New Axe Fx II FW 10.0 Preview!

[DeezDemos]

Sounds good to me!

First clip is the real deal (6505+) second is the Axe.

 

[Anonymous]

fuckin ax fx company getting worse than adobe flash with all the updates and changes.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

fuckin ax fx company getting worse than adobe flash with all the updates and changes.

It's funny there really are two divided sides on this. Most hate the constant evolving.

Being part of the development process is king for me. I LOVE FW updates , the device keeps getting better and better constantly reaffirming my purchase.

The features we beg for eventually get added or modified by fractal. Win/win for me.

 

[Ventura]

Ya, I mentioned this 10.0 preview yesterday in one of my posts. I think it's getting better and better, they're certainly no slouches when it comes to constantly bettering the product. I think it's interesting too - the divisiveness the product creates and the FW upgrades are indeed pretty polarizing. I think it's a product that is half musical, half computer geekdom - and therein lies the divisiveness.

Whatever, the volume-to-break-up sounds excellent for a modeler, and no one would know shit live or on record if pressed to tell.

 

[Gadzz]

Love the updates!!

 

[Audioholic]

When I was a fractal owner I really liked added features of course. But when each update changed the eq and sound, that got frustrating. But product improvement is great as long as it doesn't cause more problems. Still, it does seen like 9 just came out no? Kemper has cliff on overtime

 

[ejecta]

If that truly is a real amp vs model then that's a pretty darn close.

 

[ttosh]

I think the fact that Cliff updates so often is amazing. It is a win/win for anybody that owns an Axe FX. For those that do not want the hassle, just do not update, that simple. For those that understand some tweaking is probably necessary to get the latest update and do not mind, then it is great.

I do not own an Axe FX any longer, but the fact Cliff provides updates like this is one of the greatest features of the Axe FX. How many Wizard owners got all the updates Rick made to the Modern Classic II? They would have loved to of course even if they had to adjust the controls a bit. So this upgrade process is great for the users in a big way!!!

Just like computers the players gigging constantly will probably stay on their current firmware patch like a business will on an operating system as to not cause issues with the important things. Those who do not gig and just use for a hobby can tweak and play to their hearts content without much concern.

I say Kudos to Cliff and Fractal Audio for keeping their customers and product in mind for moving forward.

As far as the camps being divided, go make some music and quit worrying about the other side or trying to justify your purchase. No matter what gear you use, it is about playing music.... Isn't it?

 

[mindseye]

As far as the camps being divided, go make some music and quit worrying about the other side or trying to justify your purchase. No matter what gear you use, it is about playing music.... Isn't it?

This this this!!!!
Wish more users of all the different boxes had this outlook!

This is a great time to be a guitar player with all the awesome tools at our finger tips.
It's really a good thing that there is more than one company pushing to make better products by constantly updating them, it keep everyone striving to out do the other company and when that happens we all win!!

Remember when L6 was the only real player in the modeling game, everything moved pretty slow and at the pace they wanted witch was slow and most the time the user had to pay for the upgrades they slowly offered.

Fractal came along and really turned stuff upside down and got things moving in a really good direction fast now Kemper has came along and they have really gotten things really moving and in my opinion we all that enjoy these boxes win with all the constant pushing to make their product better.

 

[DeezDemos]

As far as the camps being divided, go make some music and quit worrying about the other side or trying to justify your purchase. No matter what gear you use, it is about playing music.... Isn't it?

Agree! This whole my dicks bigger than yours crap between gear is irrelevant really. Of course that's probably not the best analogy, because unlike the vs. threads, size matters!

 

[ejecta]

As far as the camps being divided, go make some music and quit worrying about the other side or trying to justify your purchase. No matter what gear you use, it is about playing music.... Isn't it?

Agree! This whole my dicks bigger than yours crap between gear is irrelevant really. Of course that's probably not the best analogy, because unlike the vs. threads, size matters!

Not sure about size.... but my profiled dick is more realer than your modeled dick.

 

[Shark Diver]

Ya, I mentioned this 10.0 preview yesterday in one of my posts. I think it's getting better and better,

But 2 years ago it was already better than a real tube amp. How can it get better and better?

 

[ejecta]

Ya, I mentioned this 10.0 preview yesterday in one of my posts. I think it's getting better and better,

But 2 years ago it was already better than a real tube amp. How can it get better and better?

Evidently Cliff has broken through to another reality where you can achieve better than a perfect 100% copy of analog tube amps.

In all seriousness it was just marketing speak from the top that was parroted by a loud small minority of minions. It never has been in playing reality an exact copy of a tube amp. It's very close, especially playing them into a power section into a guitar cab. Just for the record I don't think the Kemper is either and I'm a big fan of mine.

