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FriedChickenBandit

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I have a question about the newer Einsteins. My friend has been playing mine now for a couple months and he ordered one after playing mine for 3 days. He finally got his two days ago from GC and I noticed a couple more things with it such as a little more attention to detail with the LEDs on the back and the better machined screws etc, little things like that which is cool but when we fired it up the tone was far from mine. First it's a little darker which I like but the problem is that the treble and presence knobs are not usable at all. I mean we turned those things all the way and it hardly made a difference, we plugged into mine and those knobs work PLENTY you hear the difference.

My friend was very upset about this after spending that much money on it and he's really worried now but I told him that GC has 30 days satisfaction so he could return it no big deal and I also told him to email Peter and explain. I also told him that his Einstein has different tubes on the Power section but I think the preamp tubes are the same. My preamp tubes say nothing on them but they look like TADs, still I don't know how this would be a tube issue since a presence and treble knob should work when turned but who knows maybe there's something there with the tubes.

Now I'm really curious about this as I was thinking maybe in the future I'll get an Einstein for my home in NY so I don't have to ship mine back and forth from Vegas to NY but I need to know first. Has the voicing or anything on the newer Einsteins changed anything from the older ones because my friend's new Einstein sounds nothing like mine or rather it comes close, it has the same feel and base tone but you can't shape anything with the treble and presence. Has anyone experienced this with the newer Einsteins being darker and unresponsive with the treble and presence? It still sounds killer and all but it has this issue with the knobs, if it's even an issue. :dunno: :confused:
 
If the treble pot does nothing there is something wrong of course. Probably the EQ-driver tube needs to be replaced. The preamp tube layout is:

Einstein:
V1 Used by both channels
V2 Used by channel 2
V3 Used by both channels
V4 Mixer & Loop Driver
V5 Return Driver
V6 Phase Inverter

swap V4 and V5 and see, if its running correctly. Then - of course - replace the faulty tube (now probably in V4).

V1 is the tube closest to the input jack. Open the amp from its back.

HTH
 
Hey thanks for the help and advice brother. I'll pass this along to my friend and we'll see what happens. I hope this is the problem since it's a simple solution. :thumbsup: :D
 
jack butler":d771e said:
When you say it has different tubes than your's. Do you mean JJ's vs Ruby's or El34's vs 6l6's?
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Well, that's just it I don't know what mine has for preamp because they say NOTHING but they look like the TADs. His has TADs all around stamped on all the tubes. Mine are Ruby's on power section and again, I don't have a clue what they are for preamp but my amp kicks ass. Don't get me wrong so does his but my Treble and Presence are way ahead of his. Mine you just have to turn a little. In comparison his treble and presence dimed equal my treble and presence at 12:00 and if I dime mine, watch out. :LOL: :LOL:
 
Alright, I tried that and it didn't help. We checked all the tubes in his Einstein and I don't know wtf is up with this but they're all a cluster fuck of mixed TADs and Ruby's in the pre-amp. What's the deal? Mine are all the same and they're Ruby's, just had the brand erased/worn off but at least on mine they're consistent all one brand. We a/b'd the amps again and mine still kills it as far as treble and presence either something is wrong or Einsteins are not made the same but someone better step up and fast or GC is getting a return/refund for his amp.

This might sound rude but it is what it is, $3400 and it's not performing like it should or like the other Einsteins. At least me, I'm not in the business of being nice when I don't get what I paid for. When things like this happen I turn rude, stupid, animalistic and I want blood. Lucky that it ain't my amp that's screwed but he is a friend and now I'm pissed off because there's a little buzzing bee inside my head asking me wtf is Diezel doing not testing or a/b'ing a $3000+ product before it goes out the door. As of today I've lost all confidence in the Diezel name and that ain't good because I own an Einstein myself that's not even a year old. I pray to god that I'm over reacting and that I end up looking like an idiot for jumping the gun but I rather have that then a $3000 disappointment you what I mean? Of course you do.
 
