NAD: Bogner Helios Eclipse

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I already have a Helios Eclipse and an Ecstasy but I bought the Uber Ultra which I'm waiting in a few days...

what didn't you like about the Uber Ultra?
 
MrWoodchuck said:
I ended up trading in my Bogner Uber Ultra for this new Bogner Helios Eclipse. This amp is killer.

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Fine collection of amps you have. What stands out about the Helios in your opinion? What is the signal chain?
 
JulesDB said:
I already have a Helios Eclipse and an Ecstasy but I bought the Uber Ultra which I'm waiting in a few days...

what didn't you like about the Uber Ultra?
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I found the Uber Ultra a bit too filtered and closed sounding for my tastes, and I wasn't gravitating to it compared to my other amps. With the density full counter clockwise it would open up more. Overall, I could achieve good tones out of it, but it was missing something compared to what I am liking out of the Ecstasy and Helios Eclipse. I do want to try an older Uberschall at some point.
 
headlessdeadguy said:
Fine collection of amps you have. What stands out about the Helios in your opinion? What is the signal chain?
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I was just straight into the amp for this video, no pedals. I am digging how raw and open the Helios is, and it's been super easy to dial in out of the box.
 
MrWoodchuck said:
I found the Uber Ultra a bit too filtered and closed sounding for my tastes, and I wasn't gravitating to it compared to my other amps. With the density full counter clockwise it would open up more. Overall, I could achieve good tones out of it, but it was missing something compared to what I am liking out of the Ecstasy and Helios Eclipse. I do want to try an older Uberschall at some point.
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I hope that the new Uber is a completely renewed amplifier compared to the old one. I sold my Uber Rev G because I found it muffled as if it had a blanket in front of the speaker and it seemed more compressed compared to other heads
 
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JulesDB said:
I hope that the new Uber is a completely renewed amplifier compared to the old one. I sold my Uber Rev G because I found it muffled as if it had a blanket in front of the speaker and it seemed more compressed compared to other heads
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Made a video going through it here:

 
MrWoodchuck said:
I found the Uber Ultra a bit too filtered and closed sounding for my tastes, and I wasn't gravitating to it compared to my other amps. With the density full counter clockwise it would open up more. Overall, I could achieve good tones out of it, but it was missing something compared to what I am liking out of the Ecstasy and Helios Eclipse. I do want to try an older Uberschall at some point.
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That's the same reason I didn't keep mine. Too filtered/clinical/cardboard-y sounding. I think what it's missing is a richness or warmth to the tone vs other amps. A lot very recent amps have that cardboard-y sound I don't like: Omega's, KSR's, Driftwood's
 
braintheory said:
That's the same reason I didn't keep mine. Too filtered/clinical/cardboard-y sounding. I think what it's missing is a richness or warmth to the tone vs other amps. A lot very recent amps have that cardboard-y sound I don't like: Omega's, KSR's, Driftwood's
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It's almost too refined. The amp is close to mix ready sounding out of the gate, when I want a little more controlled chaos.
 
MrWoodchuck said:
It's almost too refined. The amp is close to mix ready sounding out of the gate, when I want a little more controlled chaos.
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I can see why it gets described that way, but I interpret a refined sound as one with more complexity/nuance. The ultra to me more so was I felt a more bland sound stripped of many of the qualities that make a tone to me more interesting and rich. I still thought it was a good amp overall. Definitely big, powerful and punchy sounding with the Uber flavor, but sorta like a “from concentrate” version of the flavor imho
 
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