NEW CAE MIDI foot controller coming... and it looks KILLER

[Zachman]

http://www.customaudioelectronics.com/cae_news

There is a Bigger version too... which is likely going to replace the RS10

From a thread at HRI:

When Bob was walking me through the big one some of the stuff I remember that was cool was that any switch could be changed to instant access or a preset switch....then you can basically change scenes from a board of 25 preset switches to a board with 25 IA switches or any random combo of each when you turn pages. You can of course name every switch and every preset and also the leds for each switch can be changed to many colors so all the IA's can be red and all the presets can be blue etc. The big one I saw was about the size of an rs-10 with an expander but he said they are all gonna be custom, you just pick the number of rows I think. Also it has the wah tuner loop and power interface built in so you just plug power cables and audio straight from it to the wah/tuner. Its badass.

That all sounds very cool.

It would be cool if there is software that allows you to set it up. That would make it a smoking machine and one that places CAE back in the forefront...

Yep we talked about that too...he said it would have that eventually, working on thew software side.....it hooks USB to the computer.

 

[gbsmusic]

It looks great. What kind of price on it?

 

[Zachman]

It looks great. What kind of price on it?

I don't know... I'm sure it'll be in the ball park of the others fully featured models out there.

The CAE/MXR PLI is cool too, for the pedals on the floor approach:

CAE/MXR PLI NOW IN STOCK
12.16.2009


CAE/MXR PLI NOW IN STOCK!
The CAE/MXR Pedalboard Loop Interface is now in limited production at Dunlop. I got a shipment in this week and have 3 pieces left for pedalboard builds. The rest are already taken. I am only selling these as part of CAE pedalboard design services, so if you have been considering the PLI or just having me build you a simple pedalboard utilizing some loops, now is your chance. Cost of the PLI itself is $399. Complete pedalboard design/building service depends on complexity, so it is best to call or email for a quote.

The PLI consists of 5 routing loops (2 discrete and 1 "chain" of 3 in series) and 2 high quality buffers which can be bypassed depending on your patching arrangement.

For more information on the PLI, and tips on how it can benefit your pedalboard
click here

For pics on a recent system utilizing the PLI click http://www.customaudioelectronics.com/rig_show and check out Adam Ross's
new board...

 

[Ventura]

Old news... My concern is product support.

Ever try getting ahold of Sir Bradshaw??


V.

 

[CaseyCor]

Ah, so this is the controller you were telling me about on the phone. Very cool. I might end up with one in the future if the price is right.

Oh, and Voodoo Labs makes a floorboard looping system just like that CAA model above. I've used one before, really cool stuff. I'll find the link to it.

Ah ,here we go. Voodoo Labs Pedal Switcher. Combine it with a VDL Commander to set up presets. Cool little unit, IMO.

Pedal Switcher - http://www.voodoolab.com/switcher.htm
Commander Unit - http://www.voodoolab.com/commander.htm

 

[Ventura]

VL's products are alright, but if you go on the support forum, you'll see a common thread of issues with the switching relays in the floor panels.

I'm still sizing up the CAE goods, but the post purchase product support has got to be available

Peace, and HAPPY F'N NEW YEARS FELLOW RT'ERS!!!!!

V.

 

[Digital Jams]

I like my loop master floor patch myself, has 5 loops, tuner bypass and total bypass.

 

[Zachman]

Old news... My concern is product support.

Ever try getting ahold of Sir Bradshaw??


V.

Aloha V.,

Sir Bradshaw built my big rig, so yes I have-- however; I have no trouble getting in touch of him. He's easier to get a hold of via E-mail, than by phone though. As far as product support goes, I haven't had the need of any because they are just that reliable, which is why he's been able to stay in business for so long based solely on word of mouth endorsements of satisfied customers.

FWIW-- In the past, there was a stint where Bob was doing everything alone, which created a good wait time, but now he has others taking care of certain aspects of manufacturing-- making wait times MUCH smaller.

 

[Zachman]

Ah, so this is the controller you were telling me about on the phone. Very cool. I might end up with one in the future if the price is right.

Oh, and Voodoo Labs makes a floorboard looping system just like that CAA model above. I've used one before, really cool stuff. I'll find the link to it.

