New to Rig-talk, new to Diezel. Introduction & few questions

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Hi all,
I am absolutelly new to Rig Talk and Diezel amps. I already wrote my questions directly to Diezel amps and received no answer :gethim: in a week so, I think this should be the way.

How I came to Diezel amps is a little bit strange. I really never had a nice amp, I had a Marshall valvestate for a long time and bored of their tones I sold everything and started from the beginning.
I purchased a POD X3 Live :confused: , as a tool to "evaluate" several mythic amps and stompboxes. Most of the amps I liked weren't available on my closests stores to test so, it was a tricky approach :cry:.
The thing is that, when trying the different amp models of POD X3 Live, I was in love with Diezel Herbert tones so, that was my amp to go but, I didn't want to expend so much money to get my first all-tube amp :doh: .
According to my current needs, I went for a Koch Studiotone combo. I really like this amp, with stunning cleans, nice cruch and also a nice lead tone (but still not so liquid as I had in my modeled herbert). That combo works really nice for recordings (studio and at home) and when played alone. When played with other people, specially with hard-beating drummers and one or two more guitars, the sound is lost in the mix so, I remember again my dreamed amp and went to Diezel :lol: :LOL:

I am now selling all my guitars (except my strato) to get a Diezel amp.
I rejected the Herbert because of their incredible power (180W) and I wanted to go for a 50W solution so, I choosed the Einstein.
I wanted this time to try a head instead of a combo so, I was doubting between the 50W and 100W versions and, finally, I choosed the 100W head because: it was only 90 EUR expensiver, the easy biasing thing and the possibility to mix different tube types :thumbsup:

So... It came other decission: what cab?.
After reading some of the posts here and comparing prices, I decided to go for a 2x12 Diezel cab but then, it came the doubt: Front or Rear loaded?

At this time, I placed an order in Musik Produktiv and I wanted to be sure that I ordered what I really needed (because I am still in time to change it) so, I would appreciate any bit of info any of you can bring me. :thumbsup:

Take into account that THIS will be my FIRST head and cab so, I am absolutelly a noob and, maybe my questions are at the level of a turtle's brain but... let's shoot them:

1) 2x12 Front or Rear loaded cab?. I ordered FC but, it will be availlable on some point on February :thumbsdown: while the RC it's being available just now.

2) How will the Einstein work at home practice volumes and for home recordings? Will I need some kind of attenuator unit? In that case, which one suits the best without compromissing the sound?. Take into account that I leave in a flat and something sounding higher than a TV set would be unacceptable to my neighborghs.

3) How fine works the DI for home recordings? do I need some special cab simulator sofware also?. Can I use instead some affordable mic to get the best of my einstein at low volumes?

4) I am wondering if the Einstein can be prepared with the 3 modes switch mode from factory (hell, I really don't understand why aren't they comming stock like this! :gethim: ). I am a little bit afraid to receive the head and then send it back to Germany to do the mod. I don't rely on carriers and delicated stuff.

5) What other complements will I need?. I mean, I don't know if the cab cames with cables or not. Even, I don't know which (and how many, what size, which connectors...) cables will I need to connect the cab to the head (you see... I warned you... I am really a noob).. So, recommended cables that can be found online (thomann, musik produktiv)?

BACKGROUND:
The time of gigging is over for me so, I need this amp for home practicing/recording as well as for studio recordings and for jams with friends.
I like music with character. Like clean cleans (think on Gilmour) and stunning distos (like I heard in my modeled Herbert). I play mainly hard rock (think on Zeppelin, Purple...) but I am not in the metal side (I am not an shredder or tapper), I also like to play blues (VOX AC30 and Tube Driver sound, by example) and some Rythm&Blues stuff (think on Hendrix, Trower, SRV).

Thanks to anyone that (after laughing for a while) wanted to answer some of the questions and, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE!.
 
1.) I'd go for the rear loaded cab. Just my preference.

2.) The Einstein sounds great at lower volumes, and only gets better with volume.

3.) No Experience with the DI.

4.) There are instructions for doing this mod on the forum, and he would be more than happy to help you. (Duesentrieb)

5.) Regular guitar cables will work.
 
^Don't use a regular guitar cable to connect the head to the cab. You need a speaker cable.
 
mhenson42":62zibjsj said:
^Don't use a regular guitar cable to connect the head to the cab. You need a speaker cable.
Are you serious? FUCK! *runs to unplug amp*
 
Szar":14yx94g2 said:
1.) I'd go for the rear loaded cab. Just my preference.
Why?. What's what you like of RC and you don't like of FC?
Which one is the best for studio recordings?

