Stramm8
Active member
So ESP dudes; is this a good deal?? Looks cool.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/msg/3667478061.html
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/msg/3667478061.html
Chubtone
Well-known member
Good guitar - great price
Stramm8
Active member
Chubtone":20qlo3me said:
Any idea what year it is?? It appears to have a "new york" stamp on the neck plate. I don't know anything about ESPs but do you think this could have been one sold out of the old 48th street shop??
bigdaddyd
New member
It's ok. the nyc shop did custom guitars and artist guitars but there werent wny real USA ESP guitars. That bridge sucks ass as well. I hated the one that came on my old ESP Mirage Custom. I think this is a parts guitar.
Qweklain
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Wrong. After the 48th Shop closed the doors in 92', they moved to California, and they produced guitars until 01' or 02' when all USA ESP production stopped. The 48th Branded guitars are basically USA ESPs, but because they were crafted in the shop, they got branded 48th Street Custom. Also, when they started making guitars after they moved to California (two different locations over the years), the real USA ESPs were all either completely custom, or were very limited runs.bigdaddyd":148f54bn said:
Also that bridge (hard to tell from the pic) is a Synclair, which is equivalent to any Floyd Rose, just looks different. The arm is a bit of a pain though as it likes to be loose, which causes wiggle before you actually start dropping/raising pitch.
cardinal
Well-known member
I don't know much about their history or whatever bridge that is, but in my experience, old ESP guitars 1) ain't worth too much, so that asking price is about right but you should try to talk him down and 2) are killer guitars that are way under valued.
bigdaddyd
New member
Qweklain":3xgwu16a said:
True, but that is the old style Jackson headstock. Also the screws that held the strings on the bridge and locked them were notorious for stripping and being flawed and were one of the reasons they changed the designed. It is a shit design. Even the guys at the 48th st shop hated it. Also, I meant there weren't usa production guitars at the time and there werent. Esp,is and was a japanese company. They had special artist facility and custom shop here.
You may be right, but I remember it like this guy. I grew up hanging it out the 48th street shop and got to play Vernon's guitars, especially the one he played in the "Glamour Boys" video. When the shit bridge on my Mirage Custom broke, I had to bring it there to have them fix it. That is when they had to hunt down the last screw they had in the shop that day for it and was when I heard their feeling on that particular bridge. It is also when I got to play that guitar.
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/archive/index.php/t-802484.html
Qweklain
Well-known member
Ahh, well I only have experience with three or four Synclair bridges and I have never had any issues with any of them at all with the exception of the arm being wiggly and not tight when screwed in (please, no jokes!bigdaddyd":3afzajdr said:
). So I guess I have never heard the hate toward the bridge and could only bank on my personal experience with it.It depends how you look at the 48th Custom guitars I guess. I look at them as they were built here from scratch, using ESP hardware, by ESP builders, so essentially USA ESPs. That shop was opened initially because George Lynch was recently signed on at that time and they wanted to have the ability to service artists in the states rather than always over-seas contact.
As to being on topic with this thread, I would say $400 is fair looking at its condition. Play it, and if it rocks, offer $300 and see if he/she bites. There were a lot of guitars that were shipped to the 48th shop in parts and were only assembled there, hence the NY neck-plate.
Mailman1971
Moderator
Thats a great price on that guitar. 
bigdaddyd
New member
True dat. Pretty hard to go wrong on $400 for any guitar.
