NAD! Molecular. **update** new clip

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Just picked this up last night. I have been curious about the Ceriatone Chubacabra and Yeti for a while now. Never played an Atomica either, so this should satisfy my curiosity. First off it's in new condition. It's only a month old. I tested it out last night at the guys house and it sounded killer so I handed over my cash and went home.
So after playing it for about an hour at medium to loud volumes here is what I think. It is pretty damn sweet. Sounds pretty killer going through my two 4x12s. As cool as the diode clipping is to the left, I actually prefer the amp without the diodes engaged. Plus, to the left it drops the volume a significant amount. To the right, a tremendous amount. To the left you'd have a hard time keeping up with a loud drummer even with two 4x12's. To the right....... forget about it. Without the diodes engaged it's no problem and plenty loud and sweet sounding. If your playing with yourself in your room then the volume drop won't really matter. Same if your recording without a cab and using an OX Box or Torpedo live.

I do like the bright switch to the left very much. To the right it sounds like ass with my setup. I will say that I think it sounds best with a higher gain pickup than I have(low output 8.5k PAF types). I think it sounds better with V30's too. But really, I really like the amp with the diodes off and the bright switch to the left. Plenty of gain for me and it sounds killer with either my Bion Boost or if I want more saturation, my VFE Dragon in front. If you want that nice gooey saturated sounds straight in, the diode to the left, the bright to the left and a medium output HB is a killer combo.

On to the video. Didn't mess with all the controls, but a decent amount. Drop B tuning. Same SM57 on my Sheffield 1200 speaker going into iRig Pre HD and straight into my iPhone. No eq, filters or stuff like that. Oh, it's a lot longer than I had planned. At the 6:10 mark I turn on the VFE Dragon.

Update. Deleted that first video. This one is a Sheffield 1290. Biased the amp with JJ pre’s and =C= EL34’s.






Update:
I put all new JJ 12ax7's and lowered the bias on the power tubes. Nick recommended 35 to the previous owner, but they were at 40. I lowered them to 30. Not sure what the plate voltage is, but I think it sounds a bit better than what they were at. I recorded a new clip with a guitar tuned to Eb with a Sheptone Tribute humbucker. I also recorded a Sheffield 1290 speaker. Loop is off and with the diodes engaged, bringing the master up past 1 o'clock made a huge difference in volume. Also, with the gain knob up past 2'oclock the Edge switch to the right is now usable. For a bonus I noticed that my low E string is just enough out of tune to be annoying when listening back, but not enough for me to have noticed while recording. :thumbsup:





I totally dig the diodes engaged, but I still really like the amp without the diodes engaged and the bright switch to the left. That's just kinda my tone. Cool thing is that even with gain knob all the way up it didn't get all farty.
 
oh trapped in a meeting...marked to listen later!
 
I dig it! Very growly and aggressive with some nice grit on the highs. Gonna have to try one of these out.
 
Cool man! I didn't know you ordered one. Looks cool and the vid sounds good. Bummer about that significant of a volume drop though id you really like that much saturation but are also gigging.
 
You can change diodes to fit your sound. For example, you can use 22 volt zeners for only a little bit of clipping to just get you over the edge, etc.
 
You're probably aware of this, but with the buffered loop you'll need to crank the effects-level knob on the back panel to compensate for the volume drop. I, too, was concerned about insufficient volume with the diodes on, but making this adjustment sorted it right out.
 
Rising Farce":18fc6fve said:
You're probably aware of this, but with the buffered loop you'll need to crank the effects-level knob on the back panel to compensate for the volume drop. I, too, was concerned about insufficient volume with the diodes on, but making this adjustment sorted it right out.

Yeah, at first I set the loop level so that the volume was the same with the loop on or off. That was a little past three o'clock on the loop level knob. I also tried it with the loop totally off. Still a pretty significant volume reduction with the ERA switch to the right. I also noticed that the loop is sensitive to the send and return cables getting too close to the transformers in a similar way to the loop on the PRS Archon amps.
 
psychodave":32mqbpen said:
You can change diodes to fit your sound. For example, you can use 22 volt zeners for only a little bit of clipping to just get you over the edge, etc.


You know, I was thinking something very similar. I mean I wouldn't know what exactly to switch things out to, but I can swap out and solder in new ones if given 2nd grade level instructions. :lol: :LOL: I also don't like the bright caps that are on the Right hand side.
 
