Now 100% done with the TN100 - BE100 Based Build

[CrazyNutz]

Wow, really cool. You are here in Big D?

Arlington but work in Dallas. I like all of your BE100 clips. Would you considered trying it out and giving be some feedback? No to mention my playing sucks and I do it any justice in of my videos

Rad, I'm in Ft. Worth. We need to get together and play with amps.

BTW I built a BE100 too, just haven't added all the features.

 

[SpiderWars]

The Sourmash Hiwatt-style cab I recently got is fantastic. Would def buy from them again.

 

[scottosan]

The Sourmash Hiwatt-style cab I recently got is fantastic. Would def buy from them again.

i bought a standard Marshall cab from sourmash and it was a little too shallow. The back panel wasn't flush. The one from Valvestorm fit perfect

 

[scottosan]

Wow, really cool. You are here in Big D?

Arlington but work in Dallas. I like all of your BE100 clips. Would you considered trying it out and giving be some feedback? No to mention my playing sucks and I do it any justice in of my videos

Rad, I'm in Ft. Worth. We need to get together and play with amps.

BTW I built a BE100 too, just haven't added all the features.

cool man. I'm up for that

 

[kurtsstuff2003]

Every time I read a post like this..I get the uncontrollable urge to either build something or, tear something apart!! lol!
Great looking build!!

 

[JerEvil]

Wow, really cool. You are here in Big D?

Arlington but work in Dallas. I like all of your BE100 clips. Would you considered trying it out and giving be some feedback? No to mention my playing sucks and I do it any justice in of my videos

Dude... just send it on out here to Vegas and I will be more than happy to "clip it up!" LOL!

 

[scottosan]

Where is the cab from again? I bought one from Mojo for my first build and I'm not that happy with the quality. Staples sticking out, screws for the feet go all the way through the floor and stick up, preventing the chassis from sliding in/out, the front lip of the floor is raised, so it overlaps the front plate of the chassis and covers the writing for the bright switches, the rear panel has no ferrels for the screws, so they are tearing the tolex and cracking the wood, the front is pretty loose. It's held on by screws and glued, but the glue is weak/hasn't set yet and the panel has movement in it. The actual wood used is quite thin. Overall, just a crap job. I ordered another one from Sourmash. So I'll see if that's any better.

This was from Valvestorm

 

[mixn4him]

That looks awesome! I got lost on the structure switch thing, it sounded like HBE was too hot but then it sounded like you added gain by halving the cathode resistor and adding a bypass cap. Do I have that backwards?

On the 2016 BE100, the on board v2a cathode resistor is 10k. Stock, the structure switch gives you the option stock 10k in the middle, a parallel 4.7k to the right, and a parallelled 3.3k/.68uf to the left. The pre-2016 just and a 2.7k/.68uf v2a. So, with the the structure in the highest gain setting, it was way too high gain with the HBE engaged, and with hot pickups you would get some unwanted feedback. What I did was when switching to HBE, it would remove the structure switch out of the circuit and and add a 10k/.33uf in parallel with the on board 10k so that you are getting 5k/.33uf vs 2.7k/.68

This is cool, the thing I did not like and noticed when I built the BE preamp into my clone is that the gain control is really late in the circuit. That's why if you hit the front end with a hot pickup in the HBE mode its just over the top because of all those gain stages hitting each other without a gain pot to control it. I ended up back closer to stock 2204 structure with some tweaks, seems more responsive to rolling down on the guitar..But great job on this!

 

[LP Freak]

I play with Aldrich pickups and never found it over the top. And I'm not a high gain player. I think you might give people the wrong impression

 

[Rdodson]

Sure thing. PM me and we can get together.

Wow, really cool. You are here in Big D?