Well, that's just it I don't know what mine has for preamp because they say NOTHING but they look like the TADs. His has TADs all around stamped on all the tubes. Mine are Ruby's on power section and again, I don't have a clue what they are for preamp but my amp kicks ass. Don't get me wrong so does his but my Treble and Presence are way ahead of his. Mine you just have to turn a little. In comparison his treble and presence dimed equal my treble and presence at 12:00 and if I dime mine, watch out.
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You might have an all chinese tube preamp, where his is a JJ in v-1 with chinese in the rest of the slots, when did you get your head? The JJ makes the distortion a little darker. Did you try the heads on the same cab and are the cabs different when you where doing the a/b? As far as the brand on the tubes, it just doesn't matter they're all made in the same factories, Peter just gets them where he gets them, be it Ruby, TAD, unbranded...whatever. So, if they weren't tried on a similar cab and/or the same one, and if you know that the v-1 preamp tubes are the same, something might be wrong then. If your v-1 isn't the same as his v-1 looks wise, try getting a high grade chinese for v-1, or be a pal and try your v-1 in his amp as well as through your cab, see if it's similar then.

-Nick
 
Hey_bert_whtcha_doin_bert":be2fe said:
Well, that's just it I don't know what mine has for preamp because they say NOTHING but they look like the TADs. His has TADs all around stamped on all the tubes. Mine are Ruby's on power section and again, I don't have a clue what they are for preamp but my amp kicks ass. Don't get me wrong so does his but my Treble and Presence are way ahead of his. Mine you just have to turn a little. In comparison his treble and presence dimed equal my treble and presence at 12:00 and if I dime mine, watch out.
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You might have an all chinese tube preamp, where his is a JJ in v-1 with chinese in the rest of the slots, when did you get your head? The JJ makes the distortion a little darker. Did you try the heads on the same cab and are the cabs different when you where doing the a/b? As far as the brand on the tubes, it just doesn't matter they're all made in the same factories, Peter just gets them where he gets them, be it Ruby, TAD, unbranded...whatever. So, if they weren't tried on a similar cab and/or the same one, and if you know that the v-1 preamp tubes are the same, something might be wrong then. If your v-1 isn't the same as his v-1 looks wise, try getting a high grade chinese for v-1, or be a pal and try your v-1 in his amp as well as through your cab, see if it's similar then.

-Nick
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I think my friend is getting a refund Fri. for the Einstein. I brought it over my house again and played with it and the parallel effects are not working either. Serial inputs work fine but not parallel, basically the amp is a mess and I have no clue how this snuck out the Diezel shop but we felt like throwing it under a truck. Hell, I was more pissed than he was because I don't put up with this type of bs being that I install custom made doors and bottom line it ain't happening man that's all I'm saying no excuse for it. :gethim: :gethim: :thumbsdown:

You know I was going to talk him out of it but when this new issue with the effects loop appeared. I told him straight out to get a refund because it's bs. If it was me I would have asked Diezel to send me an entire new preamp set of tubes as they should and that's it. I thought my friend was a little too patient and nice. I now feel like a complete asshole for urging him to pick up the Einstein since mine is so great. Going by comparison my 4 year old SLO had an issue which was tube related and I called Soldano to help and next thing I knew, I had not only power tubes but pre amp tubes at my door from them for free after 2 years of owning it. They also offered immediate shipping back to them if it wasn't the tubes. And I'll be honest though, my Einstein to me sounds better than the SLO but now I'm hoping Diezel has at least half the exellent customer service that Soldano has. So what do I do now as an honest human being, keep saying how great Diezel is? Why wasn't anyone calling my friend ASAP from Diezel why didn't anyone offer an address to ship it to immediately?

We tried everything under the exact circumstances and environment, same cabs guitars even the cables. We're not 2 idiots without common sense so we tested accordingly. Now I'm thinking that I shouldn't touch anything on mine any more in case some bad luck hits me too. Bottom line..we have 2 different amps although they're supposed to be the same and from the same maker.

To answer your question, I got my head about 3 months ago and both came from the same place here (GC) and again, it has Ruby tubes all around where his is a mix of Rubys and TADs. I don't know if my V1 is Ruby because it has no name or it was rubbed off but the others say Ruby.

Thanks for the help though man it's really appraciated even if nothing worked we still appreciated it. Seriously.
 
For such cases we have an US distributor.
Please call Uwe at 714 5381285. He should check
the amp and replace it, if needed.
We ship a batch of Einstein 100 tomorrow.

Sorry that I´m not able to be everywhere.
 
FriedChickenBandit":208c3 said:
Alright, I tried that and it didn't help. We checked all the tubes in his Einstein and I don't know wtf is up with this but they're all a cluster fuck of mixed TADs and Ruby's in the pre-amp. What's the deal? Mine are all the same and they're Ruby's, just had the brand erased/worn off but at least on mine they're consistent all one brand. We a/b'd the amps again and mine still kills it as far as treble and presence either something is wrong or Einsteins are not made the same but someone better step up and fast or GC is getting a return/refund for his amp.

