New Suhr Guitar Line!

[guitarslinger]

$1332? Seems a bit high for an import imho.

$999 street.

John's weapon against the new Charvels, his are also Alder as the Charvels are.

my first thought was, "How much less Asian are the USA Charvel SoCals?"

 

[Variable]

While I think it's great that there is a budget line of Suhr guitars now being offered--and not to politicize this thread--but I feel this was a missed opportunity for John Suhr and Ed Yoon to create some more jobs in our increasingly outsourced economy. In an age with real unemployment averaging around %15-20, we simply can't afford to pass up any job creation opportunities, even if it gives us poor folks cheaper high-quality guitars.

Just MHO, of course. But outsourcing of manufacturing is killing us, and I'm sad that Suhr is following suit. Even though I know their intentions are good.

-Russ

 

[guitarslinger]

While I think it's great that there is a budget line of Suhr guitars now being offered--and not to politicize this thread--but I feel this was a missed opportunity for John Suhr and Ed Yoon to create some more jobs in our increasingly outsourced economy. In an age with real unemployment averaging around %15-20, we simply can't afford to pass up any job creation opportunities, even if it gives us poor folks cheaper high-quality guitars.

Just MHO, of course. But outsourcing of manufacturing is killing us, and I'm sad that Suhr is following suit. Even though I know their intentions are good.

-Russ

yeah, but the higher margins of many import lines might be the subsidy that keeps current USA manufacturing workers employed.

I'm just sayin'

 

[ratter]

While I think it's great that there is a budget line of Suhr guitars now being offered--and not to politicize this thread--but I feel this was a missed opportunity for John Suhr and Ed Yoon to create some more jobs in our increasingly outsourced economy. In an age with real unemployment averaging around %15-20, we simply can't afford to pass up any job creation opportunities, even if it gives us poor folks cheaper high-quality guitars.

Just MHO, of course. But outsourcing of manufacturing is killing us, and I'm sad that Suhr is following suit. Even though I know their intentions are good.

-Russ

yeah, but the higher margins of many import lines might be the subsidy that keeps current USA manufacturing workers employed.

I'm just sayin'

Good point. And while I'm not excited to see yet another line of import guitars introduced by a US maker, I have a feeling that Suhr will do it as well as it can possibly be done and probably better than anybody else does. What I don't like about it is that it seems to perpetuate the core of the one of the big problems with our country which is that we as consumers want too much and aren't wiling to pay for it. We have gotten used to $29 dvd players and $499 lcd tvs. Cheap food, cheap cars. If a great American-made guitar has to cost $1750 (and a Suhr Pro is a GREAT us made guitar for $1750) and you can only afford $999 - how 'bout saving up a little??

 

[Digital Jams]

While I think it's great that there is a budget line of Suhr guitars now being offered--and not to politicize this thread--but I feel this was a missed opportunity for John Suhr and Ed Yoon to create some more jobs in our increasingly outsourced economy. In an age with real unemployment averaging around %15-20, we simply can't afford to pass up any job creation opportunities, even if it gives us poor folks cheaper high-quality guitars.

Just MHO, of course. But outsourcing of manufacturing is killing us, and I'm sad that Suhr is following suit. Even though I know their intentions are good.

-Russ

yeah, but the higher margins of many import lines might be the subsidy that keeps current USA manufacturing workers employed.

I'm just sayin'

Good point. And while I'm not excited to see yet another line of import guitars introduced by a US maker, I have a feeling that Suhr will do it as well as it can possibly be done and probably better than anybody else does. What I don't like about it is that it seems to perpetuate the core of the one of the big problems with our country which is that we as consumers want too much and aren't wiling to pay for it. We have gotten used to $29 dvd players and $499 lcd tvs. Cheap food, cheap cars. If a great American-made guitar has to cost $1750 (and a Suhr Pro is a GREAT us made guitar for $1750) and you can only afford $999 - how 'bout saving up a little??

Agreed, I am impressed with the website's sales pitch and I can see many drooling over this but I am already happy with Charvels and mutts so I have zero gas for this guitar. Kind of like a BWM 3 series, you know damn well he could not afford the 5 series nor did he have the control to save longer to get what he really wanted. Why not save another 3-6 months and get the Pro series? Instant gradification.