Arlington but work in Dallas. I like all of your BE100 clips. Would you considered trying it out and giving be some feedback? No to mention my playing sucks and I do it any justice in of my videos

 

[technomancer]

Awesome work, the discussion around this and FourT6and2's build threads have actually got me visiting here again and reading up on amp design

 

[scottosan]

Awesome work, the discussion around this and FourT6and2's build threads have actually got me visiting here again and reading up on amp design

Back in the day people used to but tube kits all of the time and build stuff (heathkit) It's not for everyone, but it will make you understand why amps are so expensive. I am afraid to add up the parts alone on this. Add in business costs, employees and bills etc, gives you a new respect for people that do this for a living.

There is alot of information out there, but unfortunately, people like Billy Bladez has made it so that people are more guarded with the wisdom and information.

 

[technomancer]

Awesome work, the discussion around this and FourT6and2's build threads have actually got me visiting here again and reading up on amp design

Back in the day people used to but tube kits all of the time and build stuff (heathkit) It's not for everyone, but it will make you understand why amps are so expensive. I am afraid to add up the parts alone on this. Add in business costs, employees and bills etc, gives you a new respect for people that do this for a living.

I already have an appreciation for the costs / time involved. I'm not one of the guys that complains about what amps like Friedmans cost because the parts cost is less than what they're charging. It honestly sort of amazes me seeing guys that think well parts cost is $1000 or $1500 so that's what the amp should go out the door for. It's always hilarious as those are usually also the same guys complaining they're not getting paid enough...

Not sure I'm brave enough to tackle a build but we'll see. I'd love to do something like a single channel JJ with an additional tube gain stage at some point, buy not sure I'll get the time to figure it all out. For the moment more reading up and going to tackle a couple of pedal builds to get back into practice soldering and see how it goes from there.

If I take the plunge I'd definitely start with something simpler, maybe a tweed circuit.

 

[CrazyNutz]

Awesome work, the discussion around this and FourT6and2's build threads have actually got me visiting here again and reading up on amp design

Back in the day people used to but tube kits all of the time and build stuff (heathkit) It's not for everyone, but it will make you understand why amps are so expensive. I am afraid to add up the parts alone on this. Add in business costs, employees and bills etc, gives you a new respect for people that do this for a living.

I already have an appreciation for the costs / time involved. I'm not one of the guys that complains about what amps like Friedmans cost because the parts cost is less than what they're charging. It honestly sort of amazes me seeing guys that think well parts cost is $1000 or $1500 so that's what the amp should go out the door for. It's always hilarious as those are usually also the same guys complaining they're not getting paid enough...

Not sure I'm brave enough to tackle a build but we'll see. I'd love to do something like a single channel JJ with an additional tube gain stage at some point, buy not sure I'll get the time to figure it all out. For the moment more reading up and going to tackle a couple of pedal builds to get back into practice soldering and see how it goes from there.

If I take the plunge I'd definitely start with something simpler, maybe a tweed circuit.

I suggest you do a plexi amp kit as your first build. It's super simple, and the the basis for many of the amps we love (I.e. you can mod it into damn near anything) .

 

[technomancer]

Awesome work, the discussion around this and FourT6and2's build threads have actually got me visiting here again and reading up on amp design

Back in the day people used to but tube kits all of the time and build stuff (heathkit) It's not for everyone, but it will make you understand why amps are so expensive. I am afraid to add up the parts alone on this. Add in business costs, employees and bills etc, gives you a new respect for people that do this for a living.

I already have an appreciation for the costs / time involved. I'm not one of the guys that complains about what amps like Friedmans cost because the parts cost is less than what they're charging. It honestly sort of amazes me seeing guys that think well parts cost is $1000 or $1500 so that's what the amp should go out the door for. It's always hilarious as those are usually also the same guys complaining they're not getting paid enough...

Not sure I'm brave enough to tackle a build but we'll see. I'd love to do something like a single channel JJ with an additional tube gain stage at some point, buy not sure I'll get the time to figure it all out. For the moment more reading up and going to tackle a couple of pedal builds to get back into practice soldering and see how it goes from there.

If I take the plunge I'd definitely start with something simpler, maybe a tweed circuit.

I suggest you do a plexi amp kit as your first build. It's super simple, and the the basis for many of the amps we love (I.e. you can mod it into damn near anything) .

