
Crunchtime
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Seems people can't get enough of this guy ripping them off.
Mailman1971":sbmqqk60 said:ejecta":sbmqqk60 said:Lord Toneking":sbmqqk60 said:psychodave comes to mindShiny_Surface":sbmqqk60 said:Lord Toneking":sbmqqk60 said:Mark has one of Steve's amps on the bench right now. I'm sure we'll all see it...in about 7 yrs![]()
There has always been an inner circle of people that have gotten their amps back and/or had better access to Mark.
It's the flood of Joe Q Publics wanting to get in on the action that usually suffer.![]()
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The more exclusive/harder to get Cameron's are, they will have mystique but drop in popularity if they become readily available/too easy to get.![]()
I pretty sure Dave likes being inside Mark's hairy "inner circle".
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Yeah....I really dont care either way as well.ejecta":3te1wzve said:Mailman1971":3te1wzve said:ejecta":3te1wzve said:Lord Toneking":3te1wzve said:psychodave comes to mindShiny_Surface":3te1wzve said:Lord Toneking":3te1wzve said:Mark has one of Steve's amps on the bench right now. I'm sure we'll all see it...in about 7 yrs![]()
There has always been an inner circle of people that have gotten their amps back and/or had better access to Mark.
It's the flood of Joe Q Publics wanting to get in on the action that usually suffer.![]()
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The more exclusive/harder to get Cameron's are, they will have mystique but drop in popularity if they become readily available/too easy to get.![]()
I pretty sure Dave likes being inside Mark's hairy "inner circle".
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Oh yeah I did...... because ejecta doesn't give a shit.
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ejecta":xi0crzkk said:Oh yeah I did...... because ejecta doesn't give a shit.
Shiny_Surface":2mu3frm6 said:ejecta":2mu3frm6 said:Oh yeah I did...... because ejecta doesn't give a shit.
I think you just stepped this thread up a notch referring yourself in the 3rd person.![]()
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Mailman laughed at Eject laughing out loud.ejecta":3ee4v9i6 said:Shiny_Surface":3ee4v9i6 said:ejecta":3ee4v9i6 said:Oh yeah I did...... because ejecta doesn't give a shit.
I think you just stepped this thread up a notch referring yourself in the 3rd person.![]()
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ejecta LOL'd.![]()
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Rezamatix":2gzt8ly3 said:Wow this thread is pretty funny and sad at the same time. I will dare give my opinion (even though I don't really have a dog in this fight).
Mark Cameron and new Co. should start a NEW Amp brand name.
Call It something completely NEW and forget about using the already spoken for Cameron amplification name that Brad & Co. have.
Then they can add (Designed and Built by Mark Cameron) as a tagline and call it a day.
The internet never forgets, why keep using the name when it has SO much bad press. Wouldn't it be better to drop a new amp line, NEW everything. NO pages upon pages of bullshit drama that will drive away any prospective buyer on the market who is doing some basic searching etc.
It seems like if a New amp dropped, that was AMAZING. And sounded incredible in everyway, then it would sell. What is stopping them except this "name" thing. Its not like Mark Cameron HAS to call it his name. Call it something else and get on with it. That seems to be the MOST futile thing in this whole debacle. Whats in a name? Is no one creative enough to come up with some Better?
NO disrespect intended to Marks family name, but get over that. The name has been dragged thru miles of crap on the internet, how about a fresh start?
I have yet to hear one his amps in person, I have only heard the Brad & Co. versions and they sounded pretty good. I wasn't mad at the sounds, but they didn't tickle my nuts like a Diezel.
I hope that SOMEONE somewhere makes the 14 guys who are owed amps WHOLE. The truth of it is, that ANY advertising of a new venture etc is totally disrespectful to those guys. Brad & Co. always got a pass on that, because they were NEVER responsible for putting those guys in that position.
In MY opinion, I think its pretty callous to come out with a NEW and IMPROVED Cameron Amp endeavor without have gotten those past issues cleared up.
How cool would it have been if all those guys got their amps (Now named something completely new and different) and THEY were on the boards saying "HEY, Mark Cameron and his new amp line, sent me a brand new badass amp, WITH a total apology and here it IS!!!
What would this thread be like if we were all watching those people who have lost all that time and money be made whole. this would be an entirely different experience.
But NO. Instead we are getting the hype machine, building up some more bad mojo on the internet, which never forgets btw.
glip22":274afiec said:Because Mark really does have remorse about the wrongs he did and wants nothing more than to make it right and clear his name. Time will heal the webs if they are successful. I know Jason enough to know he is THE ONLY ONE on this planet that can make it work with Mark. No one else had a chance. Shame on them for trying and fooling themselves.
johnpace2":3hn4fagc said:Stramm8":3hn4fagc said:I'm not a lawyer and obviously don't know the specifics of the agreement but based on what I have read, I don't think Mark Cameron has a leg to stand on in terms of having a right to the company name. Secondly, trying to hash out an agreement on a public guitar forum is a really bad idea and demonstrates a lack of basic understanding of how a negotiation should be handled.
If the agreement is still valid, then Brad and Tone Merchants are required to provide 14 CCV's, 14 refunds of $3,000 each or perhaps some type of subsitute amp. It's page 3, paragraph 14 and 15 of the agreement.
I'll take the $3,000.
glip22":152slq2e said:Because Mark really does have remorse about the wrongs he did and wants nothing more than to make it right and clear his name. Time will heal the webs if they are successful. I know Jason enough to know he is THE ONLY ONE on this planet that can make it work with Mark. No one else had a chance. Shame on them for trying and fooling themselves.
mentoneman":3k8x3tu6 said:according to facebook mark is back
yeah i know his rep has not been the cat's meow according to the endless stream of dubious tales from the information superhighway and insider eyewitness accounts,
but am i a horrible person to think his amps produce one of a kind, intoxicatingly oily sheets of thunder ejected straight from the trembling loins of Zeus
(in layman's terms really spanky/grinding/breathtaking overdriven rock tones)
and if you had to pick a plan B which would you choose?
henning cherry bomb, friedman SS sig, suhr PT100, fortin cali.....
glip22":9woctthm said:Because Mark really does have remorse about the wrongs he did and wants nothing more than to make it right and clear his name. Time will heal the webs if they are successful. I know Jason enough to know he is THE ONLY ONE on this planet that can make it work with Mark. No one else had a chance. Shame on them for trying and fooling themselves.
Rogue":qkgtetzb said:He should call them Drama Amps, just to keep it tied to the past.