 

[jkdsteve]

If a great American-made guitar has to cost $1750 (and a Suhr Pro is a GREAT us made guitar for $1750) and you can only afford $999 - how 'bout saving up a little??

Who's selling Suhr Pros for $1750??? Enquiring minds need to know...

 

[Variable]

If a great American-made guitar has to cost $1750 (and a Suhr Pro is a GREAT us made guitar for $1750) and you can only afford $999 - how 'bout saving up a little??

Who's selling Suhr Pros for $1750??? Enquiring minds need to know...

That's pretty much universal street for a Pro S1.

https://cgi.ebay.com/Suhr-Pro-Series-S1- ... 27ae85f683

You can find them for less used if you really look. Got mine for $1100 out the door

 

[Variable]

While I think it's great that there is a budget line of Suhr guitars now being offered--and not to politicize this thread--but I feel this was a missed opportunity for John Suhr and Ed Yoon to create some more jobs in our increasingly outsourced economy. In an age with real unemployment averaging around %15-20, we simply can't afford to pass up any job creation opportunities, even if it gives us poor folks cheaper high-quality guitars.

Just MHO, of course. But outsourcing of manufacturing is killing us, and I'm sad that Suhr is following suit. Even though I know their intentions are good.

-Russ

yeah, but the higher margins of many import lines might be the subsidy that keeps current USA manufacturing workers employed.

I'm just sayin'

Good point. And while I'm not excited to see yet another line of import guitars introduced by a US maker, I have a feeling that Suhr will do it as well as it can possibly be done and probably better than anybody else does. What I don't like about it is that it seems to perpetuate the core of the one of the big problems with our country which is that we as consumers want too much and aren't wiling to pay for it. We have gotten used to $29 dvd players and $499 lcd tvs. Cheap food, cheap cars. If a great American-made guitar has to cost $1750 (and a Suhr Pro is a GREAT us made guitar for $1750) and you can only afford $999 - how 'bout saving up a little??

<rant>
I agree. I think we get too caught up in the "I MUST HAVE THIS NOW" mentality, which leads to credit card debt, poor quality, and outsourcing of jobs. Personally I feel like it's high time we treat our trade partners the way they treat us: like shit. Because the US really gets screwed on exports. I say that for every product we import from another country that was outsourced by an American company, whatever was saved by exporting it is made up in a tariff that goes toward creating American jobs. So if it costs $.20 to make in China, and $1 in the US, charge the importer $.80. Or just ban outsourcing of labor all together. I mean, think about how many more jobs would be in the U.S. if the big CC companies couldn't route your call to some script-reading moron who barely understands English in Bangalore? I always hear people crying about how expensive American labor is, but in reality our standard of life is starting to look like ass compared to our peers. And if nobody in the U.S. has a good-paying job, how are we supposed to buy stuff to keep the economy going? It's like we're caught in this downward spiral to becoming a third-world country simply because a few CEOs want to get rich rather than live moderately.

So if I have to save up my money to get the American made guitar, then I'm more than happy to. Every time we buy something made overseas, that money is leaving our economy with little prospect of returning.
</rant>

 

[SFW]

Agreed, I am impressed with the website's sales pitch and I can see many drooling over this but I am already happy with Charvels and mutts so I have zero gas for this guitar. Kind of like a BWM 3 series, you know damn well he could not afford the 5 series nor did he have the control to save longer to get what he really wanted. Why not save another 3-6 months and get the Pro series? Instant gradification.

Well, I for one wouldn't be spending $2K for a guitar. Just can't justify spending that kind of money these days. I'd like to see more quality guitars with smaller price tags.

 

[swimrunner]

cool! ss or nickel frets? imo ss frets would really set these apart

 

[gbsmusic]

it was mentioned on HC.

btw your avatar is mesmerizing

photoshop or real haha?

100% real

That is amazing!!

 

[gbsmusic]

While I think it's great that there is a budget line of Suhr guitars now being offered--and not to politicize this thread--but I feel this was a missed opportunity for John Suhr and Ed Yoon to create some more jobs in our increasingly outsourced economy. In an age with real unemployment averaging around %15-20, we simply can't afford to pass up any job creation opportunities, even if it gives us poor folks cheaper high-quality guitars.

Just MHO, of course. But outsourcing of manufacturing is killing us, and I'm sad that Suhr is following suit. Even though I know their intentions are good.