4.) There are instructions for doing this mod on the forum, and he would be more than happy to help you. (Duesentrieb)
I saw it but, I also understood that this mod (DIY or done by a pro) removes the warranty. So, if every Einstein owner is claiming for THAT mod I am wondering WHY in the hell I cannot buy an stock Einstein having that mod and be under warranty. :gethim:

5.) Regular guitar cables will work.

sure? :confused:
 
No man use a thick guage speaker cable not a normal guitar cable. That can be bad bad news. I just got an Einstein a few weeks ago and yeah it works well for lower volume playing at home since thats all i do but yeah like someone already said its obviously gonna sound better the louder you go. As far as cab ive never tried the Diezel cabs but you really cant go wrong with either front or rear loaded. Front loaded tends to be a little tighter i think. Congrats on picking the Einstein though you wont be sorry and the list of artists you like to play and jam to will sound fantastic with this amp :yes:
 
Apex1Rg7X":147fgbwm said:
No man use a thick guage speaker cable not a normal guitar cable. That can be bad bad news. I just got an Einstein a few weeks ago and yeah it works well for lower volume playing at home since thats all i do but yeah like someone already said its obviously gonna sound better the louder you go. As far as cab ive never tried the Diezel cabs but you really cant go wrong with either front or rear loaded. Front loaded tends to be a little tighter i think. Congrats on picking the Einstein though you wont be sorry and the list of artists you like to play and jam to will sound fantastic with this amp :yes:

I hope so, mate :scared: because I am selling 3 gibbys and 1 PRS to have this amp!!! :cry:
 
Always use a proper guitar cable to go from guitar to amp. NEVER use a guitar cable to connect amp to cabinet. ALWAYS use a proper speaker cable. It is impossible to say what is "best" regarding a front or rear loaded cabinet. They both sound good and they are both different from each other. My personal preference for the Einstein is a rear loaded cabinet.
 
Duolos":2nfnnf0n said:
Always use a proper guitar cable to go from guitar to amp. NEVER use a guitar cable to connect amp to cabinet. ALWAYS use a proper speaker cable. It is impossible to say what is "best" regarding a front or rear loaded cabinet. They both sound good and they are both different from each other. My personal preference for the Einstein is a rear loaded cabinet.

Thanks a lot, it makes it easier to have my einstein before on the time.
What about recording at low volumes?
Better to go with some kind of attenuator with cab modeling or does the DI work fine with some kind of cab modeling software?
what attenuator or software?

BTW, HAPPY NEW YEAR
 
Again....all these things come down to preference. I would try what you have and see what happens. You may have wonderful results like many have had. Once you have a base, you can let your ears or your recording technique decide what is needed. To say this is the way to do something would be misleading and may end up costing you more time, effort and money then you need to be spending to get your desired result.

A good mic placed properly on the speaker will result in a good recording. The key is balancing the sweet spot of the mic with the sweet spot of the speaker and having the levels work together. Understand that a good recording may not equate to a certain tone type. It is the sum of all parts working together to get the end result. There is no one better way and changing one thing can change everything.
 
Well, I saw that a lot of people is using a Palmer PDI-03 Speaker Simulator for silent recordings and I think this is the way I will choose because I have no mic. I will probably use the cab micked for studio recordings and the Palmer for home recordings (no cab).

By the way, what kind of speaker cable connectors do I need (for a diezel 2x12RC cab)?
Jack/Jack?
Jack/speakon?
 
Still with the speaker cables stuff...

There are:

2 x .155"
2 x .225"
2 x 4"

Having read the importance of the cables in the Einstein's manual, and some interview video to Peter, what is the recommended section/gauge?
 
hermetico":2j9l1dxf said:
Hi all,
5) What other complements will I need?. I mean, I don't know if the cab cames with cables or not. Even, I don't know which (and how many, what size, which connectors...) cables will I need to connect the cab to the head (you see... I warned you... I am really a noob).. So, recommended cables that can be found online (thomann, musik produktiv)?
They were good enough (speaker and instrument) for Jimi and SRV, so they're good enough for Diezel. If you can't find them then I would suggest George L cables. Check out the attachment.

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King Crimson":1t83vxsx said:
They were good enough (speaker and instrument) for Jimi and SRV, so they're good enough for Diezel. If you can't find them then I would suggest George L cables. Check out the attachment.

Sure, mate but, that people had a tech (or an army of them), working like a caddy, to make everything working fine (Roger Mayer, etc). ;)

I wouldn't like to spend a lot of time and money BUYING and testing cheap and expensive cables (it could cost still more than an acceptable guitar). :thumbsdown:

If Peter was able to suggest the Cordial CGK 75 as a good price/quality cable (I already owned Cordial CGK 175 ones :D) for Diezel amps, I would like to know what are your suggestions for speaker cables, in the same league (good price/quality for Diezel), those that sound nice without having to void your bank account. :doh:

BTW, thanks a lot for this incredible BOOK of info. :thumbsup:

And yes, I am a Noob (talking about heads and cabs), as I adviced but, hell!, I look a lot better than this ugly man :) (maybe, did you take that shot while looking to your mirror? :D )
 
:confused: Hmmm...
I will try to put it still easier for you.

What speaker cable is included with the EINSTEIN COMBO? brand/model/gauge? :D
 
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