Peters Warhawk

[Chris6870]

Anyone familiar with this amp? They show it on their site under discontinued and I can only find one or two shaky clips on youtube. Just wondering what it's like. I heard the newer Peters and they sound incredible.

 

[GuitarGuyLP]

I have an older 20 watt head with warhawk, and harrier channels. It is a very unique sound. Not over the top high gain, but quite clear, and a great feel. I have had mine for a good while, but I might be selling it in a couple of months because I want a 5150 III mini rig because I want a change.

 

[Cflat96]

I've talked to James about the Warhawk recently. I remember almost buying one back in the day, but I wasn't ready to buy until it was discontinued. I bought a Gryphon as my first Peters amp, and I'm glad I held out after talking with James. He discontinued them for a reason. They basically went through many revisions and overhauls to become the new lineup. The amps in the lineup now are the best of what the Warhawk hoped to be. You can probably get them used for a great price, as most people want the newer models. So, they are probably a great deal if you can't afford a newer one used or new. But going from what James told me, if you want the sound of the clips you've heard of the newer models, you might not be satisfied with the Warhawk. Especially if the clips you liked were of channels that are very different from what the Warhawk was supposed to sound like.

If you're not too far out west in PA, you're welcome to check out my amps. I have a 50w Gryphon/Halo, a 100w FSM/Halo, and a 100w Halo/Vega/GNL Triple Channel due any time now. GNL is like a Gryphon/FSM hybrid of sorts. I've owned a few others, including the Hydra and the Chimera as well. Just let me know.

 

[7 Stringer]

I've talked to James about the Warhawk recently. I remember almost buying one back in the day, but I wasn't ready to buy until it was discontinued. I bought a Gryphon as my first Peters amp, and I'm glad I held out after talking with James. He discontinued them for a reason. They basically went through many revisions and overhauls to become the new lineup. The amps in the lineup now are the best of what the Warhawk hoped to be. You can probably get them used for a great price, as most people want the newer models. So, they are probably a great deal if you can't afford a newer one used or new. But going from what James told me, if you want the sound of the clips you've heard of the newer models, you might not be satisfied with the Warhawk. Especially if the clips you liked were of channels that are very different from what the Warhawk was supposed to sound like.

If you're not too far out west in PA, you're welcome to check out my amps. I have a 50w Gryphon/Halo, a 100w FSM/Halo, and a 100w Halo/Vega/GNL Triple Channel due any time now. GNL is like a Gryphon/FSM hybrid of sorts. I've owned a few others, including the Hydra and the Chimera as well. Just let me know.

Did you change your order from an FSM to GNL?

Tell me more about that GNL. I`m about a week away from my triple, or two. Soon anyways. I was torn between the Hydra,FSM and that new one (GNL).

Might be selling my Gryphon if the FSM covers it`s ground. I`m waiting till i get it in my hands before making any decisions though, the Gryphon is one hell of an amp to beat. What`s your take on the FSM vs Gryphon tone?

Chris

 

[firejack]

Did you change your order from an FSM to GNL?

Tell me more about that GNL. I`m about a week away from my triple, or two. Soon anyways. I was torn between the Hydra,FSM and that new one (GNL).

Might be selling my Gryphon if the FSM covers it`s ground. I`m waiting till i get it in my hands before making any decisions though, the Gryphon is one hell of an amp to beat. What`s your take on the FSM vs Gryphon tone?

Chris

Yo Chris. For your info...

I have something very close to the GNL channel in my Peters Dual. It started out as a Hydra (which I wasn't gelling with) and was then modded under JP's instruction to get closer to the Gryphon/FSM tonal ballpark.
Whilst it's an excellent amp in it's own right, I still miss my original Gryphon.

IMO my GNL (or FSM or whatever it is) can get close to the Gryphon's tone, but it's missing that magic that the Gryphon had.
The key differences are my GNL is a bit leaner and more aggressive. Doesn't quite have the same thick, throaty growl that the Gryphon had.
And it doesn't have the juicy low-end bloom of the Gryphon either (that's the best way I can describe it). The attack is much more pronounced on the GNL, much sharper.

The Gryphon did the lower gain, spongier tones more convincingly than the GNL does, and then I could hit the front end with a TS type boost to get it's attack to tighten up and become more percussive for harder edged metal tones. Those boosted Gryphon metal tones were righteous, and nothing I've tried since has been able to duplicate that tone. Mind you I'm still experimenting with my GNL and will have clips up soon to compare more directly (just awaiting delivery of my last few custom guitars).