Ah ,here we go. Voodoo Labs Pedal Switcher. Combine it with a VDL Commander to set up presets. Cool little unit, IMO.

Pedal Switcher - http://www.voodoolab.com/switcher.htm
Commander Unit - http://www.voodoolab.com/commander.htm

Ya, that's the one. I am really curious about the Custom Shop "Big" version, to replace my double expanded RS10.

 

[Zachman]

I like my loop master floor patch myself, has 5 loops, tuner bypass and total bypass.

A L O H A Scott,

Happy New Year... I hope all is well w/ you and yours...

The products available nowadays are TOO cool. Solutions for every scenario, assuming the funds are available to facilitate the pay to play game that is involved with gear acquisition-- barring of course the guys who want it all in something the size of an iPod, in the $40 or under category.

 

[Digital Jams]

I like my loop master floor patch myself, has 5 loops, tuner bypass and total bypass.

A L O H A Scott,

Happy New Year... I hope all is well w/ you and yours...

The products available nowadays are TOO cool. Solutions for every scenario, assuming the funds are available to facilitate the pay to play game that is involved with gear acquisition-- barring of course the guys who want it all in something the size of an iPod, in the $40 or under category.

y0 Zach!

All is very well, had a great xmas and hope the same was with you.

I agree, the things that are out there today is incredible compared to the 80s when you had to LISTEN to music to figure it out and unless you had the coin for racks or Mesa stuff you were dumpster diving for Peavey or blasting the shit out of an old marshall Guys that rail the 80s have no clue the stuff they are playing now all came from the 80s........................shit I could have bought PRS basement built all day long back then for $1400.

I waited long for Bob's DC power supply and could not wait any longer and bought the PP pro+. The Loopmaster aint nothing to look at but it does work great with a smaller footprint, if I did not score that I would be trolling for a used CAE model.

 

[Zachman]

VL's products are alright, but if you go on the support forum, you'll see a common thread of issues with the switching relays in the floor panels.

I'm still sizing up the CAE goods, but the post purchase product support has got to be available

Peace, and HAPPY F'N NEW YEARS FELLOW RT'ERS!!!!!

V.

Speaking only for myself... I haven't gone the way of the VL products, rather prefer my insane approach. Re: support of the VL, that would be MXR/Dunlop would it not? This new MIDI controller is CAE Custom Shop.

When I use my smaller rigs, the need for a loop based switching system for pedals is just not there, as I seldom use more than 3 pedals, at little gigs. I usually take a MKIII combo, TU3, Dyna Comp, and the channel foot switch for the Boogie, and an Intellifex- which I set and forget.

 

[Zachman]

I like my loop master floor patch myself, has 5 loops, tuner bypass and total bypass.

A L O H A Scott,

Happy New Year... I hope all is well w/ you and yours...

The products available nowadays are TOO cool. Solutions for every scenario, assuming the funds are available to facilitate the pay to play game that is involved with gear acquisition-- barring of course the guys who want it all in something the size of an iPod, in the $40 or under category.

y0 Zach!

All is very well, had a great xmas and the same was with you.

I agree, the things that are out there today is incredible compared to the 80s when you had to LISTEN to music to figure it out and unless you had the coin for racks or Mesa stuff you were dumpster diving for Peavey or blasting the shit out of an old marshall Guys that rail the 80s have no clue the stuff they are playing now all came from the 80s........................shit I could have bought PRS basement built all day long back then for $1400.

I waited long for Bob's DC power supply and could not wait any longer and bought the PP pro+. The Loopmaster aint nothing to look at but it does work great with a smaller footprint, if I did not score that I would be trolling for a used CAE model.

A M E N... Shit, I waited 2 years for my rig from Bob, but that was because of the shit storm which hit him, right after I ordered my stuff. In the end, it was worth the wait. This shit is KILLER!!!

I've been sick since Christmas eve w/ bronchitis, and an abdominal hernia from hacking my freaking lungs out. I have a surgical consult on Jan 12.... Kinda nervous about it, but... Gotta do what I gotta do.

You still have an open invite to the islands, and the 1st round's on me.

 

[roadifier]

One time a while ago, my dad ordered a line mixer from bob, and it took around 2 1/2 years for it to arrive, but It was a really good line mixer!