This might sound rude but it is what it is, $3400 and it's not performing like it should or like the other Einsteins. At least me, I'm not in the business of being nice when I don't get what I paid for. When things like this happen I turn rude, stupid, animalistic and I want blood. Lucky that it ain't my amp that's screwed but he is a friend and now I'm pissed off because there's a little buzzing bee inside my head asking me wtf is Diezel doing not testing or a/b'ing a $3000+ product before it goes out the door. As of today I've lost all confidence in the Diezel name and that ain't good because I own an Einstein myself that's not even a year old. I pray to god that I'm over reacting and that I end up looking like an idiot for jumping the gun but I rather have that then a $3000 disappointment you what I mean? Of course you do.
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You stated that we are not testing the amps ? I´m not in the business of being nice when it comes to lies.
Please think about Your statement. An excusement would be fine !
 
FriedChickenBandit":eb18f said:
At least me, I'm not in the business of being nice when I don't get what I paid for. When things like this happen I turn rude, stupid, animalistic and I want blood. Lucky that it ain't my amp that's screwed but he is a friend and now I'm pissed off because there's a little buzzing bee inside my head asking me wtf is Diezel doing not testing or a/b'ing a $3000+ product before it goes out the door. As of today I've lost all confidence in the Diezel name and that ain't good because I own an Einstein myself that's not even a year old. I pray to god that I'm over reacting and that I end up looking like an idiot for jumping the gun but I rather have that then a $3000 disappointment you what I mean? Of course you do.
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Yes, you are a bit rude and over reacting. :thumbsdown:

Things like tubes or electronic stuff can break down during shipment, no matter what company.

Peter has a good reputation of putting a lot of effort in solving problems, just read the forum. Your post is insulting.
Calm down, get a grip and try getting the problem solved the nice way, it's probably a small thing.



Stay off the coffee.
 
This thread: LOL

So whats the problem with the amp now?

- mixxed brands of preamp tubes?
- treble/presence probs?
- a loop prob?

Question: did you really swap any of them (btw: why not try to use YOUR Einstein's preamp tubes? They seem to work)?
 
My Einstein was a little dark and muddy.
Then some weeks ago, it began to crack and to buzz.
The problem for me was the V1 TAD.
I never liked this tube.
Since I replace it my life has changed !
I rediscover my amp, the more I use it, the more I like it.
Einstein is a masterpiece amp.
 
Peter Diezel":3d11e said:
FriedChickenBandit":3d11e said:
Alright, I tried that and it didn't help. We checked all the tubes in his Einstein and I don't know wtf is up with this but they're all a cluster fuck of mixed TADs and Ruby's in the pre-amp. What's the deal? Mine are all the same and they're Ruby's, just had the brand erased/worn off but at least on mine they're consistent all one brand. We a/b'd the amps again and mine still kills it as far as treble and presence either something is wrong or Einsteins are not made the same but someone better step up and fast or GC is getting a return/refund for his amp.

This might sound rude but it is what it is, $3400 and it's not performing like it should or like the other Einsteins. At least me, I'm not in the business of being nice when I don't get what I paid for. When things like this happen I turn rude, stupid, animalistic and I want blood. Lucky that it ain't my amp that's screwed but he is a friend and now I'm pissed off because there's a little buzzing bee inside my head asking me wtf is Diezel doing not testing or a/b'ing a $3000+ product before it goes out the door. As of today I've lost all confidence in the Diezel name and that ain't good because I own an Einstein myself that's not even a year old. I pray to god that I'm over reacting and that I end up looking like an idiot for jumping the gun but I rather have that then a $3000 disappointment you what I mean? Of course you do.
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You stated that we are not testing the amps ? I´m not in the business of being nice when it comes to lies.
Please think about Your statement. An excusement would be fine !
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Wait, wait, wait I'm not saying you didn't test them come on now read carefully. I didn't say that, I said that "I don't know how that amp snuck out of the Diezel shop" and then I also said, "wtf is Diezel doing not testing or a/b'ing a $3000+ product before it goes out the door?" that's what I said.