Cheers

 

[Cflat96]

I've talked to James about the Warhawk recently. I remember almost buying one back in the day, but I wasn't ready to buy until it was discontinued. I bought a Gryphon as my first Peters amp, and I'm glad I held out after talking with James. He discontinued them for a reason. They basically went through many revisions and overhauls to become the new lineup. The amps in the lineup now are the best of what the Warhawk hoped to be. You can probably get them used for a great price, as most people want the newer models. So, they are probably a great deal if you can't afford a newer one used or new. But going from what James told me, if you want the sound of the clips you've heard of the newer models, you might not be satisfied with the Warhawk. Especially if the clips you liked were of channels that are very different from what the Warhawk was supposed to sound like.

If you're not too far out west in PA, you're welcome to check out my amps. I have a 50w Gryphon/Halo, a 100w FSM/Halo, and a 100w Halo/Vega/GNL Triple Channel due any time now. GNL is like a Gryphon/FSM hybrid of sorts. I've owned a few others, including the Hydra and the Chimera as well. Just let me know.

Did you change your order from an FSM to GNL?

Tell me more about that GNL. I`m about a week away from my triple, or two. Soon anyways. I was torn between the Hydra,FSM and that new one (GNL).

Might be selling my Gryphon if the FSM covers it`s ground. I`m waiting till i get it in my hands before making any decisions though, the Gryphon is one hell of an amp to beat. What`s your take on the FSM vs Gryphon tone?

Chris

The Gryphon will not sound like the FSM, and vice versa. There's some crossover and all Peters amps have a certain vibe and familiar characteristics, but they do their thing differently. The Gryphon has more of a vintage character while still being focused enough for all heavy styles of metal. It has a nice warm growl. The FSM is sort of like a Gryphon with a boost. Some of the vintage character is lost, in favor of a bit more aggression and attack.

Some people like the more vintage aspect of the Gryphon and some find it not aggressive enough. It depends on the type of player you are. I can say that if you boost the Gryphon or you only really use it at higher gain and damping settings, the FSM is probably more for you. If you like what the Gryphon does with the gain and damping a little lower, the FSM won't do that as well.

The GNL is a variant of the FSM. It's meant to make the FSM a little more "Gryphon-like". I decided on the GNL because I'm getting a Halo/Vega/GNL Triple. The Vega can cover lots of what I like about the Gryphon in the less aggressive settings, plus MUCH more. Seriously, the Vega is amazing and a real head turner. So, I figured that I'd go with the FSM or GNL to squeeze the most versatility out of it. Keep in mind that I do currently have a 50w Gryphon and a 100w FSM. If I find that my Gryphon does things that the GNL or Vega just can't do, I still have it for those times.

Once I have the triple channel, I can make comparison clips of the Vega, Gryphon, GNL, and FSM. But you're in front of me in line.

 

[spaced_ghost]

so how do those channels compare to the Chimera?

 

[7 Stringer]

Did you change your order from an FSM to GNL?

Tell me more about that GNL. I`m about a week away from my triple, or two. Soon anyways. I was torn between the Hydra,FSM and that new one (GNL).

Might be selling my Gryphon if the FSM covers it`s ground. I`m waiting till i get it in my hands before making any decisions though, the Gryphon is one hell of an amp to beat. What`s your take on the FSM vs Gryphon tone?

Chris

Yo Chris. For your info...

I have something very close to the GNL channel in my Peters Dual. It started out as a Hydra (which I wasn't gelling with) and was then modded under JP's instruction to get closer to the Gryphon/FSM tonal ballpark.
Whilst it's an excellent amp in it's own right, I still miss my original Gryphon.

IMO my GNL (or FSM or whatever it is) can get close to the Gryphon's tone, but it's missing that magic that the Gryphon had.
The key differences are my GNL is a bit leaner and more aggressive. Doesn't quite have the same thick, throaty growl that the Gryphon had.
And it doesn't have the juicy low-end bloom of the Gryphon either (that's the best way I can describe it). The attack is much more pronounced on the GNL, much sharper.

The Gryphon did the lower gain, spongier tones more convincingly than the GNL does, and then I could hit the front end with a TS type boost to get it's attack to tighten up and become more percussive for harder edged metal tones. Those boosted Gryphon metal tones were righteous, and nothing I've tried since has been able to duplicate that tone. Mind you I'm still experimenting with my GNL and will have clips up soon to compare more directly (just awaiting delivery of my last few custom guitars).

Cheers

Yo Gavin, been a while!!!!!!!