-Russ

yeah, but the higher margins of many import lines might be the subsidy that keeps current USA manufacturing workers employed.

I'm just sayin'

 

[petethorn]

While I think it's great that there is a budget line of Suhr guitars now being offered--and not to politicize this thread--but I feel this was a missed opportunity for John Suhr and Ed Yoon to create some more jobs in our increasingly outsourced economy. In an age with real unemployment averaging around %15-20, we simply can't afford to pass up any job creation opportunities, even if it gives us poor folks cheaper high-quality guitars.

Just MHO, of course. But outsourcing of manufacturing is killing us, and I'm sad that Suhr is following suit. Even though I know their intentions are good.

-Russ

yeah, but the higher margins of many import lines might be the subsidy that keeps current USA manufacturing workers employed.

I'm just sayin'

Good point. And while I'm not excited to see yet another line of import guitars introduced by a US maker, I have a feeling that Suhr will do it as well as it can possibly be done and probably better than anybody else does. What I don't like about it is that it seems to perpetuate the core of the one of the big problems with our country which is that we as consumers want too much and aren't wiling to pay for it. We have gotten used to $29 dvd players and $499 lcd tvs. Cheap food, cheap cars. If a great American-made guitar has to cost $1750 (and a Suhr Pro is a GREAT us made guitar for $1750) and you can only afford $999 - how 'bout saving up a little??

Agreed, I am impressed with the website's sales pitch and I can see many drooling over this but I am already happy with Charvels and mutts so I have zero gas for this guitar. Kind of like a BWM 3 series, you know damn well he could not afford the 5 series nor did he have the control to save longer to get what he really wanted. Why not save another 3-6 months and get the Pro series? Instant gradification.

hey, I have a 2005 330i and it kicks all kinds of ass no lust for a 5 here.

here's a repost from my gear page thread I started about these new axes:

so awhile back I was visiting the Suhr factory, and Ed handed me a Modern, and asked me what I thought- I played it for a few minutes, and it was exceptional, felt like a typical Suhr guitar to me. Then he explained it was a sample, one of the protos for what's become the Rasmus line....

Well, first off, I was surprised- I had many of the same thoughts/questions/concerns as many of you. But I was holding this guitar, and it was essentially flawless. I mean, one of my concerns was actually how would this line affect sales of the regular Suhrs, because the guitar felt and played and looked so damn good. Flawless finish, perfect frets (makes sense, since the Suhr guys had done the whole setup). Obviously tight tolerances.

So we talked for a long while, and I brought up many things like what had happened to the Charvel/Jackson and Kramer lines in the 80's, etc. And Ed basically answered all of my questions, I didn't realize just how much experience and background he has dealing with Asian guitar factories, he really knows his stuff. He explained to me that with many of these companies in the 80's and 90's it was just about bottom line and expanding as fast as possible, and that they'd be raking in cash and living high on the hog, and maybe 1000 guitars would show up on the dock from Asia and the quality would be sub par, and that the bean counters would just send em out, instead of returning them. The Suhr guys clearly want nothing to do with that sort of b.s.- I don't know anyone more concerned with quality than John- so trust me he gets it, there's really no way he'd put his name on something if it wasn't up to snuff. Like, he wouldn't be able to sleep at night anymore. He just wouldn't do it. So whatever Ed has sorted out as far as a factory goes, I'll tell you, this guitar I played felt just exceptional.

As far as demographic, from what Ed told me they are aiming for the dudes that would normally be buying the Ibanez, the Schecter, the guys on the Petrucci forum that really would love a Suhr but can't (til now) afford it. Young guys or guys on a budget playing modern rock, metal, shred, etc.- hence the H-S-S and H-S-H pickup layouts, floyds, Modern body shape etc.

So that's my take on it. Pick one up and play it before you worry too much about anything else- honestly, Ed handed me this guitar, I didn't know, literally had no idea I wasn't playing a US made Modern when I played it, until he told me- so I guess that in of itself is an endorsement.

 

[Mesa\Kramer]

it was mentioned on HC.

btw your avatar is mesmerizing

photoshop or real haha?

100% real

Please post full size pic!

 

[ke2]

He he he, Rasmus is a Danish name
John`s full name is John Suhr Rasmussen.

Cool twist!

Doh!
edit:
I just looked at the entire page... My revelation is obviously revealed there