 

[Zachman]

One time a while ago, my dad ordered a line mixer from bob, and it took around 2 1/2 years for it to arrive, but It was a really good line mixer!

Ya, I have the CAE Full rack space Dual 5 channel stereo line mixer, and it beats the crap out of the Rane SM26's that I, along with most guys, used back in the day. WAY transparent and functional.

 

[Digital Jams]

Oh man, well I hope the visit shows rest and rehab bro I have a shoulder that needs some big time scoping soon, almost half locked up.

Racks and rack fx gets crap from some but in the end it smokes 99% of all stomp boxes imo, the El Capistan is the first stomp that I would say compares to rack gear delays but that pedal is D to A conversions. No stomp I am aware of that beats Lexicon verbs, not even close. The DC-2 is killer for a stomp but the SDX-330 has it covered and much more. Every movie you watch is packed with lexicon and Eventide, what do they know right?????

 

[CaseyCor]

I really wish I had the cash to spend on some Custom Built CAA stuff. I'd love to have a 3 amp rig and my pedalboard/rack stuff all running via MIDI like I was talking about on the phone earlier. Mesa Rectifier or a Mark IV, a Friedmen Naked, and either a Vox AC30 or a Fender Vibrolux.

Oh, and get a Lexicon for reverbs and a T.C Electronics 1210 for the chorus sounds. Would end up using the flanger a little as well I'm sure. My main flange sound would come from an H.B.E Frostbite. I really like that pedal

 

[CaseyCor]

I guess with a rig like I posted above, I would need 18 or so loops, and 5-6 preset buttons on the bottom row.

Fender, Naked, Mark IV Clean, Mark IV Rhythm, Mark IV Lead

Compressor, Flanger, 2nd Flanger (Frostbite), Chorus, 2nd Chorus (EHX Small Clone or PolyChorus) Reverb, Delay, Boost, 2nd Boost, Fuzz

 

[Zachman]

Oh man, well I hope the visit shows rest and rehab bro I have a shoulder that needs some big time scoping soon, almost half locked up.

Racks and rack fx gets crap from some but in the end it smokes 99% of all stomp boxes imo, the El Capistan is the first stomp that I would say compares to rack gear delays but that pedal is D to A conversions. No stomp I am aware of that beats Lexicon verbs, not even close. The DC-2 is killer for a stomp but the SDX-330 has it covered and much more. Every movie you watch is packed with lexicon and Eventide, what do they know right?????

Ooh-- scoping the shoulder. Getting older and the falling apart that comes along with it, isn't too fun, but-- looking back at everything, it reminds us just how much we've lived right???

Hehehehe....

Ya, the arguing about it is just plain old silly. There are a ton of GREAT and crap gear on both the pedal and rack side of the isles. Different tools for different applications... I am just glad that I have options to cover pretty much whatever scenario comes my way. Bottom line for me-- I discovered what I like, a long time ago, and haven't had a need to have to compromise on them, and haven't found anything which has dethroned them. The AXE-FX is KILLER, but different sounding. The other modelers-- depending on the expectations and prerequisites as to how close is close enough, may or may not fit the bill.

The technology is so good nowadays, that it isn't a question of will it sound good-- rather, will it do what the player wants (assuming they can dial it in in the 1st place).

Truly-- if one's budget permits, you can get anything you want-- BUT knowing how to maximize it's potential, is another story all together. Great gear doesn't guarantee great results, just as playing well doesn't guarantee great ability to select, route, and dial in great gear to get effective results.

 

[Zachman]

I guess with a rig like I posted above, I would need 18 or so loops, and 5-6 preset buttons on the bottom row.

Fender, Naked, Mark IV Clean, Mark IV Rhythm, Mark IV Lead

Compressor, Flanger, 2nd Flanger (Frostbite), Chorus, 2nd Chorus (EHX Small Clone or PolyChorus) Reverb, Delay, Boost, 2nd Boost, Fuzz

I count 15 control functions (17) including the 1210 and Lexicon, assuming everything else stays the same.

Fender Select
Naked Select
MKIV Select
MKIV Clean/Crunch
MKIV Lead
Compressor
Flanger
2nd Flanger (Frostbite)
Chorus
2nd Chorus (EHX Small Clone or PolyChorus)
Reverb
Delay
Boost
2nd Boost
Fuzz