Listen you need to understand I bought your product, I recomended your product to alot of people, my friend included. I love my Einstein and it's the best amp I've played. I think it's the best sounding amp I've played and the one amp that has an incredible Master knob. Now, a good friend of mine comes to me for advice on a new amp and I simply tell him get an Einstein end of discussion. He wants my SLO100 and I talk him out of it and tell him to get the Einstein. He does and he doesn't get the same amp I have. You need to sometimes put yourself into your customer's shoes that's all. He doesn't want anything for free man. He wants what he paid for that's all.

Look if you think I've insulted you or said anything out of line then let me say sincerely, I'M SORRY. The last thing I want to do is have you think that I'm being disrespectful and insulting. At least NOT YET, that comes later on if nothing gets resolved but we're not there yet. Just put yourself in my shoes and my friend's shoes. I'm also honest and I have to tell it like it is.

I'll tell you something about me and how I do business, maybe you don't want to hear it but we can all learn from even the most ignorant. It might be wise to pay attention to this, it's up to you.

I make and install custom made doors here in Vegas and mostly for big Casino execs and managers. I charge an arm and a leg for my work. Let's say I charge a Herb and an Einstein for my work. That's just for ONE door.
When some rich person wants Zebra Wood doors for his bathroom he'll get them. I get him 2 samples of 2 different woods for him to inspect for TWO days. I make sure it's what they want and once I bring the door to them to install I make sure they are at home that day to inspect the work in 3 intervals. Start, middle and finish and I make sure they tell me that they're satisfied. I have this small report cards, that I made years ago and it basically tells me how the customer feels on each aspect of the work. Looks, performance, labor and then they have to sign it. If the customer is not there to see the final step when I'm finished then I will not install the door. They'll have to be there for me to do it. I have a two year waiting list as I will not jeopardize my name and my work for more business. I do no more than 2 doors a month. If any time a customer calls me 2 or 3 days after my work is done and he finds out he doesn't like something. I drop whatever the hell I'm doing. I left my father's bed at the hospital after his last stroke to assist a customer once. I also give them NO QUESTIONS ASKED, a $1000 refund or discount on the spot. I've had to do this only twice in 12 years and as such I have more than enough work lined up until I die.

Why? Because when a customer pays me over $10,000 for a door I don't care how rich he is. I now become the customer and begin work as if I was receiving that door myself. They get 100% and if there's ever a screw up you can bet that I will not insult their intelligence with EXCUSES. I show up and fix it, and give them a discount even if its at 4 am when I was sleeping nice and warm. Why? Because I believe in giving the customer what they pay for and I want them to come to me next time they want a door or next time they recommend a door to anyone. I've installed doors for Celine Dion and Prince here in Vegas because I stand by my work and because my name goes on my work and because I believe that if I can't handle it or if I can't do what I outlined above..then I shouldn't be in business. If at the end of my work the customer is not satisfied. I will find a way to make them glad they chose me over someone else.

That's just what I believe in man. I'm just a little upset over my friend's amp and this put worries on my head because I own the same brand of amp. That's all

When this is resolved I'll be the first one here with my head on the guillotine giving respect and props where it's do trust me.
 
kunfi":368f1 said:
My Einstein was a little dark and muddy.
Then some weeks ago, it began to crack and to buzz.
The problem for me was the V1 TAD.
I never liked this tube.
Since I replace it my life has changed !
I rediscover my amp, the more I use it, the more I like it.
Einstein is a masterpiece amp.
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Thanks for the info, I'll try that.

I agree, my Einstein is a masterpiece but my friend's is not.
 
Have you tried to talk to your authorized dealer or even with Peter before come here and blame the name of the company.. and Peter Diezel's himself ??? :thumbsdown:

I think like with threads like this, people like you will only manage to bore Peter and who knows, maybe even close his official forum.. and only hear people from email...

C'mon... first step should be private... You dont know how comments like this can hurt an amazing Company like Diezel...

I really dont understand it... I've got a problem with one led blowed, contacted Peter, and we solved it... I think you should change your steps...

And now another simple question.. have you try to PUT YOU TUBES in HIS AMP ??? to see if it sounds like yours ??? (if it's just that you dont like the tubes, try it, maybe you find that the amp is perfect only that sounds different for the tubes... ) (opinions are like the ass.... everybody has one :thumbsup:
 
Some people really, really, really like to talk about themselves.

Every other guitarplayer would/should say:
- Hi, I'm blabla and i'm happy with my Diezel.
- My friends Diezel isn't working okay.
- This is the problem: bla bla bal bla bla.
- Peter, how can we solve this?

- Best regards, bla bla.



These Diezel amps just attract every kind of people. :LOL: :LOL:
 
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