Exo-metal
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Let's see it Jeremy, I love my SG++ it plain kills. It is just even and in class A or AB surprisingly I no preference. It packs a punch that no one would believe.
EXPcustom":2fh0ll85 said:I remember saying that DRG long heads were going for 5k or more with export transformer and everyone attacked me saying I was out of my mind on that price... now everyone agrees that a DRG non long head is worth 4-5k?
You can find a non long head fully loaded DRG for 3-4k all day but you have to be patient. Loaded long head, yes different story easy 5k+.
psychodave":ap4js7fg said:On a side note, a friend of mine owned every 2C+, ++ available. Coli’s, long head, short head, etc. He now owns a Mark III++ with 105 transformer and pentode/triode switch and few other mods. His Mark III sounded every bit as good as the 2C+’s, and personally feel it sounded better in most aspects.
Wizard of Ozz":m14q7v8w said:psychodave":m14q7v8w said:On a side note, a friend of mine owned every 2C+, ++ available. Coli’s, long head, short head, etc. He now owns a Mark III++ with 105 transformer and pentode/triode switch and few other mods. His Mark III sounded every bit as good as the 2C+’s, and personally feel it sounded better in most aspects.
There you go again with your common-sensical level headed talk again. Stop! A MKIII better than the mythical MKIIC+... HERESY I SAY!
Well maybe that explains why I own bunch more modified MKIIIs and only 2 MKIIC++ amps... hmmm...
EXPcustom":20d9tfhk said:I remember saying that DRG long heads were going for 5k or more with export transformer and everyone attacked me saying I was out of my mind on that price... now everyone agrees that a DRG non long head is worth 4-5k?
You can find a non long head fully loaded DRG for 3-4k all day but you have to be patient. Loaded long head, yes different story easy 5k+.
From my experience the red, blue, or purple stripe aren’t gonna cut it you’re looking for what the iic+ does tonally (even with the c+ mod), but they’re still very cool amps in other ways like the blue’s bite and tightness compared to a c+. Just a bit different flavors to the iic+Racerxrated":2t8kun1x said:Wizard of Ozz":2t8kun1x said:psychodave":2t8kun1x said:On a side note, a friend of mine owned every 2C+, ++ available. Coli’s, long head, short head, etc. He now owns a Mark III++ with 105 transformer and pentode/triode switch and few other mods. His Mark III sounded every bit as good as the 2C+’s, and personally feel it sounded better in most aspects.
There you go again with your common-sensical level headed talk again. Stop! A MKIII better than the mythical MKIIC+... HERESY I SAY!
Well maybe that explains why I own bunch more modified MKIIIs and only 2 MKIIC++ amps... hmmm...
Sure, sun shines on a dog's ass every once in a while. I've owned 2 Mark IIIs(Purple, Red), 3 2B Coliseums(one with a loop mod) and the difference in tone between ALL those amps vs ANY of the C+s I've owned was huge. Like taking a blanket off the speakers huge. I'm sure there are some gems out there in non 2C+ land but every one of the 4 C+s I've owned would destroy any of the others in EVERY category. Not even close.
Now, Braintheory has a no stripe Mark III Coliseum that he likes more than his HRG C+. Of course, all the Coliseum power sections are pretty much identical from inception according to Mike B, with some filtering changes.
Btw, the 2 Mk IIIs I owned were Simulclass and loaded with 415s.
Go figure.
GJgo":hsktv3t1 said:Ok pricing gurus. So I got this SR IIC+ back from Mesa as mentioned & it rips. Tight as a frog's ass, fast as a Ferrari and very minimal mid hump compared to most Marks, almost like Mike tweaked something for me. There are a lot of differences even amp to amp, and I can tell you this is a good one. So what would you guys put the value at? Do you add value for the fact that it just got a fresh Mike B. service? Do you add value because someone who has owned a whole bunch of these says "this is a really good one"?
psychodave":1lvisrt9 said:GJgo":1lvisrt9 said:Ok pricing gurus. So I got this SR IIC+ back from Mesa as mentioned & it rips. Tight as a frog's ass, fast as a Ferrari and very minimal mid hump compared to most Marks, almost like Mike tweaked something for me. There are a lot of differences even amp to amp, and I can tell you this is a good one. So what would you guys put the value at? Do you add value for the fact that it just got a fresh Mike B. service? Do you add value because someone who has owned a whole bunch of these says "this is a really good one"?
I always add a little to the value when the amp has been properly serviced... especially by Mesa Boogie and the same guy that’s been doing it for decades. The amp is 95% like new.