IMHO using a modeler/profiler really has it's place and in some ways does exceed the capabilities of a tube amp but it isn't exactly like playing a tube amp especially playing FRFR. It's not bad... it's just different. To some guys that different is something they don't like.... to some the positives out weigh the difference. I agree the whole dick swinging match is stupid and honestly is usually started or propagated by minority of tube snobs, Axe users, and Kemper users.

 

[Shark Diver]

Ya, I mentioned this 10.0 preview yesterday in one of my posts. I think it's getting better and better,

But 2 years ago it was already better than a real tube amp. How can it get better and better?

Evidently Cliff has broken through to another reality where you can achieve better than a perfect 100% copy of analog tube amps.

In all seriousness it was just marketing speak from the top that was parroted by a loud small minority of minions. It's never has been in playing reality an exact copy of a tube amp. It's very close, especially playing them into a power section into a guitar cab. Just for the record I don't think the Kemper is either and I'm a big fan of mine.

IMHO using a modeler/profiler really has it's place and in some ways does exceed the capabilities of a tube amp but it isn't exactly like playing a tube amp especially playing FRFR. It's not bad... it's just different. To some guys that different is something they don't like.... to some the positives out weigh the difference. I agree the whole dick swinging match is stupid and honestly is usually started or propagated by minority of tube snobs, Axe users, and Kemper users.

Yeah, I'm just f'ng with Mo. Whatever anybody likes to use is their deal. I'm just waiting for somebody to profile those Victoria super models - then I'm all in,

 

[The Hoff]

I'm trying to decide between the two right now. I'd probably go Kemper if they had a rackmount version. The fact that Axe has FW updates is a positive in my opinion. They don't just make the existing features better, they usually add new ones too. And if you don't want to update, you don't have to.

 

[Shark Diver]

they usually add new ones too. And if you don't want to update, you don't have to.

And that actually was an issue for me. If you dial it in and want the new stuff you have to update. Then you have to redial everything else in because it usually effects everything. That can wear after a while...

 

[SkyhighRocks]

they usually add new ones too. And if you don't want to update, you don't have to.

And that actually was an issue for me. If you dial it in and want the new stuff you have to update. Then you have to redial everything else in because it usually effects everything. That can wear after a while...

That was an issue for me as well. Too much turning knobs and tweaking. I mean it was great on one hand to have all those features and cool stuff to mess with but in the end, it was just a little overkill for me.

 

[mindseye]

they usually add new ones too. And if you don't want to update, you don't have to.

And that actually was an issue for me. If you dial it in and want the new stuff you have to update. Then you have to redial everything else in because it usually effects everything. That can wear after a while...

I could be wrong on this because I have not had any problems with any of my patches the last few updates, since FW 8 I believe there is a setting in the global menu that lets you choose from the last few FW's for the amp modeling. I think this feature was implemented to combat the tone changes that some people hear when updating.

I may be wrong on what that feature does but im pretty sure thats what I read it was for.

 

[Ventura]

Yeah, I'm just f'ng with Mo. Whatever anybody likes to use is their deal. I'm just waiting for somebody to profile those Victoria super models - then I'm all in,

I certainly don't mind the ribbing. And as for duplicating the Victoria Secret models, I betcha this forum would see a lot less action on it if this were a reality

You know, I honestly think the A2 is a fantastic piece of kit. I do. But the thing that I keep getting my back up with is the constant brown lipstick wearing gushing over all things Fractal. I mean, seriously, I've been over on that forum the last couple of days and it's seriously like medieval "Grand Inquisitor" fawning over there. Anyone mentions ONE THING about what they think could be improved or maybe worked on, and they get a virtual butt-buggering by the masses. It's seriously cult-like over there. It's fuckin' creepy.

Overall though, it's nuts how good things have gotten with this unit. The differences are indecipherable for the most part. I think the idea of lugging around a couple hundred pounds of gear around to different venues is done. Whether it's KPA or FAS or whatever new gizmo is around the corner, the milestones have been made and met. And it will continue to evolve. That said, there'll always be a place for fine glass amps. The "in the room" feel will always be sought. But for now, I'm stoked to try my incoming active CLRs and go from there.

I'm just not going to gobble cob on my knees over the product. That's just - as mentioned - fkn creepy.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

As far as the camps being divided, go make some music and quit worrying about the other side or trying to justify your purchase. No matter what gear you use, it is about playing music.... Isn't it?

On internet gear forums I would say there's a 50/50 chance that this is the end goal of the forumite.

Not that I have a problem with that of course, to each his own.