That's one of the best YT clips of the amp so far, congrats Bubba!!!! I like it better than any of the Chupa or Yeti clips to date, it seems more aggressive and has that Cameron clank to it. Sounds like a killer amp for $850 bucks. I re-listened to some Atomica clips and they sound a bit brighter/aggressive on the top end compared to the Molecular but the DNA seems to be there for sure. :thumbsup:
 
harddriver":2lx73nxm said:
That's one of the best YT clips of the amp so far, congrats Bubba!!!! I like it better than any of the Chupa or Yeti clips to date, it seems more aggressive and has that Cameron clank to it. Sounds like a killer amp for $850 bucks. I re-listened to some Atomica clips and they sound a bit brighter/aggressive on the top end compared to the Molecular but the DNA seems to be there for sure. :thumbsup:


Thanks man. It’s pretty cool for sure. Talk about fucking timing though. I just got a text from the guy I sold my Hermansson PA to asking if I’m interested in buying it back? Of course i am! So less than 24 hours after getting this Molecular, it’s now on the chopping block. :doh:
 
bubbastain":2mhzo2t2 said:
harddriver":2mhzo2t2 said:
That's one of the best YT clips of the amp so far, congrats Bubba!!!! I like it better than any of the Chupa or Yeti clips to date, it seems more aggressive and has that Cameron clank to it. Sounds like a killer amp for $850 bucks. I re-listened to some Atomica clips and they sound a bit brighter/aggressive on the top end compared to the Molecular but the DNA seems to be there for sure. :thumbsup:


Thanks man. It’s pretty cool for sure. Talk about fucking timing though. I just got a text from the guy I sold my Hermansson PA to asking if I’m interested in buying it back? Of course i am! So less than 24 hours after getting this Molecular, it’s now on the chopping block. :doh:

How much?
 
Just turn the master volume up more. The diode clipping does drop the volume, but you can still get the amp to the same or close to the same volume as without the diodes. You just need to physically turn up the master volume. And it's not meant to be something you switch mid-song, so turning up the master shouldn't be an issue. Don't be afraid to run the master up past 2:00...
 
The volume drop is a thing in the Yeti and Chupa as well, but as FourT6and2 said you can cope with it by turning up the master. Congrats btw, your clip sounds rad indeed.

I like it better than any of the Chupa or Yeti clips to date

There are imho very few clips around givin the Yeti and Chupa some justice, I personally wouldnt have purchased my Yeti if my decision was based on clips and vids.
 
FourT6and2":wo74a2xa said:
Just turn the master volume up more. The diode clipping does drop the volume, but you can still get the amp to the same or close to the same volume as without the diodes. You just need to physically turn up the master volume. And it's not meant to be something you switch mid-song, so turning up the master shouldn't be an issue. Don't be afraid to run the master up past 2:00...

Thanks man. That was the issue. I just wasn't turning it up enough. Bringing the master up past 2:00 really woke it up. New clip in Eb. More details about this clip in the OP.

 
bubbastain":3e749kwo said:
harddriver":3e749kwo said:
That's one of the best YT clips of the amp so far, congrats Bubba!!!! I like it better than any of the Chupa or Yeti clips to date, it seems more aggressive and has that Cameron clank to it. Sounds like a killer amp for $850 bucks. I re-listened to some Atomica clips and they sound a bit brighter/aggressive on the top end compared to the Molecular but the DNA seems to be there for sure. :thumbsup:


Thanks man. It’s pretty cool for sure. Talk about fucking timing though. I just got a text from the guy I sold my Hermansson PA to asking if I’m interested in buying it back? Of course i am! So less than 24 hours after getting this Molecular, it’s now on the chopping block. :doh:
PM’d
 
The drop volume is normal in a Jose based amp. These amps really need a reverse audio taper master volume pot. It's and easy swap
 
scottosan":tocsawrj said:
The drop volume is normal in a Jose based amp. These amps really need a reverse audio taper master volume pot. It's and easy swap


Yeah, I was expecting a volume drop with the diodes engaged. I've been playing VTM's for years and the Compression dipswitch does the same. However, on the VTM if I'm playing with the master on say 2 and engage the Compression switch, I only have to bring the master up to about 3 1/2 to get the same volume back. On this one I need to bring it up to about 6 from 2. But it's there. Does sound pretty killer. Although I still prefer it without the diodes engaged for what I play 90% of the time.
 
Congrats on your amp. Good demo too. May not be for me but you get props nonetheless.

Enjoy :cheers:
 
311splawndude":2ratsh7q said:
Congrats on your amp. Good demo too. May not be for me but you get props nonetheless.

Enjoy :cheers:

Uploading a new drop B video now. New tubes and biasing made a noticeable improvement.
 

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