Noise gate necessary for recording?

[cyndicate]

For some reason when I try recording my Mark IV at output 3 and channel level set at 3 it has this very big squeal, I guess its pickup squeal? not sure what the cause is because I am a noob when it comes to recording I can record fine at Level 2 and output 2, but any higher is nuts. Will a noise gate fix this problem? I'm thinking of just throwing a ISP Decimator into the front end.

Do you guys always use a noise gate when recording? Once I start playing its fine, but that squeal starts when I stop playing, so far I've been compensating with the volume knob.

Also anyone got a ISP Decimator pedal for sale?

 

[cyndicate]

Also one more thing, Decimator Pro Rack G vs Pedal.. worth the extra few hundred bucks?

 

[SFW]

The squeal is because 3+3 is hella loud! The Mark IV has a great Master Volume. Back the global master down until the feedback stops. If you are getting feedback, either move away from the amp, or turn down.


I have spent hours in the studio with the Mark IV. I've never had issues with feedback.

 

[cyndicate]

The squeal is because 3+3 is hella loud! The Mark IV has a great Master Volume. Back the global master down until the feedback stops. If you are getting feedback, either move away from the amp, or turn down.


I have spent hours in the studio with the Mark IV. I've never had issues with feedback.

Yep, 3+3 had my ears ringing for awhile, but the recording came out better than 2+2 because I was able to lower the level on the mic-pre. I guess feedback is the issue, standing a few feet away from the amp probably was the problem haha. How high do usually setup the amp when recording? I am super noob with recording so everything I record sounds like crap. I'll try to post a clip when I mess around with it more this weekend.

 

[SFW]

3+3 is what I usually record at. However, I have the cab in one room and the head and I are in the control room.

 

[nbarts]

I had a very good noise gate, sold it & never looked back.

 

[cyndicate]

3+3 is what I usually record at. However, I have the cab in one room and the head and I are in the control room.

Ah I see, I am planning on building a Isolation Cab for my 2x12 and then throwing that in a closet in the other room, just haven't gotten around to it.

 

[SFW]

If you check the Mark IV clips in my sig, I was within 5 feet of the amp next to my computer desk when those were recorded. You just have to be good with the volume knob on your guitar.

 

[cyndicate]

I had a very good noise gate, sold it & never looked back.

How come you sold it?

 

[Anonymous]

I can turn mine up that loud and record. It shouldn't be sqealing unless you are too close to the amp. I have used a noise gate recording, but I wouldn't recommend it. Also, no need to record the MKIV that loud to get a good tone. At one on the master it is friggin' loud and has all the nice characteristics of the tone. I've gotten great recorded tone at bedroom volume (under 1 on the master and 3 on the channel)...

Steve

 

[nbarts]

I had a very good noise gate, sold it & never looked back.

How come you sold it?

When something stays in the rack unused for over 6 months & you have better way to use the money....

It was Drawmer DS201, very good gate, but the tone is always better without one.

 

[cyndicate]

I can turn mine up that loud and record. It shouldn't be sqealing unless you are too close to the amp. I have used a noise gate recording, but I wouldn't recommend it. Also, no need to record the MKIV that loud to get a good tone. At one on the master it is friggin' loud and has all the nice characteristics of the tone. I've gotten great recorded tone at bedroom volume (under 1 on the master and 3 on the channel)...

Steve

Hmmm.. I guess I just suck at recording haha.. I probably need more time to mess with it, I ordered a Noise Gate just to mess around with, hopefully its not a complete waste of money.

 

[sled]

I never use a gate on guitars that I track...

 

[GRK]

Not if your setup isn't THAT noisy. I would clear the beginning/ending of the songs and maybe if there's quiet parts in between where you hear a little hum/hiss but besides that, if it's not ridiculous, you can't hear them anyway. I don't think it's an absolute necessity. My setup is pretty quiet right now but I still listen with a headphone and de-amplify any hum/hiss I hear. I don't use a noise gate at the moment.

If you are set on getting one, ISP Decimator kicks major ass. I had the ProRackG and I loved it. But I sold it since right now setup is dead silent.

 

[OneArmedScissor]

I never use noise gates. I stand right in front of my amps when they're turned up all the way, and I still don't need one. But that's largely because I'm so awesome. I definitely don't see the allure in something that states in its name that it is designed to decimate your tone. Attempt to argue with my logic, and you will contract super AIDS.

 

[Jordon]

I use gates live for really rhythmic chunking with a lot of starts and stops. In the studio, we'll throw it on there once in a while if we don't want to go in and cut out and bullshit in the stops (if there is any).

 

[anomaly]

The squeal is because 3+3 is hella loud! The Mark IV has a great Master Volume. Back the global master down until the feedback stops. If you are getting feedback, either move away from the amp, or turn down.


I have spent hours in the studio with the Mark IV. I've never had issues with feedback.

Yep, 3+3 had my ears ringing for awhile, but the recording came out better than 2+2 because I was able to lower the level on the mic-pre. I guess feedback is the issue, standing a few feet away from the amp probably was the problem haha. How high do usually setup the amp when recording? I am super noob with recording so everything I record sounds like crap. I'll try to post a clip when I mess around with it more this weekend.

A noise gate would help, no doubt. But try lowering the gain and standing further away from the amp first, if possible.

To get a good recorded sound is fairly simple IMO. Buy a Shure SM-57 microphone. Place it right up to the grill, towards the edge of the speakers dust cap (that middle part of the cone) to start. Then adjust the angle, distance etc.. and experiment... Mic placement is really important when recording.