Noise reduction units

[yngzaklynch]

Whats the difference between
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ ... 8000000000
and
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ ... 6000000000

and has anyone tried this
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ ... 8000000000

 

[Badronald]

Every time I go to look at one of these I find someone selling a NS-2 on CL for $40 so..........I keep using NS-2's. They work great for me.

Didn't answer your question.

 

[Code001]

Decimator reduces any noise to/from the input. G-String reduces noise to/from the input and loop.

 

[Red_Label]

Whats the difference between
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ ... 8000000000
and
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ ... 6000000000

and has anyone tried this
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ ... 8000000000

The G-String is the pedal version of the Pro Rack G Decimator. Like its "big brother" it can do two differing signal paths at the same time. You put one side of the pedal as the last hop in your pedals coming before your amp's input. And you put the other side as the last hop in your amp loop. I've planned on getting the G-String or ProRack G for some time now, as I've heard they are very good (as in better than the rest). But they're not cheap, so I have yet to actually grab one. The regular ISP pedal isn't any better or more useful than the MXR (or other) pedals from what I've learned. But what do I know... everything I know I learned from teh interwebz!

 

[yngzaklynch]

Thanks

 

[rottingcorpse]

i have all 3, and a boss ns-2.

not a bad unit in the bunch.

really liking the noise clamp over the rest though. price can't be beat (except by a used boss ns-2). the mxr was designed for high gain. i have used it in the front and the loop of a bunch of high gain heads, and am rather impressed. clamps down fast, way faster than the isp or boss units, like it was designed for super tight thrash. both the attack and release rates are way fast, 3ms and 10 ms respectfully, i think.

i found that if you turn the isp units up too far, they cut out the sound totally (of course, then you are using it wrong according to the instructions). but the noise clamp can be turned way up (if you have a super hot signal going to it) without it affecting the tone....much.....i guess....because in all honesty the high end is a little burned out in my ears.

 

[yngzaklynch]

Thanks Corpse. Does it color the sound at all? I believe I have a ground loop hum. Will the Clamp help?

 

[Meathead]

The best, most transparent, noise reduction unit....

 

[dulrich1227]

The best, most transparent, noise reduction unit....

^^ THAT

 

[glip22]

The problem I have with gates is that they are impossible to set in order to have them work with higher gain and volume and then being able to switch to a clean channel or work the guitar's volume control for dynamics, etc. I don't think it is possible without the noise reduction or gate choking off the notes at lower gain and volume and or a lower signal coming from the guitar

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

Thanks Corpse. Does it color the sound at all? I believe I have a ground loop hum. Will the Clamp help?

I have the same exact electrical Hum problem at my g.f's when I play over there that I have heard in your clips..
Hum X didnt work, tried the standard Decimator and it did not work either..

With the standard Decimator besides coloring your sound and chopping off some sustain with the knob only set to 9 o'clock just a 1/4 the way up
The way that the gate works on the Decimator it gets rid of the hum when you stop playing and gate kicks in soon as you start playing and the gate releases that Hum comes back underneath your sound..

There was nothing wrong with the 1st one that I had because the 2nd one I got as a replacement did the same exact thing and that includes using Isp's power supply with both..

My g.f. was food shopping last year right before Xmas, when she returned to her car she found a blue bag laying next to her car and inside of it was a brand new standard Decimator still in the box and shrink wrap..
I tried that one with the same results as the prior 2..

For your problem you are probably better off having your electrical fixed, exactly what I am considering rightnow because I am tired of trying the quick fixes that do not work..

 

[roadifier]

The G string is not the pedal version of the pro rack G. I have had all the decimators, the G string is a regular decimator with guitar tracking so the gate closes more accurarely than the regualar decimator. There isn't any difference from the decimator and G string, except tht the G string has guitar tracking.

 

[glip22]

What would be great is a noise reduction/gate that could read your signal and self adjust so that when you lowered or raised your signal it would still work and not choke your notes off. I would buy that in a heartbeat. That would be huge seller.

 

[deadweight]

I have the prorack G and its awesome but if youre planning to use any delay theyre all useless

 

[King Crimson]

My noise gate in my tc electronic g-major is more than excellent it is superb. You simply need to know how to adjust it/program it. You guys are way too stuck up – and gear dissolved, depleted. Nobody, guitarist or not on the floor is going to notice the nuances or in a studio that you are attempting to complete and accomplish.

Pros that come by my studio and check out my rig find it hard to believe than my rig is so quiet, sparkling clean, percussive, and with a $500 rack all in one device. It is absolutely perfect.

Waste as much money as you want, but I will show you pure tone in a simple rack box.

 

[glpg80]

better off having your electrical fixed, exactly what I am considering rightnow because I am tired of trying the quick fixes that do not work..

i owned supposedly the best noise gate in the business a few years back. isp decimator prorack G with the factory stereo mod.

there is a detailed review in the review section for those wanting a unit review, and then my honest opinion in the replies after that review about the effectiveness of it all.

to summarize for those who have not read it or dont care to, it goes along the lines of the quote above.

 

[Zachman]

My noise gate in my tc electronic g-major is more than excellent it is superb.

It's okay... But I wouldn't get goofy about how it's the bee's knees. My $.02

You simply need to know how to adjust it/program it.

There is something to be said about knowing how to use the tools well.

You guys are way too stuck up – and gear dissolved, depleted.

Nobody, guitarist or not on the floor is going to notice the nuances or in a studio that you are attempting to complete and accomplish.

I think for me-- the bigger point would be-- will I notice? (Who cares if someone else notices?? Not me... I use gear for me) If the answer is yes-- then it's worth at least considering... imo

Pros that come by my studio and check out my rig find it hard to believe than my rig is so quiet, sparkling clean, percussive, and with a $500 rack all in one device. It is absolutely perfect.

I used to use noise reduction in my previous rigs, but found that wiring everything up correctly eliminated the need in my current rig.

Waste as much money as you want, but I will show you pure tone in a simple rack box.

That sure came across snarky...

 

[yngzaklynch]

So other than rewireing the outlet to the breaker box, there is no cure for ground loop induced hum?

 

[Code001]

http://www.ebtechaudio.com/humxdes.html

 

[glpg80]

So other than rewiring the outlet to the breaker box, there is no other safe cure for ground loop induced hum that is also perfectly transparent?

fixed, and the answer would be you are correct.