Thanks for the suggestion. I haven't really looked, how does a Plexi compare to a JMP or JCM in complexity? I had thought about maybe taking a swing at a JMP then playing with a Jose mod after I had it working. (Still doing some pedals first though lol)

 

[JerEvil]

Awesome work, the discussion around this and FourT6and2's build threads have actually got me visiting here again and reading up on amp design

Back in the day people used to but tube kits all of the time and build stuff (heathkit) It's not for everyone, but it will make you understand why amps are so expensive. I am afraid to add up the parts alone on this. Add in business costs, employees and bills etc, gives you a new respect for people that do this for a living.

I already have an appreciation for the costs / time involved. I'm not one of the guys that complains about what amps like Friedmans cost because the parts cost is less than what they're charging. It honestly sort of amazes me seeing guys that think well parts cost is $1000 or $1500 so that's what the amp should go out the door for. It's always hilarious as those are usually also the same guys complaining they're not getting paid enough...

Not sure I'm brave enough to tackle a build but we'll see. I'd love to do something like a single channel JJ with an additional tube gain stage at some point, buy not sure I'll get the time to figure it all out. For the moment more reading up and going to tackle a couple of pedal builds to get back into practice soldering and see how it goes from there.

If I take the plunge I'd definitely start with something simpler, maybe a tweed circuit.

I suggest you do a plexi amp kit as your first build. It's super simple, and the the basis for many of the amps we love (I.e. you can mod it into damn near anything) .

So for someone with little to no knowledge of electronics... is this a safe build? Asking for a friend...

 

[CrazyNutz]

Awesome work, the discussion around this and FourT6and2's build threads have actually got me visiting here again and reading up on amp design

Back in the day people used to but tube kits all of the time and build stuff (heathkit) It's not for everyone, but it will make you understand why amps are so expensive. I am afraid to add up the parts alone on this. Add in business costs, employees and bills etc, gives you a new respect for people that do this for a living.

I already have an appreciation for the costs / time involved. I'm not one of the guys that complains about what amps like Friedmans cost because the parts cost is less than what they're charging. It honestly sort of amazes me seeing guys that think well parts cost is $1000 or $1500 so that's what the amp should go out the door for. It's always hilarious as those are usually also the same guys complaining they're not getting paid enough...

Not sure I'm brave enough to tackle a build but we'll see. I'd love to do something like a single channel JJ with an additional tube gain stage at some point, buy not sure I'll get the time to figure it all out. For the moment more reading up and going to tackle a couple of pedal builds to get back into practice soldering and see how it goes from there.

If I take the plunge I'd definitely start with something simpler, maybe a tweed circuit.

I suggest you do a plexi amp kit as your first build. It's super simple, and the the basis for many of the amps we love (I.e. you can mod it into damn near anything) .

So for someone with little to no knowledge of electronics... is this a safe build? Asking for a friend...

It's 100% safe, until you plug it in

Working on any tube amp can kill you, so you do have to take the proper precautions. If you are bad with precautions you may not want to tinker with tube amps.

 

[CrazyNutz]

Awesome work, the discussion around this and FourT6and2's build threads have actually got me visiting here again and reading up on amp design

Back in the day people used to but tube kits all of the time and build stuff (heathkit) It's not for everyone, but it will make you understand why amps are so expensive. I am afraid to add up the parts alone on this. Add in business costs, employees and bills etc, gives you a new respect for people that do this for a living.

I already have an appreciation for the costs / time involved. I'm not one of the guys that complains about what amps like Friedmans cost because the parts cost is less than what they're charging. It honestly sort of amazes me seeing guys that think well parts cost is $1000 or $1500 so that's what the amp should go out the door for. It's always hilarious as those are usually also the same guys complaining they're not getting paid enough...

Not sure I'm brave enough to tackle a build but we'll see. I'd love to do something like a single channel JJ with an additional tube gain stage at some point, buy not sure I'll get the time to figure it all out. For the moment more reading up and going to tackle a couple of pedal builds to get back into practice soldering and see how it goes from there.