Yeah my decision to go for the FSM was James suggestion to get the sound you got with your Gryphon boosted, but without the boost. I wanted THAT tone with guitar strait in. I run my Gryphon with a colder bias, 6550`s, damping over 3/4`s up and presence quite high. So yeah, i like aggressive tones. But i loooove the mid bark the Gryphon has, i hope the FSM retains that. Anyways, i still have my Gryphon, and it ain`t goin` nowhere if i can`t get the same tones with the triple.

The Gryphon has that awesome, like you said, juicy bottom end. Great description by the way, and it`s super tight but in a loose way Weird but that`s how i perceive it.

 

[7 Stringer]

I've talked to James about the Warhawk recently. I remember almost buying one back in the day, but I wasn't ready to buy until it was discontinued. I bought a Gryphon as my first Peters amp, and I'm glad I held out after talking with James. He discontinued them for a reason. They basically went through many revisions and overhauls to become the new lineup. The amps in the lineup now are the best of what the Warhawk hoped to be. You can probably get them used for a great price, as most people want the newer models. So, they are probably a great deal if you can't afford a newer one used or new. But going from what James told me, if you want the sound of the clips you've heard of the newer models, you might not be satisfied with the Warhawk. Especially if the clips you liked were of channels that are very different from what the Warhawk was supposed to sound like.

If you're not too far out west in PA, you're welcome to check out my amps. I have a 50w Gryphon/Halo, a 100w FSM/Halo, and a 100w Halo/Vega/GNL Triple Channel due any time now. GNL is like a Gryphon/FSM hybrid of sorts. I've owned a few others, including the Hydra and the Chimera as well. Just let me know.

Did you change your order from an FSM to GNL?

Tell me more about that GNL. I`m about a week away from my triple, or two. Soon anyways. I was torn between the Hydra,FSM and that new one (GNL).

Might be selling my Gryphon if the FSM covers it`s ground. I`m waiting till i get it in my hands before making any decisions though, the Gryphon is one hell of an amp to beat. What`s your take on the FSM vs Gryphon tone?

Chris

The Gryphon will not sound like the FSM, and vice versa. There's some crossover and all Peters amps have a certain vibe and familiar characteristics, but they do their thing differently. The Gryphon has more of a vintage character while still being focused enough for all heavy styles of metal. It has a nice warm growl. The FSM is sort of like a Gryphon with a boost. Some of the vintage character is lost, in favor of a bit more aggression and attack.

Some people like the more vintage aspect of the Gryphon and some find it not aggressive enough. It depends on the type of player you are. I can say that if you boost the Gryphon or you only really use it at higher gain and damping settings, the FSM is probably more for you. If you like what the Gryphon does with the gain and damping a little lower, the FSM won't do that as well.

The GNL is a variant of the FSM. It's meant to make the FSM a little more "Gryphon-like". I decided on the GNL because I'm getting a Halo/Vega/GNL Triple. The Vega can cover lots of what I like about the Gryphon in the less aggressive settings, plus MUCH more. Seriously, the Vega is amazing and a real head turner. So, I figured that I'd go with the FSM or GNL to squeeze the most versatility out of it. Keep in mind that I do currently have a 50w Gryphon and a 100w FSM. If I find that my Gryphon does things that the GNL or Vega just can't do, I still have it for those times.

Once I have the triple channel, I can make comparison clips of the Vega, Gryphon, GNL, and FSM. But you're in front of me in line.

Might be keeping my Gryphon then, cause like i mentioned, i run the damping quite high and 6550`s colder biased so the Gryphon gets fuckin` aggressive that way so i think i might like the FSM a lot. I could tone down the Gryphon with EL 34`s and have a warmer, less "On the edge of blowing up" tone. Cause i`m pushing the Gryphon to it`s max aggressiveness.

Hell, i might sell the Gryphon and get a triple Halo/Regulus/Gryphon

Thanks for all the info man, i really appreciate your time.

Chris

 

[Cflat96]

so how do those channels compare to the Chimera?

The Chimera has the least amount of classic vibe. It's punchy as all hell. The notes jump out at you. It has a mean growl. The mids are clearer, the lows and highs are stronger, and it's sharper on the attack. It would definitely be considered the most aggressive of the bunch by most.

Hydra is HUGE sounding. Sounds like playing through two amps simultaneously. HUGE and wide mids. Very thick and rich sounding. The attack is more squared off. It has an awesome bloom to the notes.

Gryphon has the most classic vibe of the high gain Peters amps(depending on how high gain you consider the Vega). Rich, vocal, throaty growl. More of a classic plink to the attack. Has an awesome classic feel and response while still staying focused enough for heavy styles.

