Pedal Board Problem- Video Added

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Here's a quick video I did to demonstrate, bedroom volume. Sorry for the poor quality.

 
Did you try moving the wah off of the board as Dave suggested?
 
rupe":o5g321ki said:
Did you try moving the wah off of the board as Dave suggested?
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Yeah ive tried that and also they noise goes away as i unplug other pedals form the PP2. For example if i just have the Wah and Maxon plugged into the power supply and everything disconnected it is fine. Its only with everything else connected that the wah hums badly.

Its just strange, im not running alot of pedals
 
I can't tell for sure from the pics, but it looks like there might be a bunch of wiring bundled together.. both signal and power lines. That could definitely cause problems. Hard to say for sure without having it infront of me though!
 
Strange. Wonder if your PP2 is defective? There's no reason you should be having those issues unless like Dave said, the wah's circuitry is reacting to what's around it, or something's wrong internally with the power supply. That's a relatively small board, so it's not that you're running too many pedals. The wah and the flanger both freaking out like that makes me think he did something weird with the wiring or the PP2 is bad..

edit: you said one of the cables was bad upon arrival, no? Maybe some of the others are bad too?
 
it must be the power supply or something weird with the wiring, maybe some connections touching eachother, the wah sound is one thing but the flanger is nuts
 
I might take it all off, and re-do the wiring.

Seems weird though. The flanger is definitly crazy! Never heard it do that before!
 
glassjaw7":3i1uy0jl said:
Strange. Wonder if your PP2 is defective? There's no reason you should be having those issues unless like Dave said, the wah's circuitry is reacting to what's around it, or something's wrong internally with the power supply. That's a relatively small board, so it's not that you're running too many pedals. The wah and the flanger both freaking out like that makes me think he did something weird with the wiring or the PP2 is bad..

edit: you said one of the cables was bad upon arrival, no? Maybe some of the others are bad too?
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I hope not! Not cheap to replace!

I think what ill have to do it take it all off the board, trial and error to work out whats causing the problems.
 
Look guys plain and simple the wah is sitting on the power supply. It never should have been done that way. How can I say this nicely your builder is a idiot and should not be charging anyone for this. This is easy stuff. Now another thing is i can not really see how the jacks are wired. There could be problems there also. Would need shots of the side where the jacks are in and out. You probably also should have had a buffer in the front end change. Ship it to me ill fix it.
 
There is some sort of power issue with the flanger. Maybe one of the dip switches on the power supply in in the wrong directions. 4&5 that you are using should be set in the normal position.
 
RACKSYSTEMS":3f1z8txi said:
Look guys plain and simple the wah is sitting on the power supply. It never should have been done that way. How can I say this nicely your builder is a idiot and should not be charging anyone for this. This is easy stuff. Now another thing is i can not really see how the jacks are wired. There could be problems there also. Would need shots of the side where the jacks are in and out. You probably also should have had a buffer in the front end change. Ship it to me ill fix it.
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I appreciate the offer but thats not really possible for me. Shipping there and back from the UK would cost a fortune.

Thanks though.
 
Didn't know where you were.The power supply needs to go in the opposite corner. It still might hum a bit though. Best solution is to get a glab power supply. They have zero field hum and a wah could operate on top of them with no noise. Would be nice to see the jacks still though to make sure they are isolated from each other. The flanger does this stuff when there isn't proper power. Its not a current thing either.
 
Wow, VERY Cool of Dave Friedman (rack/pedal/amp guru to the stars) taking the time to post and try to help out here!!! :thumbsup:
 
Yes! Thanks a lot Dave.

I will have a look at all of this and see if i can sort it.

Ill take it all off and start again.
 
Got to love it when you get a pro responding to your question about something that they didn't even build and offer their help and suggestions.

Rig-Talk is a great place!

:)
 
Meant to add another thing but forgot. The PP2 does the 200ma for each pedal at the most, right? The Flashback needs 300ma, apparently. If you haven't already done so, try connecting that power supply that came with the Flashback into the available plug on the PP2. I had this issue with mine when I had a PP2. I would get occasional hum. Also, update the Flashback firmware if you haven't done so or your lose your presets every week. I ended up returning mine due to another issue with the switches. I switched to a voodoo labs 4x4 as I have to run a Mobius, and a couple of other higher output pedals.
 
Charvel_King":2jiy3bcg said:
glassjaw7":2jiy3bcg said:
Charvel_King":2jiy3bcg said:
The builder reckons it due to having too many FXs in a line before the amp, thats what he believes is causing the Wah hum, does sound like a ground loop or something like that.

But i thought id bought the best powersupply out there, with all isolated outputs so you dont get and hum?
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BS. You're not even running that many pedals. :confused: I've run many more than that without isolated taps and without any hum. A good builder could easily make that setup sound clean.
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Thats what i though! Its only wah, tuner, od, phase and flanger in i line. Jesus, some people have a ton of effects (10+) in a line.

I'm so bummed, for what i paid (which for me is a lot of money, but i thought it would be a good investment and save me a lot of time and troubleshooting) i'm really frustrated with it.
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Have you gone through all of the George L's and tested them? They can be kinda fickle if the cable isn't cut nice and flush. My last rack/amp rig had about 90 of them in it. I have 4-5 G.L. ends that are faulty. 2 that won't work at all but look fine, and a few that are noisy.Maybe yours were made on the same day as those. Worth looking at.
 
the flange "pumping" through even on bypass could be a ground or interference issue, or like dave said, a voltage issue.. make sure the chassis of the pedal isnt touching anything else, or any of the input/output plugs. i have had this happen with other chorus and flange pedals, but when the chassis was grounding to other grounded parts of the setup.

as far as the wah, try it with battery first as dave suggested. if that fails, i would re-route ALL your signal lines together and ALL the power supply lines together nice and neat with zip ties, and feed them all out the holes right from their respective bundle.

hope you didnt pay a lot! no offese, but that looks a mess under there, i'd never send something out the door looking like that, rush or no rush.
 
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