Power amp, what are my options?

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Bob Savage":1z6b4ct6 said:
Guys, thanks for all the input!

Not sure what my budget is, because I don't even have a MIDI footswitch for the thing. I'm probably getting ahead of myself here because the switch is gonna cost some coin too. Urgh...

Greazygeo":1z6b4ct6 said:
The old Tubeworks Mosvalve is where I'd go if I couldn't spring for a VHT......

Like this one? https://media.photobucket.com/image/tube ... 61ae_1.jpg
Yep that's the one. They are really nice and plenty of power.
 
I have a Peavey Classic 50/50 power amp that I would sell if interested Bob.
 
Robotechnology":1r6a9lr3 said:
I have a Peavey Classic 50/50 power amp that I would sell if interested Bob.

My VHT 2/50/2 got fried by some bad power at a venue and I found a Peavey Classic 50/50 on Craigslist for $125 to use as a backup until I could get the VHT fixed. It sounds really good with my Randall RM4 preamp rack system. Not as much punch and balls as the VHT but very musical and pleasant in the mids and highs. Also does not go to shit when it's cranked, just doesn't have the body and punch of the VHT. At medium/lower volumes it sounds very close to the VHT. Best $ I've spent in a long time. If you are determined to go tube I think you should consider the Peavey.
 
I had one of the Peavy EL-84 power amps back in the 90's it was not that bad for the money. My brother gave it to me for some money he owed me. I was going to sell it right away, but it sounded alright so I had it around till it stole ...
 
I've been using the Carvin all tube TS-100 for a year and a half now with my Ultra. It's a great poweramp and LOUD! I gig an average of 4 times a month as well as practice a few days a week and it's been flawless. I run it stereo through a Marshall MC212 cab I loaded with V-30s. Killer, just killer. Hell for 500 bucks ya can't beat it.
 
Bob, Ive been using a Carvin DCM600 SS poweramp with great success. I bought it for 200 which is about the average in great condition. Its Bridgeable to mono and can get pretty loud but to be honest, you dont want to go any lower on the wattage rating with a SS amp. I used a Carvin DCM300 and it just didnt cut it in terms of headroom. I think a tube power section is the way to go but ultimately, if you get a good SS amp like the carvin and tweak the parameters in the AF right, the difference is not going to be huge between it and its tube counterpart, IMHO...

Kage
 
Just my opinion only...

I had a mosvalve. It was ok, but the Peavey Classic poweramps I had that weren't a lot more crushed it. If you're going into a guitar cab, I wouldn't use anything but a tube power section with the axe. I also had a Marshall valvestate 80/80 - same story, a decent tube poweramp just adds a lot to the tone.

Bob, is there any compelling reason for you to have a poweramp specifically for the axe? Why not save a few bucks and just run the output into the fx return of one of your tube heads? I ran the out of my axe into the return of a mesa dual recto rackmount and I was splitting atoms and inducing labor in women who were not only hundreds of feet away but weren't even pregnant yet!

If you do have to get a power amp, for low $ I'd go Peavey all the way. I actually preferred the Peavey 60/60 over the Mesa 50/50 I had at the time, and the Peavey was under $300.

I own a Randall RT 2/50 which is an awesome poweramp, but they are quite a bit more than the Peaveys. The Peavey stuff sounds great and while it isn't a VHT, will sound MUCH better than a solid state poweramp. I think on the Axe if you are going with a full range speaker solution, the solid state stuff makes sense... but if you are going into a guitar cab, Toobs all the way.

I don't have any personal experience, but Carvin makes a tube poweramp that might bear investigation also.

Pete
 
You could just use the power stage of your Bogner Shiva. That's what I did on a gig recently and it sounded amazing.

I used the FX return, not the power amp in, though.
 
Gainzilla":11ofwnur said:
Its Bridgeable to mono and can get pretty loud but to be honest, you dont want to go any lower on the wattage rating with a SS amp.

Kage
The problem is the way they rate them. I have not looked at that exact one, but most of their stuff puts out the max power @ 2 ohm bridged. They also may take the wattage rating from a higher freq that puts less strain on the amp. If that is "600" watts @ 2 ohms, thru a 16 ohm cab you'll have alot less. What Carvin calls "600" watts is beyond me....they don't seem to put out anywhere near that IME......
 
Oh, one other thing... if you need a midi footswitch to just change patches, the rolls midibuddy is great. But if you want to be able to send CC changes (turn fx off/on, tap tempo, etc) then a great affordable board would be the Rocktron midi-mate. Can get them for under $100 and they are much nicer than the behringers. You'll still need expression pedals if you do the wah or volume thing, but with the right cable you can even use an actual volume pedal. I've used an ernie ball jr with great success, plus it feels a lot better than most of the plastic expression pedals.

Pete
 
Greazygeo":2q60vx2d said:
Gainzilla":2q60vx2d said:
Its Bridgeable to mono and can get pretty loud but to be honest, you dont want to go any lower on the wattage rating with a SS amp.

Kage
The problem is the way they rate them. I have not looked at that exact one, but most of their stuff puts out the max power @ 2 ohm bridged. They also may take the wattage rating from a higher freq that puts less strain on the amp. If that is "600" watts @ 2 ohms, thru a 16 ohm cab you'll have alot less. What Carvin calls "600" watts is beyond me....they don't seem to put out anywhere near that IME......
Ive found that thats the same for most SS power amps George.
 
Hey bob... I got a Peavey classic 120 with fresh new 6550s in it. For $350
 
Bob Savage":2807scor said:
Guys, thanks for all the input!

Not sure what my budget is, because I don't even have a MIDI footswitch for the thing. I'm probably getting ahead of myself here because the switch is gonna cost some coin too. Urgh...
If you wait for Fractal to get their foot controller out I'll sell ya my Ground Control Pro cheap...

Steve
 
Robotechnology":2wf9mfkj said:
I have a Peavey Classic 50/50 power amp that I would sell if interested Bob.

Hey Ivan! Depending on what you're wanting for it, I'm interested.

ratkent":2wf9mfkj said:
Robotechnology":2wf9mfkj said:
I have a Peavey Classic 50/50 power amp that I would sell if interested Bob.

My VHT 2/50/2 got fried by some bad power at a venue and I found a Peavey Classic 50/50 on Craigslist for $125 to use as a backup until I could get the VHT fixed.

Dang man, if I could find the 50/50 for $125 I'd have it now! I'll give you $150 for it. :D

stratotone":2wf9mfkj said:
Bob, is there any compelling reason for you to have a poweramp specifically for the axe? Why not save a few bucks and just run the output into the fx return of one of your tube heads?

Mostly laziness. I figure if I have to bring an amp anyway, I'll just use the amp.

stephen sawall":2wf9mfkj said:
Edit see other thread ?

Other thread? I'll look...

sah5150":2wf9mfkj said:
If you wait for Fractal to get their foot controller out I'll sell ya my Ground Control Pro cheap...

Steve

I just might take you up on that one!
 
Sorry Bob ~ I posted a Q to Jeff that I moved to Egnator power amp thread or what ever it's called. I am to stupid or lazy to figure out how to delete .....

Sincerely your friend (or what ever I am)

stephen sawall
 
psychodave":ahfbi6t7 said:
Boogie Simul-Satellite.

Mctallica1 has one and the tone was cruching with the AXE-FX.



This. :yes:


You can thank me later ;)
 
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