FSM is meant to take over where the Gryphon leaves off in terms of aggressiveness. It almost seems like a Gryphon with a boost. Even and smoothed mids. Sharper attack than the Hydra but not as sharp as Chimera. Gain characteristics seem less "saturated" than the Chimera and especially Hydra. Can have a really cool "hollow" type of crunchy sound with the boost switches off. Boosts on for a thicker, more solid tone.

Hope that helps.

 

[gtr31]

Will the website ever be updated ,with the new cosmetics and models

 

[7 Stringer]

Will the website ever be updated ,with the new cosmetics and models

Can`t wait.

I check at least once a day!!!!!!! LOL



....Seriously...

Chris

 

[FourT6and2]

Bumping an old thread. So close to ordering a Peters. Trying to decide between GNL and Hydra. Seems like the GNL came about as a modified Hydra? Whomever has owned both, speak up! What are your thoughts on both? Can you compare them to any other amps out there as a reference point?

 

[7 Stringer]

Bumping an old thread. So close to ordering a Peters. Trying to decide between GNL and Hydra. Seems like the GNL came about as a modified Hydra? Whomever has owned both, speak up! What are your thoughts on both? Can you compare them to any other amps out there as a reference point?

Go for it man, it is one helluva an amp. I'm so happy with my Halo/Vega/ FSM. I finally went with the FSM, I was really pushing the Gryphon for max aggressiveness so now I'm in between and have room for more or less, I'm in the best of both worlds.

This is my favorite amp of all time.

Chris

 

[FourT6and2]

Bumping an old thread. So close to ordering a Peters. Trying to decide between GNL and Hydra. Seems like the GNL came about as a modified Hydra? Whomever has owned both, speak up! What are your thoughts on both? Can you compare them to any other amps out there as a reference point?

Go for it man, it is one helluva an amp. I'm so happy with my Halo/Vega/ FSM. I finally went with the FSM, I was really pushing the Gryphon for max aggressiveness so now I'm in between and have room for more or less, I'm in the best of both worlds.

This is my favorite amp of all time.

Chris

It's a hard decision.

This is one of the best sounds I've heard: http://tonefinder.com/index.php?section=id&value=7649

Although it's a Gryphon that's been quad-tracked with two different cabs.

I love the bark and growl. And that there's no high-end fizz. But I'm wondering if it's pushing the upper limits of what the Gryphon can do? Sometimes I want something more saturated and with a little more upper mid snarl. James suggested either the GNL or Hydra. But I can't decide.

 

[7 Stringer]

Bumping an old thread. So close to ordering a Peters. Trying to decide between GNL and Hydra. Seems like the GNL came about as a modified Hydra? Whomever has owned both, speak up! What are your thoughts on both? Can you compare them to any other amps out there as a reference point?

Go for it man, it is one helluva an amp. I'm so happy with my Halo/Vega/ FSM. I finally went with the FSM, I was really pushing the Gryphon for max aggressiveness so now I'm in between and have room for more or less, I'm in the best of both worlds.

This is my favorite amp of all time.

Chris

It's a hard decision.

This is one of the best sounds I've heard: http://tonefinder.com/index.php?section=id&value=7649

Although it's a Gryphon that's been quad-tracked with two different cabs.

I love the bark and growl. And that there's no high-end fizz. But I'm wondering if it's pushing the upper limits of what the Gryphon can do? Sometimes I want something more saturated and with a little more upper mid snarl. James suggested either the GNL or Hydra. But I can't decide.

I got no fizz in my amp and it still has that mid Bark, that's what I didn't want to loose from the gryphon. Don't forget that the newer Gryphon is more aggressive, does that clip feature an older Gryphon or the later one? That might be a factor to consider. I had mine at James place when I first got it and he asked me if I wanted it updated, said yes and it was even better when I got it.

Me I don't want to much saturation, I like crunch.

Chris

 

[FourT6and2]

Not sure what version is in that clip above. But if your FSM has the same thing going on then I'm sure the other models do as well. But from clips I've heard, the Gryphon is unique in its low-mid growl.

 

[Invidious]

There's a guy in a local band here with a Warhawk, I will get a bunch of info on it from him and post back. I believe I am seeing his band next week.

 

[FourT6and2]

There's a guy in a local band here with a Warhawk, I will get a bunch of info on it from him and post back. I believe I am seeing his band next week.

That's cool, thanks. I don't think Peters even makes the Warhawk anymore, though.