If I take the plunge I'd definitely start with something simpler, maybe a tweed circuit.

I suggest you do a plexi amp kit as your first build. It's super simple, and the the basis for many of the amps we love (I.e. you can mod it into damn near anything) .

Thanks for the suggestion. I haven't really looked, how does a Plexi compare to a JMP or JCM in complexity? I had thought about maybe taking a swing at a JMP then playing with a Jose mod after I had it working. (Still doing some pedals first though lol)

Plexi, and the JMP are very similar. With the JMP having cascaded gain stages, and a master vol the biggest difference. That being said you can easily convert a plexi over to a JMP 800.

If JMP800 is more your style, then get one of those kits instead. It's just as simple as a plexi.

 

[LP Freak]

Awesome work, the discussion around this and FourT6and2's build threads have actually got me visiting here again and reading up on amp design

Back in the day people used to but tube kits all of the time and build stuff (heathkit) It's not for everyone, but it will make you understand why amps are so expensive. I am afraid to add up the parts alone on this. Add in business costs, employees and bills etc, gives you a new respect for people that do this for a living.

I already have an appreciation for the costs / time involved. I'm not one of the guys that complains about what amps like Friedmans cost because the parts cost is less than what they're charging. It honestly sort of amazes me seeing guys that think well parts cost is $1000 or $1500 so that's what the amp should go out the door for. It's always hilarious as those are usually also the same guys complaining they're not getting paid enough...

Not sure I'm brave enough to tackle a build but we'll see. I'd love to do something like a single channel JJ with an additional tube gain stage at some point, buy not sure I'll get the time to figure it all out. For the moment more reading up and going to tackle a couple of pedal builds to get back into practice soldering and see how it goes from there.

If I take the plunge I'd definitely start with something simpler, maybe a tweed circuit.

I suggest you do a plexi amp kit as your first build. It's super simple, and the the basis for many of the amps we love (I.e. you can mod it into damn near anything) .

So for someone with little to no knowledge of electronics... is this a safe build? Asking for a friend...

It's 100% safe, until you plug it in

Working on any tube amp can kill you, so you do have to take the proper precautions. If you are bad with precautions you may not want to tinker with tube amps.

 

[technomancer]

Awesome work, the discussion around this and FourT6and2's build threads have actually got me visiting here again and reading up on amp design

Back in the day people used to but tube kits all of the time and build stuff (heathkit) It's not for everyone, but it will make you understand why amps are so expensive. I am afraid to add up the parts alone on this. Add in business costs, employees and bills etc, gives you a new respect for people that do this for a living.

I already have an appreciation for the costs / time involved. I'm not one of the guys that complains about what amps like Friedmans cost because the parts cost is less than what they're charging. It honestly sort of amazes me seeing guys that think well parts cost is $1000 or $1500 so that's what the amp should go out the door for. It's always hilarious as those are usually also the same guys complaining they're not getting paid enough...

Not sure I'm brave enough to tackle a build but we'll see. I'd love to do something like a single channel JJ with an additional tube gain stage at some point, buy not sure I'll get the time to figure it all out. For the moment more reading up and going to tackle a couple of pedal builds to get back into practice soldering and see how it goes from there.

If I take the plunge I'd definitely start with something simpler, maybe a tweed circuit.

I suggest you do a plexi amp kit as your first build. It's super simple, and the the basis for many of the amps we love (I.e. you can mod it into damn near anything) .

Thanks for the suggestion. I haven't really looked, how does a Plexi compare to a JMP or JCM in complexity? I had thought about maybe taking a swing at a JMP then playing with a Jose mod after I had it working. (Still doing some pedals first though lol)

Plexi, and the JMP are very similar. With the JMP having cascaded gain stages, and a master vol the biggest difference. That being said you can easily convert a plexi over to a JMP 800.

If JMP800 is more your style, then get one of those kits instead. It's just as simple as a plexi.

Thanks about what I figured