NAD - Diezel content

[peterc52]

Just bought this stack

Even though I already have a VH4 its from '06 and this is from '15. Wanted to hear the differences.

The cab is a front loaded and that is just plain awesome as well!

 

[MetalHeadMike]

Congrats!

Let us know if you feel there's any discernible difference between them.

Weren't they gonna release a VH2 or something?

 

[Mklane]

Those are my favorite cabs!

 

[The Hoff]

Any difference?

 

[311boogieman]

HNVH4D

 

[riffermadness]

I was hoping I wouldn't be getting the "GAS SYNDROME" here on rig-talk,but now I have been and am now really gassing for that same Diezel head! I can only wait for my time to own one..thats a nice setup you have there!

 

[RJF]

That is the best cab on the market in my opinion.

 

[rickenbacker198]

I was hoping I wouldn't be getting the "GAS SYNDROME" here on rig-talk,but now I have been and am now really gassing for that same Diezel head! I can only wait for my time to own one..thats a nice setup you have there!

Good luck with that

 

[riffermadness]

I was hoping I wouldn't be getting the "GAS SYNDROME" here on rig-talk,but now I have been and am now really gassing for that same Diezel head! I can only wait for my time to own one..thats a nice setup you have there!

Good luck with that

No doubt, I did it to myself! I don't want to sell anymore gear for another amp purchase, but we all know how that works out!

 

[braintheory]

thats a holy grail lifetime score there

the new ones are close to the older ones...more treble and a touch more gain.

By older ones do you mean the ones in the late 90's? I thought the older ones were supposed to be a little darker sounding?

 

[braintheory]

thats a holy grail lifetime score there

the new ones are close to the older ones...more treble and a touch more gain.

By older ones do you mean the ones in the late 90's? I thought the older ones were supposed to be a little darker sounding?

meaning close as in NOT FAR..hehe.

They can be made to sound exactly alike with some tube rolling and knob turning. the post 2007 revisions are a little brighter and have a tad more gain. but you wouldn't run the gain all the way up anyway...

Yeah I remember liking the gain around 1-1:30, sometimes less depending on what I was playing. I wonder how the blue face version would compare. Not sure why they are so hyped compared to the standard silver face versions, but some of the clips I've heard of the blue face sounded pretty awesome

 

[peterc52]

I haven't tried them against each other yet, but had the new head to rehearsal yesterday. And fuck it's good!!

Btw I will sell one of the VH4, if you can get a company to come get it from me and ship it to you, I will sell it for $2000

 

[peterc52]

thats a holy grail lifetime score there

the new ones are close to the older ones...more treble and a touch more gain.

By older ones do you mean the ones in the late 90's? I thought the older ones were supposed to be a little darker sounding?

meaning close as in NOT FAR..hehe.

They can be made to sound exactly alike with some tube rolling and knob turning. the post 2007 revisions are a little brighter and have a tad more gain. but you wouldn't run the gain all the way up anyway...

Yeah I remember liking the gain around 1-1:30, sometimes less depending on what I was playing. I wonder how the blue face version would compare. Not sure why they are so hyped compared to the standard silver face versions, but some of the clips I've heard of the blue face sounded pretty awesome

The blue face are exactly the same as the others

 

[jonl]

thats a holy grail lifetime score there

the new ones are close to the older ones...more treble and a touch more gain.

By older ones do you mean the ones in the late 90's? I thought the older ones were supposed to be a little darker sounding?

meaning close as in NOT FAR..hehe.

They can be made to sound exactly alike with some tube rolling and knob turning. the post 2007 revisions are a little brighter and have a tad more gain. but you wouldn't run the gain all the way up anyway...

Yeah I remember liking the gain around 1-1:30, sometimes less depending on what I was playing. I wonder how the blue face version would compare. Not sure why they are so hyped compared to the standard silver face versions, but some of the clips I've heard of the blue face sounded pretty awesome

The blue face are exactly the same as the others

Congrats on the new vh4 model!!!

The blueface is not exactly the same as the others, this is the most incorrect thing I've ever heard lol

 

[RJF]

There is very little tonal difference between a blue, silver, and earlish white face VH4. They are all pretty close.

 

[jonl]

There is very little tonal difference between a blue, silver, and earlish white face VH4. They are all pretty close.

Have you played both?

 

[peterc52]

There are some tonal differences between all the revisions. The first ones were darker etc... But they are all pretty much the same.

 

[braintheory]

There is very little tonal difference between a blue, silver, and earlish white face VH4. They are all pretty close.

Have you played both?

I didn't realize there's a distinction between white and silver face as well. How would you describe the differences since it looks like you've had both?

 

[cardinal]

There is very little tonal difference between a blue, silver, and earlish white face VH4. They are all pretty close.

I've had an original Blueface and an '07. I played one of the "reissue" bluefaces (2011? Don't remember) and I think a few more of the newer ones.

There is definitely a difference. I mean, they all sound like a Diezel, so don't get me wrong. One is not going to sound like a Marshall and another a Fender. But I don't really think they can be dialed in the same. The newer ones I've played (post 2007) were tighter and had a lot more preamp gain. I hate to criticize them because they sound great, but the newer ones sound a bit "narrow," like the low end extension abruptly stops, like there's a pretty hard high-pass on the amp somehow. Something kinda similar with the top end.

The Blueface felt a bit more natural, the way the top end and low end extended and breathed. Particularly the top end, it just sounded so much angrier than the newer ones. Needed to run the gain knob a touch higher, but there was NO WAY you were running out of gain. It still had lots and lots.

I've heard how the Blueface is supposed to be darker than the newer ones, and I think... maybe. I think there's less treble but more presence, maybe. But again, you can just turn up the treble knob and turn down the presence. What you can't do with the newer ones is uncork the low end and high end so that they extend a bit more naturally. And I couldn't turn the knobs to make the newer ones sound a vicious or mean as the Blueface. I don't know enough about what frequency was doing it, but really that amp sounded angry in a very cool way.

 

[braintheory]

There is very little tonal difference between a blue, silver, and earlish white face VH4. They are all pretty close.

I've had an original Blueface and an '07. I played one of the "reissue" bluefaces (2011? Don't remember) and I think a few more of the newer ones.

There is definitely a difference. I mean, they all sound like a Diezel, so don't get me wrong. One is not going to sound like a Marshall and another a Fender. But I don't really think they can be dialed in the same. The newer ones I've played (post 2007) were tighter and had a lot more preamp gain. I hate to criticize them because they sound great, but the newer ones sound a bit "narrow," like the low end extension abruptly stops, like there's a pretty hard high-pass on the amp somehow. Something kinda similar with the top end.

The Blueface felt a bit more natural, the way the top end and low end extended and breathed. Particularly the top end, it just sounded so much angrier than the newer ones. Needed to run the gain knob a touch higher, but there was NO WAY you were running out of gain. It still had lots and lots.

I've heard how the Blueface is supposed to be darker than the newer ones, and I think... maybe. I think there's less treble but more presence, maybe. But again, you can just turn up the treble knob and turn down the presence. What you can't do with the newer ones is uncork the low end and high end so that they extend a bit more naturally. And I couldn't turn the knobs to make the newer ones sound a vicious or mean as the Blueface. I don't know enough about what frequency was doing it, but really that amp sounded angry in a very cool way.

Interesting. That sounds about right based on what I heard in the clips. How did the reissue blue face compare to the original?