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2014 Modern Classic II

Sold my MC 50 watt for this.

A bit more thump, lead channel works better at low volume, a tad more aggressive

Only had it for an hour. :)

More noise on the lead channel - gonna play around with some tubes. Does any of yours have some noise? My 50 watt didn't have it.

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Congrats on the amp. I also had quite a bit of noise with the MC II. I couldn't figure it out. Hope you find a solution.
 
I found the Wizards like the regular JJecc83 frame grid as far as noise goes. Try all those first then from there you can try a different V1 and PI.
 
If the amp was shipped to you take a look at the nylock bolt that connects the grounds to chassis...its around the input jack area on the top of the chassis. If that comes loose, like mine did, in shipping, its noisy... simply snug it up and everything goes quiet again. If that is what it is its a quick fix, like mine. good luck
 
Wizard does Marshall better than Marshall IMO, it's just a matter of finding the model that works for a person's style, truly a bucket list amp for me! And if you decide they're not for you after trying, one of the few that hold resail value, they are the cream of the crop.
 
Dingleberries":1gz9a6ii said:
Wizard does Marshall better than Marshall IMO, it's just a matter of finding the model that works for a person's style, truly a bucket list amp for me! And if you decide they're not for you after trying, one of the few that hold resail value, they are the cream of the crop.
Agreed. And I love my Marshalls. But a Wizard....awesome. Congrats! :rock:
 
Pete.....Rick has a lot more faith in those JJ E34L's than most people do. If it is set up like it left his bench, the bias will be run up to the 80-90% range. This is most likely the source of the hiss, other than any ground issues. His amps, by design have very little filtering. Pretty much input to output. If you will first re-bias the amp and lower the bias down to around 28-30 on the existing tubes, you will likely hear no more hiss. Also, a good quality short plate NOS tube in V1 can change the amp up a lot.
 
Killer amp, congrats
Mine is pretty quiet - a little hiss but nothing crazy . Take Steve's advice, he knows his Wizards.
 
steve_k":2wdns6no said:
Pete.....Rick has a lot more faith in those JJ E34L's than most people do. If it is set up like it left his bench, the bias will be run up to the 80-90% range. This is most likely the source of the hiss, other than any ground issues. His amps, by design have very little filtering. Pretty much input to output. If you will first re-bias the amp and lower the bias down to around 28-30 on the existing tubes, you will likely hear no more hiss. Also, a good quality short plate NOS tube in V1 can change the amp up a lot.

Gonna order the tubes you suggested today and fix the bias. BUT! It's still the king of Marshall amps! No doubt about that.

That punch and clarity can only come from a Wizard. :rock: :rock:
 
steve_k":370bozts said:
His amps, by design have very little filtering. Pretty much input to output. If you will first re-bias the amp and lower the bias down to around 28-30 on the existing tubes, you will likely hear no more hiss. Also, a good quality short plate NOS tube in V1 can change the amp up a lot.

Very little filtering where? Mine has tons of filtering in the power supply if that's what you are talking about. Mine did have the El34l's in it when I got it...not a fan of those.
 
Greazygeo":18gcohj8 said:
steve_k":18gcohj8 said:
His amps, by design have very little filtering. Pretty much input to output. If you will first re-bias the amp and lower the bias down to around 28-30 on the existing tubes, you will likely hear no more hiss. Also, a good quality short plate NOS tube in V1 can change the amp up a lot.

Very little filtering where? Mine has tons of filtering in the power supply if that's what you are talking about. Mine did have the El34l's in it when I got it...not a fan of those.


+1 I was going to comment but figured why bother... a quick glance at the filter caps/values would tell you
 
lespaul6":5p19vac7 said:
Greazygeo":5p19vac7 said:
steve_k":5p19vac7 said:
His amps, by design have very little filtering. Pretty much input to output. If you will first re-bias the amp and lower the bias down to around 28-30 on the existing tubes, you will likely hear no more hiss. Also, a good quality short plate NOS tube in V1 can change the amp up a lot.

Very little filtering where? Mine has tons of filtering in the power supply if that's what you are talking about. Mine did have the El34l's in it when I got it...not a fan of those.


+1 I was going to comment but figured why bother... a quick glance at the filter caps/values would tell you

Bravo. Great input. Go look again.
 
steve_k":hluj7fei said:
Pete.....Rick has a lot more faith in those JJ E34L's than most people do. If it is set up like it left his bench, the bias will be run up to the 80-90% range. This is most likely the source of the hiss, other than any ground issues. His amps, by design have very little filtering. Pretty much input to output. If you will first re-bias the amp and lower the bias down to around 28-30 on the existing tubes, you will likely hear no more hiss. Also, a good quality short plate NOS tube in V1 can change the amp up a lot.
Interesting about the bias level sounding better in that range. SLOs work better with the bias in the same range. Both amps are 2 of the best power thumping and articulated amps .....sounding killer of course. I wonder about the similarities in the power section? :rock:
 
steve_k":1dxp4jpv said:
lespaul6":1dxp4jpv said:
Greazygeo":1dxp4jpv said:
steve_k":1dxp4jpv said:
His amps, by design have very little filtering. Pretty much input to output. If you will first re-bias the amp and lower the bias down to around 28-30 on the existing tubes, you will likely hear no more hiss. Also, a good quality short plate NOS tube in V1 can change the amp up a lot.

Very little filtering where? Mine has tons of filtering in the power supply if that's what you are talking about. Mine did have the El34l's in it when I got it...not a fan of those.


+1 I was going to comment but figured why bother... a quick glance at the filter caps/values would tell you

Bravo. Great input. Go look again.
i think you need to....it is pretty low on oil / coffee maker filters though.

And neither of mine were biased all that hot either.

Lots of filtering and giant transformers = Wizard. :confused:
 
Can you clarify as to what numbers you are seeing in the PI, screens and mains to determine low filtering? curious
 
Racerxrated":2bog6t2u said:
Dingleberries":2bog6t2u said:
Wizard does Marshall better than Marshall IMO, it's just a matter of finding the model that works for a person's style, truly a bucket list amp for me! And if you decide they're not for you after trying, one of the few that hold resail value, they are the cream of the crop.
Agreed. And I love my Marshalls. But a Wizard....awesome. Congrats! :rock:

Depends on the Marshall and the adjust.

The picture on my avatar, youcan find 2 JMP. One of them is amazing. The other one I could sell it, and it is the same amp.
 
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