 3 x 16 ohms V30s wired in parallel @ 5.3 ohms.

Always loved the idea of these cabs.

Are you running 8 or 4 ohm?

 

[errrrrl]

-thanx for taking the time to post some pics errrrrrl, I appreciate it, im a cab freak!!-
-so,.. if I'm seeing it right, the only openings between the
-inner triangle- & the -outer square housing- are where the insulation is folded in?
-are they both -(inner triangle & outer square housing)- made from the same type of material?
-the small volume & insulation should make this a very tight & focused cabinet, if the inner triangle is made out of a different &/or light guage ply it would resonate..

-how do you like it ?

Sup man, I don't think there are openings between the triangle and square housing at all. What I got out of it was the inner triangle is it's own sealed up cab when closed. The square housing is there literally cause people thought the original triangle design was waaay too out there and not practical since you had no place to put your head.

Some pics of the original before the model I have came out

Also the inner triangle is made out of a different wood it felt like to me.. I may write to 3rd power and see if they have some specs they could share. As for the cab itself it's punchy as fuck and I really like it. When I bought it it was toss up between the Friedman 4x12 and it but walked out with it because of the size and the flexibility of pulling the triangle port for an open back sound (not that I ever use it lol).

I've also looked at their 2x12 cabs lately and from the back it's similar to mine except you can tell from the screws each speaker has it's own triangle cab inside (I think). They no longer make 3x12's from what I can tell from googling around. It just never caught on.

Here is the back of their newer 2x12s

Landry amps offers a 3x12 cab that sounds killer. Solves the directional issue that 4x12’s have as well. I’m about to order one.

Thats cool, gonna check that out.

Always loved the idea of these cabs.

Are you running 8 or 4 ohm?

Running 8 ohm, so far so good!