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Well ended up scoring a black EVH50W for a deal I could not pass up tonight..

I'm pretty impressed overall with this amplifier.. Only things that bug me about the amp is the jump in volume between ch1 vs ch2 and the footswitch is HUGE. The footswitch is almost as big as the amp itself :lol: :LOL: . I have read there is a mod you can do to alleviate the ch1 vs ch2 vol problem.. Going to just use this rig for gigging. I love the fact the amp happens to fit perfectly ontop of my avatar 2x12 cab when it's set on it's side.

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Why did EVH have such a shitty tone on their latest album?? The EVH5153 amp line rocks in general... Do you think it's just attributed to the mixing/production being junk? :confused:

 
Happy NAD!!

The mod is pretty easy and there are in depth instructions on line. It's never bothered me because I'm always on channel 2. Guitar vol. knob to clean up and an OD pedal for more gain. This approach also makes the big foot switch a non issue for me.
 
Congrats.
These amps intrigue me. Seems like a perfect gigging amp. Small, loud, loop, channels, good tone, relatively cheap.
 
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Congrats dude!

Almost got one of these. Needs red chicken head knobs and remove the Avatar sticker :lol: :LOL:

I had an Avatar closed back Traditional with a G12H30 and Classic Lead 80. Sick cab.

ADKOT wasn't THAT bad tonally but I get what you are saying. I really dig the album but it is a little boxy with too much Wah. What is interesting is that tonally it seemed like they were trying to put a lot of depth into the music but it just came out kind of one dimensional. I just chalked it up to them (someone) trying to get that old school VH vibe going. Thoughts?
 
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311splawndude":2p0knkt8 said:
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Congrats dude!

Almost got one of these. Needs red chicken head knobs and remove the Avatar sticker :lol: :LOL:

I had an Avatar closed back Traditional with a G12H30 and Classic Lead 80. Sick cab.

ADKOT wasn't THAT bad tonally but I get what you are saying. I really dig the album but it is a little boxy with too much Wah. What is interesting is that tonally it seemed like they were trying to put a lot of depth into the music but it just came out kind of one dimensional. I just chalked it up to them (someone) trying to get that old school VH vibe going. Thoughts?

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In mid-January 2011, the band moved into Henson studios with Shanks, staff engineer Martin Cooke, and engineer Paul David Hager.[7] The band would work twelve hours a day, five days a week, working on the music during the afternoon and Roth coming in to sing at night.[8] The instrumental tracks were done in three weeks, with the band playing live as they had had much rehearsal. Eddie declared that he felt relieved in relinquishing some of the production work to his son, with Wolfgang stating that "dad likes to think of me as some sort of leader now". The bassist was considered akin to a co-producer, frequently talking to Shanks, being consulted by his father on the musical direction, and developing the songs.[5][6] Along with creating new bits, such as a new breakdown on "She's the Woman" - as the original ended up used on Fair Warning's (1981) "Mean Street" - and an arrangement for "Stay Frosty" outside the acoustic introduction,[5] Wolfgang had some bass improvisations "stem[ming] from boredom" as he wanted to vary after so much rehearsing, such as the capo intro to "Chinatown".[6]

By the end of March 2011, the band had returned to finish the record at 5150 with engineer Ross Hogarth.[7] Most of the work at 5150 was for guitars and bass, as Eddie "couldn’t hear them at Henson the way I’m used to" and both him and Hogarth felt the attempts at mixing were not progressing due to sound quality. Eddie attributed this to the tape machines at Henson, stating that on that studio "everything ended up sounding like it had a sock over it", a problem that did not repeat when playing the tapes at Eddie's facility.[5] The final mix took place over a period of six weeks in the summer of 2011. Each song would be mixed for an entire day, and in the next day it would be tweaked. Hogarth declared that because the process was done at a mixing console, "we couldn’t move on to the next song until a mix had been approved by everyone and could go off the desk." Hogarth started with the drums as he considered it the most important component, and then moved forward with the bass and guitar to finish a backing track, which would be complemented with multing (hiving off different sections of a given part to different tracks) and parallel compression. Then it was finished bringing in Roth’s vocals, backing vocals, and details like ad libs, screams and solos.[7]

Hogarth aimed "to bring Ed’s guitar sound into the modern era, but maintaining all the DNA of the past." He suggested to Eddie that instead of doing again the guitar to the left speaker and the effects panned to the right, the guitar sound was split naturally instead of electronically using two guitar amplifiers place far apart. The idea was to have a guitar sound "that was wide and mono, and not digital delay-driven, and it’s what you hear on the record, with only a few overdubs — the classic Van Halen sound is not to have a rhythm guitar when he solos". A more complex structure was made for Wolfgang Van Halen's bass, as the band wanted "a bass sound that covered the whole spectrum, from high to low and clean to dirty", and up to eight microphones recorded his instrument. A multi-mic set-up was also employed for Alex Van Halen's drums, with most of the final drumming coming from overhead microphones Hogarth dubbed "press conference". Roth's vocals were all recorded at Henson, without compression.[7]
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(from wikipedia) idk I feel the mix was terrible on the new album. I saw VH live 3 times on that tour and his tone was pretty good live. Sounds to me like the production was overly complicated with how it was mixed and just lack of experience. I believe they had their soundguy take part in the mixing and mixing live sound vs studio is a big difference IMO.
 
I didn't get an overly-complicated feel so much but now that you say that it does make sense. Weird for sure.

I do know that Eddie's tone live on the last two concert legs was pretty much down right fucking phenomenal.

ADKOT sounds nothing like him (them live). Dave's voice is better on record obviously but live I thought Eddie killed it.
 
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I didn't get an overly-complicated feel so much but now that you say that it does make sense. Weird for sure.

I do know that Eddie's tone live on the last two concert legs was pretty much down right fucking phenomenal.

ADKOT sounds nothing like him (them live). Dave's voice is better on record obviously but live I thought Eddie killed it.

I used to mix FOH and monitors for concerts in upstate NY and recently I've been producing my own instrumental rock album. I quickly learned how different FOH vs studio mixing is.. Concepts are the same. However, the way you implement certain things and their outcome are much different. I basically had to build a completely different strategy to how I approach mixing my recordings vs mixing live sound.

I'm not claiming to be an expert at mixing but "if it sounds good, it is good". To me ADKOT was overall a complete letdown on the mix. I feel the album really suffered because it had a lackluster mix. Honestly I was surprised that Ed let this go to the public with the mix it had. The fact it was released like this convinced me much of his VHI and VHII brown sound was just in his fingers, the simple and effective mix, and driving the plexi amplifier rigs HARD. Even if he had mods to the amp, it still comes down to the miking and mix IMO. you can get a zillion different sounds out of a guitar rig with different mic placements and different mics.
 
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